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The NATO thing'$ a complete non-$tarter. Putin would be nut$ to accept a thing like that,
I think that the only way to get Putin to accept the ongoing existence of Ukraine will be to force Russia into such a state of economic turmoil that continuing the war becomes economically impractical.

Hitherto the west has not applied sanctions as strictly or severely as it could have done. Belatedly it is moving towards doing that with the threat of secondary sanctions on financial institutions (banks facilitating trade with Russia etc). I imagine that the recent addition of Gazprombank to the institutions sanctioned will be a body blow to Russia financially and economically.

Russia has used Gazprombank as a conduit to buy military equipment for the war in Ukraine, as well as to pay soldiers and compensate the families of those killed in action, according to the US. “This sweeping action will make it harder for the Kremlin to evade US sanctions and fund and equip its military,” US Treasury secretary Janet Yellen said.


Was Gazprombank the last big back door that Russia had into the international financial system? If it was, the Russian economy, military and industry can look forward to a hell of a bumpy ride.

And that is without the west closing the back doors being used to ship sanctioned goods to Russia via various countries...

I don't think that Putin is really in a position to decide what security guarantees will be allowed to Ukraine after a ceasefire.
 
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Footage of a strike by a Russian 300 mm Tornado-S MLRS rocket with a cluster warhead near the village of Zhuravka in Ukraine's Kharkiv region. The forest area reportedly housed a temporary deployment point for the Ukrainian Ptahi Madyara unit, which specializes in working with drones. The strike was allegedly carried out by a Russian 9M55K rocket with a cluster warhead containing 72 warheads containing 360 and 96 falcons, weighing from 0.75 to 4.5 grams.

 

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Footage has been published of the aftermath of a strike by a Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missile on a Ukrainian underground command post in the Chasov Yar area. The strike by the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missile was carried out on April 11, 2022, presumably by a MiG-31K aircraft.

 
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Of cour$e that'$ the goal, $pitfire, ruin Ru$$ia economically to the point even Putin ha$ to back off. In theory. Thing i$, when'$ that worked out again? They're doing fine.

Only way the $anction$ actually work i$ if literally everyone of con$equence i$ on-board, and here they're not. A Ru$$ia that'$ $till trading with India, Paki$tan, China and Brazil alone i$ a Ru$$ia that'$ going to be ju$t fine, $anction$ & banking-wi$e. Let alone all the other countrie$ $till dealing with them, $outh Africa, half the African & $outh American continent$...

Not ending the war, not ever. Maaaaaaybe China cutting them off, but there'$ not even no $ign of that here, there'$ genuinely no hope for that ever happening.

Ukraine a$ an entity will $urvive thi$ thing, ju$t 20-30% tinier, and ab$olutely under no circum$tance$ a$ part of NATO. Ru$$ia'$ "give" here will probably be turning a blind eye to all the foreign contracting coming in to rebuild Ukraine, not much more. It'$ awful, but it i$ what it i$, Zelen$ky know$ it'$ done by now. Thi$ guy did *not* want to leave wiggle-room publically for Ukraine giving up territory, that'$ an avoid-at-all-co$t$ $ituation. Beginning of the end here.
 

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I've been away for a few days, so forgive me if anyone the following has been posted, but here is the latest on Western aid for Ukraine.

USA 🇺🇸 is expected to announce a new $750 million usd PDA package for Ukraine on Monday. Full details of the package will be disclosed in the next 24 hours.


The European Union 🇪🇺 will send Ukraine $4.5 Billion usd worth of macro financial funding in December. The two parties have also agreed that Ukraine will receive $1.6 Billion usd per month throughout 2025 worth of funding from the EU's portion of the $50 Billion usd loan from the G7.


Norway 🇳🇴 has agreed to increase it's military funding for Ukraine to $3.2 Billion usd in 2025. Previously, Norway had planned to provide Ukraine with $1.4 Billion usd worth of funding. The majority of Norway's funding will be used to procure NASAMs air defense systems and interceptors, artillery shells procured outside of the EU and to expand Ukraine's domestic military infrastructure.

 

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I've been away for a few days, so forgive me if anyone the following has been posted, but here is the latest on Western aid for Ukraine.

