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The city of Rodynske has been taken by Russia. This clearly shows that Ukraine just cant keep the frontline stable anymore due to the significant loss/lack of manpower.
I dont know how but Ukraine should try and make some sort of ceasefire deal since Russia will win this war. 2 years ago, Russia used to take a city every year at best but now, in 2025, Russia is about to take 6 cities at least

What kind of news, or propaganda, are you following?

First of all, Rodynske is not a significant city. Pre-war it had a population of less than 10k. It is just one of the small settlements around Pokrovsk. The only city in that area is Pokrovsk. The rest are just small settlements of no significance.

On the other hand, the Ukrainians are denying Russia’s claims of occupation:


This is attrition warfare; its all about which army cant sustain the frontline anymore. At first, both armies will appear equal but suddenly one army will start to breakdown at a rapid pace as we are seeing rn

Other cities that Russia has entered or is close to occupying:
Kupyansk, Vovchansk, Pokrovsk, Myrnorhad, Lyman, Konstantinovka, and Siversk

Again, you are citing Russian propaganda that many Ukrainian cities are about to fall. Here is the debunking of Russian lies direclty from Zelensky:


Ukraine is doing very well in the attrition war, as it had adopted a defensive stance, and is no longer conducting counter attacks. Their losses are minimal compared to the Russians, who are wasting lives in high numbers trying to advance. Some sources say that the casuality ratio in the last few months is about 7-1 in favor of Ukraine.

On top of that, this year Ukraine has finally started to hit at Russia’s economy and MIC, with constant strikes on refineries, oil depots, ammunition factories, etc.. Russia is finally starting to feel the economic pain, which in the end will be the deciding factor of who will win the war.

As things stand right now, Ukraine can fight until victory, which will happen when Russia will collapse economically. The war had never been more favorable for Ukraine than it is now. This is why Zelensky has no intention to secure a ceasfire, and is only trying to get more money and weapons for Ukraine. He knows that if Europe continues to help, Ukraine will win.

Russia can’t win an attrition war against Europe, because it will go bankrupt. And we’re talking about a combination of European money with Ukrainian prices, because the majority of military equipment is built by Ukraine at much lower costs than what it takes to build in Western Europe. EU money combined with Ukrainian prices mean even more purchasing power.

Russia has engaged in a war it cannot win, and the longer it lasts, the deeper the economic crisis will be. The goal is to force the Russian Federation to disintegrate into smaller countries, just like it happened with the Soviet Union.

I’ve seen many Ukrainians saying that people should not confuse the Russian Federation with Russia, as they are two different things. Let’s hope we will see the federation break down, and witness a much smaller Russia, or Muskovia.
 

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What kind of news, or propaganda, are you following?

First of all, Rodynske is not a significant city. Pre-war it had a population of less than 10k. It is just one of the small settlements around Pokrovsk. The only city in that area is Pokrovsk. The rest are just small settlements of no significance.

On the other hand, the Ukrainians are denying Russia’s claims of occupation:




Again, you are citing Russian propaganda that many Ukrainian cities are about to fall. Here is the debunking of Russian lies direclty from Zelensky:

You can call it propaganda or whatever you want; however, it doesnt change the fact that that startegic cities like Kupyansk, Pokrovsk, Lyman, and Vovchansk are close to being lost

Moroever, who on fqing earth believes Zelensky and his media at this point. Just how many times must you get decieved before you realise that Zelensky is doing nothing more than information control. Have you forgotten Toretsk and how Ukraine said that everything is udner control only for the Russian flag to fly atop the city hall 1 week later?
this also happened during the Karabagh war, when Armenia kept saying that everything is under control and we are winning until we find out that Azeri forces are literally 1 km away from Khankendi
Ukraine is doing very well in the attrition war, as it had adopted a defensive stance, and is no longer conducting counter attacks. Their losses are minimal compared to the Russians, who are wasting lives in high numbers trying to advance. Some sources say that the casuality ratio in the last few months is about 7-1 in favor of Ukraine.
If this was true then Ukraine wouldnt be losing territory at this very moment
On top of that, this year Ukraine has finally started to hit at Russia’s economy and MIC, with constant strikes on refineries, oil depots, ammunition factories, etc.. Russia is finally starting to feel the economic pain, which in the end will be the deciding factor of who will win the war.
As things stand right now, Ukraine can fight until victory, which will happen when Russia will collapse economically. The war had never been more favorable for Ukraine than it is now. This is why Zelensky has no intention to secure a ceasfire, and is only trying to get more money and weapons for Ukraine. He knows that if Europe continues to help, Ukraine will win.

Russia can’t win an attrition war against Europe, because it will go bankrupt. And we’re talking about a combination of European money with Ukrainian prices, because the majority of military equipment is built by Ukraine at much lower costs than what it takes to build in Western Europe. EU money combined with Ukrainian prices mean even more purchasing power.

