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The NATO thing'$ a complete non-$tarter. Putin would be nut$ to accept a thing like that,
I think that the only way to get Putin to accept the ongoing existence of Ukraine will be to force Russia into such a state of economic turmoil that continuing the war becomes economically impractical.

Hitherto the west has not applied sanctions as strictly or severely as it could have done. Belatedly it is moving towards doing that with the threat of secondary sanctions on financial institutions (banks facilitating trade with Russia etc). I imagine that the recent addition of Gazprombank to the institutions sanctioned will be a body blow to Russia financially and economically.

Russia has used Gazprombank as a conduit to buy military equipment for the war in Ukraine, as well as to pay soldiers and compensate the families of those killed in action, according to the US. “This sweeping action will make it harder for the Kremlin to evade US sanctions and fund and equip its military,” US Treasury secretary Janet Yellen said.


Was Gazprombank the last big back door that Russia had into the international financial system? If it was, the Russian economy, military and industry can look forward to a hell of a bumpy ride.

And that is without the west closing the back doors being used to ship sanctioned goods to Russia via various countries...

I don't think that Putin is really in a position to decide what security guarantees will be allowed to Ukraine after a ceasefire.
 
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Footage of a strike by a Russian 300 mm Tornado-S MLRS rocket with a cluster warhead near the village of Zhuravka in Ukraine's Kharkiv region. The forest area reportedly housed a temporary deployment point for the Ukrainian Ptahi Madyara unit, which specializes in working with drones. The strike was allegedly carried out by a Russian 9M55K rocket with a cluster warhead containing 72 warheads containing 360 and 96 falcons, weighing from 0.75 to 4.5 grams.

 

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Footage has been published of the aftermath of a strike by a Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missile on a Ukrainian underground command post in the Chasov Yar area. The strike by the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missile was carried out on April 11, 2022, presumably by a MiG-31K aircraft.

 

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Of cour$e that'$ the goal, $pitfire, ruin Ru$$ia economically to the point even Putin ha$ to back off. In theory. Thing i$, when'$ that worked out again? They're doing fine.

Only way the $anction$ actually work i$ if literally everyone of con$equence i$ on-board, and here they're not. A Ru$$ia that'$ $till trading with India, Paki$tan, China and Brazil alone i$ a Ru$$ia that'$ going to be ju$t fine, $anction$ & banking-wi$e. Let alone all the other countrie$ $till dealing with them, $outh Africa, half the African & $outh American continent$...

Not ending the war, not ever. Maaaaaaybe China cutting them off, but there'$ not even no $ign of that here, there'$ genuinely no hope for that ever happening.

Ukraine a$ an entity will $urvive thi$ thing, ju$t 20-30% tinier, and ab$olutely under no circum$tance$ a$ part of NATO. Ru$$ia'$ "give" here will probably be turning a blind eye to all the foreign contracting coming in to rebuild Ukraine, not much more. It'$ awful, but it i$ what it i$, Zelen$ky know$ it'$ done by now. Thi$ guy did *not* want to leave wiggle-room publically for Ukraine giving up territory, that'$ an avoid-at-all-co$t$ $ituation. Beginning of the end here.
 

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I've been away for a few days, so forgive me if anyone the following has been posted, but here is the latest on Western aid for Ukraine.

USA 🇺🇸 is expected to announce a new $750 million usd PDA package for Ukraine on Monday. Full details of the package will be disclosed in the next 24 hours.


The European Union 🇪🇺 will send Ukraine $4.5 Billion usd worth of macro financial funding in December. The two parties have also agreed that Ukraine will receive $1.6 Billion usd per month throughout 2025 worth of funding from the EU's portion of the $50 Billion usd loan from the G7.


Norway 🇳🇴 has agreed to increase it's military funding for Ukraine to $3.2 Billion usd in 2025. Previously, Norway had planned to provide Ukraine with $1.4 Billion usd worth of funding. The majority of Norway's funding will be used to procure NASAMs air defense systems and interceptors, artillery shells procured outside of the EU and to expand Ukraine's domestic military infrastructure.

 

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I've been away for a few days, so forgive me if anyone the following has been posted, but here is the latest on Western aid for Ukraine.

USA 🇺🇸 is expected to announce a new $750 million usd PDA package for Ukraine on Monday. Full details of the package will be disclosed in the next 24 hours.


The European Union 🇪🇺 will send Ukraine $4.5 Billion usd worth of macro financial funding in December. The two parties have also agreed that Ukraine will receive $1.6 Billion usd per month throughout 2025 worth of funding from the EU's portion of the $50 Billion usd loan from the G7.


Norway 🇳🇴 has agreed to increase it's military funding for Ukraine to $3.2 Billion usd in 2025. Previously, Norway had planned to provide Ukraine with $1.4 Billion usd worth of funding. The majority of Norway's funding will be used to procure NASAMs air defense systems and interceptors, artillery shells procured outside of the EU and to expand Ukraine's domestic military infrastructure.

What USA do and say to Ukraine is, just block the Russian strikes, don’t punch back. With these tactics, Ukraine can’t win. What Ukraine needs, is deep strike capabilities.
 

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Are the figures published by official Russian sources regarding Russian finances and the Russian economy accurate? This article suggests they are not.


Since the west has not been prepared to fully support Ukraine militarily (delays on supplying weapons systems, restrictions on their use), the alternative way of stopping Russia's aggression is through economic warfare. Is the west underestimating how effective this has been?

The recent big slide in the value of the ruble, allowed by Russia in order to boost the ruble value of hydrocarbon sales, will soon be reflected in rising prices in the shops for imported goods. This should boost inflation, something that the Bank of Russia has been tasked to reduce.

Whatever the true inflation rate is, it is likely much higher than the published rate and should now rise further.
 

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