USA 🇺🇸 is expected to announce a new $750 million usd PDA package for Ukraine on Monday. Full details of the package will be disclosed in the next 24 hours.


The European Union 🇪🇺 will send Ukraine $4.5 Billion usd worth of macro financial funding in December. The two parties have also agreed that Ukraine will receive $1.6 Billion usd per month throughout 2025 worth of funding from the EU's portion of the $50 Billion usd loan from the G7.


Norway 🇳🇴 has agreed to increase it's military funding for Ukraine to $3.2 Billion usd in 2025. Previously, Norway had planned to provide Ukraine with $1.4 Billion usd worth of funding. The majority of Norway's funding will be used to procure NASAMs air defense systems and interceptors, artillery shells procured outside of the EU and to expand Ukraine's domestic military infrastructure.

What USA do and say to Ukraine is, just block the Russian strikes, don’t punch back. With these tactics, Ukraine can’t win. What Ukraine needs, is deep strike capabilities.
 

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Are the figures published by official Russian sources regarding Russian finances and the Russian economy accurate? This article suggests they are not.


Since the west has not been prepared to fully support Ukraine militarily (delays on supplying weapons systems, restrictions on their use), the alternative way of stopping Russia's aggression is through economic warfare. Is the west underestimating how effective this has been?

The recent big slide in the value of the ruble, allowed by Russia in order to boost the ruble value of hydrocarbon sales, will soon be reflected in rising prices in the shops for imported goods. This should boost inflation, something that the Bank of Russia has been tasked to reduce.

Whatever the true inflation rate is, it is likely much higher than the published rate and should now rise further.
 

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Major news in regards to their economy. Maybe they will still give gas to the euros?
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Interested in the ruble after those gas sales start happening.
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A strike by a Russian RBK-500 SHOAB 0.5 cluster bomb. The RBK-500 SHOAB-0.5 bomb with the UMPK kit was dropped by a Su-34 frontline fighter-bomber. The video was filmed near Orekhov in the Zaporizhia region of Ukraine. The RBK-500 SHOAB-0.5 bombs were accepted into service in 1969

 

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As expected, USA 🇺🇸 announced a new military aid package for Ukraine today, funded by PDA and valued at $725 million usd. Contents of the package include the following:

- AIM-9M/X missiles (NASAMS)
- AIM-120 AMRAAM Missiles (NASAMS)
- Stinger Air Defense Missiles
- Vampire Counter UAS Systems
- GMLRS / ATACMS (HIMARS)
- 155mm Artillery Shells
- 105mm Artillery Shells
- Attacks Drones (undisclosed type)
- TOW Missiles (Bradleys)
- Javelin Anti-Armor Missiles
- AT-4 Anti-Armor Rockets
- Anti-Personnel Land Mines
- Small Arms and Ammunition
- Demolition Equipment and Explosives
- Spare Parts, Training and Other Equipment.

Germany 🇩🇪 also announced a new military aid package for Ukraine today, valued at $685 million usd. The package will be delivered throughout December and will consist of the following:

- 2 IRIS-T Air Defense Systems
- 10 Leopard 1 MBTs
- Armored Vehicles
- Kamikaze Drones


 
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The first footage of the use of the Russian Gibka-S air defense system in Ukraine. For a long time, there was no information about the Gibka-S air defense system. The video shows an interview with an air defense crew and the interception of a Ukrainian heavy agricultural drone of the Baba Yaga type, which is used for military purposes, including by the Russian army.


The second video contains technical information on the Russian air defense system "Gibka-S".

 

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More footage has been published of the attack of the Russian FPV drone "Prince Vandal Novgorodsky" on the Ukrainian tank "Leopard-2A6", made in Germany. The Leopard 2A6 tank began to be produced in Germany in 1997. Ukraine received 18 Leopard 2A6 tanks from Germany and 3 tanks from Portugal. According to some estimates, 11 Leopard-2A6 tanks have been destroyed so far. In Ukraine, the Leopard-2A6 tank was modified by installing Soviet dynamic protection "Kontakt-1". The video was filmed in the Kursk region of Russia near the village of Darino. The Leopard 2A6 tank was attacked by several Vandal drones, the crew abandoned the damaged tank

 

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Incident in the Baltic Sea: Russian ship crew shot during Bundeswehr operation

An incident occurred between a Bundeswehr helicopter and a Russian ship in the Baltic Sea last week. It is said that the Russian crew fired with signal ammunition.


