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Footage of a Russian Iskander-M ballistic missile striking a Ukrainian Buk-M1 air defense system. The video was filmed near the village of Tokari, Sumy region of Ukraine. The Buk-M1 air defense system, together with a pickup truck, was moving to a camouflaged position in a forest belt.

The Buk-M1 air defense system was adopted by the USSR in 1983. As of 2024, Ukraine had about 50 Buk-M1 air defense systems, and there may have been supplies from other countries.

A Russian drone tracked the entire route of the Buk-M1 air defense system. After that, the air defense was hit by an Iskander-M missile with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead. The Iskander missile exploded nearby, presumably damaging the Buk-M1 air defense system.

 

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The shitty european character in a nutshell. How about you Poles stop being cowards and intervene to help Ukraine directly, since you know if they take Ukraine you are 100% next.

For all the failings of the Turks, war doesn't worry us. If it comes it comes.
I can find more contradictory statements from Erdogan during the years,love Assad/ hate Assad,etc.....literally dozens,without labeling politicians being politicians as " shitty Turkish character in a nutshell ".

Update...No one called you to fight in Ukraine, but for more cooperation, take it or leave it.
I for one I'm happy with working with Turkey so far,see Bayraktar acquisitions or,even better ,the Otokar deal( whose factory may serve as a hub for further European market inroads).
If that irks you,believe me,the EU will survive without it,but,it's a win win situation.
 
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I can find more contradictory statements from Erdogan during the years,love Assad/ hate Assad,etc.....literally dozens,without labeling politicians being politicians as " shitty Turkish character in a nutshell ".

Update...No one called you to fight in Ukraine, but for more cooperation, take it or leave it.
I for one I'm happy with working with Turkey so far,see Bayraktar acquisitions or,even better ,the Otokar deal( whose factory may serve as a hub for further European market inroads).
If that irks you,believe me,the EU will survive without it,but,it's a win win situation.

Erdogan no doubts talks plenty of shit, but the Turkish state policy towards europe has generally always been positive. The european attitude towards Turkiye and their actions more often then not has been hostile. The poles only yesterday belonged to Russia and were communists. Overnight they get accepted into the EU and next thing they think they have a right to talk about Cyprus. No, only a bastard behaves like that.

As for shared values, i agree with that. We see those shared values when it came to Palestinians or Syrian refugees. Or when it comes to the PKK.

As for Ukraine, its not for you to tell Turks what to do. Turks been supporting Ukraine before the war even started and never faltered most of the europeans sold them out only to come in once it was safe to do so. Get off your high f'king horses.

And one other thing, we supported Ukraine despite being under collective pressure from the US, EU and Russia.
 

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My prediction is this.

Putin accepts the ceasefire but only with conditions that are favorable to Russia. Zelensky wants to back out but the Trump regime pressures him to keep the ceasefire in place.

They then begin the longer term negotiations, but Russia keeps moving the goalposts and acting as if anything Ukraine is willing to accept is simply not acceptable to Russia. In the meantime, the Russians will continue to sew seeds of anger in Trump, who wants to be seen as the "peacemaker", and Putin will pressure Trump to, again, become frustrated with Zelensky for not accepting a deal that favours Russia 80% / 20%.

The wildcard then becomes the EU, backed by Britain, Norway and Canada. If the Americans give up on Zelensky because Putin forces Trump into his typical childlike tantrum, will the "coalition of the willing" so what's required to step in and fill the gaps in Ukraine? That includes the following, for the record...

1. Ratchet up financial and military support to Kyiv as levels not yet seen in the war. I'm talking about multi-year commitment worth north of $100 Billion usd.

2. Agree to put troops into Western Ukraine, along with reinforced air defense, far away from the contact line(s), but into a situation where Ukraine can focus all of it's forces at the front, featuring significant amounts of modern Western weaponry.

Time will tell, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the war is far from over at this point.
 

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