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So,current events dont show you otherwise?
That is not new and will never end but lets stay on topic.The "real tangible events" i saw in the last few years were the Germans, French working with Russia against Turkiye. Whether it be syria, whether it be libya, whether it be Azerbaijan.
How does this relate to France supplying more M2K to Ukraine while Trump and Putin strip Ukraine of assets yet the EU countries, UK, Norway and Canada remain committed to supporting Ukraine?
That is not new and will never end but lets stay on topic.
Just answer my question.
France and Germany's actions dont show you a definite negative stance against Russia?
I must say,you form some strange conclusions from this situation."worth keeping in mind that countries like france and germany were ok with Russia's invasion of Ukraine, it was American pressure that pulled them into the fold. If the US were to normalise relations with Russia, i would expect France and Germany to follow suit. Especially France. No way on earth the French or Germans will want to be opposed to the US/Russia combo."
Like i say its contingent on whether americans normalise relations, just like it was on America for pulling Europe into the fold in support Ukraine. No american support for Ukraine and only Turkiye would have been supporting her against Russia.
No one in europe gave a f'k about Ukraine until America made them give a f'k. So logic dictates if the USA pulls support from Ukraine and normalises relations with the USA the french and germans will return to being good partners with Russia.
I must say,you form some strange conclusions from this situation.
You know the US put a hold on weapon/munitions deliveries after which Germany France UK etc stepped up to deliver more weapons/munitions to Ukraine?
And you forget its not about only France and Germany,its the EU without Hungary so this means they all chip in.
How would it look to the rest of the EU if/when France or Germany would change sides?
In this case,nobody in the EU sees the US as an ally rather an ''enemy'' but of course no official statement.
Which means,nobody in the EU gives a fuck if the US and Russia become ''friends''.