December 4, 2024, 3:16 p.m

An incident occurred between a Bundeswehr helicopter and a Russian ship in the Baltic Sea. The German Press Agency in Brussels learned that the crew of the Russian ship fired with signal ammunition. The helicopter was on its way to carry out reconnaissance.

Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) had previously briefly mentioned the incident on the sidelines of a NATO meeting in Brussels. However, she did not give any details. According to dpa information, it happened last week.

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The use of signal ammunition is actually only common in emergency situations. Baerbock had pointed out that there are always ships in the Baltic Sea that are involved in evading sanctions due to the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine.

As an example, Baerbock cited the destruction of cables, the disruption of the global positioning system GPS and the incident with the German Bundeswehr helicopter and the tanker.

Ministry of Defense: act calmly and de-escalate

A spokesman for the German Ministry of Defense did not want to comment on the specific case. Violations of the rules at sea or in the air happen from time to time. “And then it’s about the Navy or the Air Force reacting prudently and having a de-escalating effect,” he said in response to a question at the Berlin government press conference.

Suspicion also applies to Chinese ships

Most recently, damage to two fiber optic cables in the Baltic Sea occurred within a short period of time in November. This involved a cable that runs between Sweden and Lithuania and one between Finland and Germany. The cause of this is still unclear in both cases. Swedish authorities are investigating possible sabotage.

The investigators' focus is on a Chinese ship called "Yi Peng 3", which is said to have passed the affected areas of the cables at the time in question. Previously, a gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia was severely damaged last year.


After the damage to communication cables in the Baltic Sea, Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk recently proposed joint surveillance of the sea by the navies of the western states.

In addition to Russia, China, North Korea and Iran in particular are accused of wanting to weaken states in Europe with so-called hybrid attacks. This umbrella term encompasses actions that state or non-state actors use to harm other countries without waging open war. As a rule, they are difficult or impossible to assign to a specific author. (dpa)


 
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And yet, here they are, prevailing/winning. It is what it is man. We kicked ass in '91 in Iraq in modified dune buggies too, footage of a few Ivans on a crappy motorbike hardly negates all the high-end stuff they're also working with.

In related news, bigwig British military guy says there are more Ukrainian amputees/cripples from this war currently than the entirety of the British armed forces as of today. Between that and the 100 000 Ukes legally charged with desertion (Ukraine saying this, not the Roosks), like what, an 8th of their army or something, they're royally fuckethed. Zelensky can't drop the draft age to 18 like Biden's asking, it'd be suicide locally/in-country for him, they're entirely out of men by now and it's gone south to the point you can expect him talking/making concessions to Putes right after January, bet on it. It's over, finito.
 

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And yet, here they are, prevailing/winning. It is what it is man. We kicked ass in '91 in Iraq in modified dune buggies too, footage of a few Ivans on a crappy motorbike hardly negates all the high-end stuff they're also working with.

In related news, bigwig British military guy says there are more Ukrainian amputees/cripples from this war currently than the entirety of the British armed forces as of today. Between that and the 100 000 Ukes legally charged with desertion (Ukraine saying this, not the Roosks), like what, an 8th of their army or something, they're royally fuckethed. Zelensky can't drop the draft age to 18 like Biden's asking, it'd be suicide locally/in-country for him, they're entirely out of men by now and it's gone south to the point you can expect him talking/making concessions to Putes right after January, bet on it. It's over, finito.
They still control much less they controlled in 2022.

Russian super power is their total disregard about their losses. They can easily sacrifice over 20K to take tiny town.

This is percent of Ukraine territories captured by Russia:

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What are you even talking about? The Russians have gained more territory in the last month than they have in the past, like, 12. It's escalating if anything.

Between Zelensky's (bet your ass reluctant) change in public posture and the reality-shift on the ground, this is going Putin's way, even if you don't factor in the incoming US presidential shift. You sound like "Biden's completely cognitively okay, and fit to contest the election!" three months ago. Sounds good for morale, not the actual reality though. They're done. It's just a matter of how the "they're done" pans out, and over how long.
 

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