Russia has engaged in a war it cannot win, and the longer it lasts, the deeper the economic crisis will be. The goal is to force the Russian Federation to disintegrate into smaller countries, just like it happened with the Soviet Union.

I’ve seen many Ukrainians saying that people should not confuse the Russian Federation with Russia, as they are two different things. Let’s hope we will see the federation break down, and witness a much smaller Russia, or Muskovia.
Europe will win?
Bro, France is on the verge of economic disaster, German companies are announcing bankruptcy at a level never seen in german history, Inflation is hitting all of Europe like a storm
If you think that, at this rate, Europe wont collapse then you are quite mistaken

Finally, as long as China remians alive, then Russia will survive one way or the other but I cant say the same for the Western camp since Trump doesnt wanna spend the bucks on Zelensky
 

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I tried to make the analogy with the US tariffs on Switzerland, so that you could finally understand that you cannot negotiate the end of a conflict that was unilaterally started, when the aggressor still thinks it has the upper hand. It is not possible.

Just like the Swiss cannot force Trump to lift the tariffs, and if he is not willing to negotiate, there is nothing they can do about it, the same situation is true for Ukraine and Europe against Russia.

Putin is not willing to negotiate the end of the war under reasonable terms, so there is nothing Ukraine and Europe can do to have peace. Their only option is to fight and increase the pain on Russia, until the Russians are willing to negotiate a just peace, which means withdrawing from the whole of Ukraine, and allowing it to join the EU and NATO.
This is completely delusional on many levels, nobody can take you seriously after such a post.

My suggestion is to go into negotiations and reach some sort of peace agreement and try to find some solution where you sadly have to give up certain things and get some other things, some sort of middle ground to end the conflict.

And you come out with an absurd statement that Ukraine should keep fighting until Russia negotiates and then Ukranie gets ALL the land back, can join Eu, can join NATO, basically EVERYTHING that Russia is against, so Russia gets 0, Ukraine gets everything.

Negotiations don't work like that, no wonder this war is still dragging on since most of the European dummies think just like you do.
 

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And you come out with an absurd statement that Ukraine should keep fighting until Russia negotiates and then Ukranie gets ALL the land back, can join Eu, can join NATO, basically EVERYTHING that Russia is against, so Russia gets 0, Ukraine gets everything.

But that’s what it will happen in the end, when the Russian Federation will collapse and disintegrate, and a Boris Yeltsin 2.0 will replace Putin with the support of the desperate oligarchs who will try to salvage whatever remains of their fortunes. When Russia will collapse, it will have to leave Ukraine, as it did with Afghanistan, and it won’t be able to oppose Ukraine’s accession into NATO and the EU.

Why should Europe look for a negotiated settlement, when it can just support Ukraine until Russia collapses? You don’t negotiate with the losers when you are in a position of power, unless they are willing to make huge concessions, and Putin is still not ready for that.
 

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Europe will win?
Bro, France is on the verge of economic disaster, German companies are announcing bankruptcy at a level never seen in german history, Inflation is hitting all of Europe like a storm
If you think that, at this rate, Europe wont collapse then you are quite mistaken

Europe won’t collapse, I can assure you of that. Its economic problems are mild compared to what Russia is facing, and are mostly self inflicted and have nothing to do with the war.

The war will actually allow Europe to build up its defense industry, which could serve as a job booster and replacement for some of the declines in the auto industry, which are inevitable as China gets its market share in the global auto market, at the expense of all incumbents.

In the worst case scenario, Europe can simply let the Euro devalue a little and let inflation run hot for a while, and it would regain competitiveness for its exports, while reducing the value of its debt and social obligations like pensions, which are dragging the economy down.

But helping Ukraine is very affordable, and has great ROI, as in the end it will result in the collapse of Europe’s biggest enemy.

Finally, as long as China remians alive, then Russia will survive one way or the other but I cant say the same for the Western camp since Trump doesnt wanna spend the bucks on Zelensky

Europe can support Ukraine until it wins the war, even without Trump. On the other hand, China doesn’t want to spend its money on Putin’s war of choice, and is waiting in the shadow for its chance to pounce at the wounded bear, while pretending to be its friend.

When Russia will collapse, China may try to buy back Manchuria, and if Russia refuses to sell, take it back by force.
 

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Unless Europe decide to send millions of soldier to fight with Russia in Ukraine, it is hard to see the possible of the winning of Ukraine. On the other way, if Europe do that, it will be another situation.

Maybe I am wrong, but very doubt about “Russia is Europe’s biggest enemy”. If Europe keep good relationship with Russia, which mean the Europe energy price could be lower than now, both Russia and Europe would get benifit from, but someone do not like it.:unsure:
 

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Lukoil, Russia’s second-largest oil producer, on Monday unveiled plans to sell its international assets, just days after the US imposed sanctions on the company as part of efforts to pressure Vladimir Putin into agreeing to an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine.

The company has significant assets in Europe, as well as Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Nigeria. Lukoil’s European assets include refineries — two fully owned in Bulgaria and Romania, and a 45 per cent stake in a third in the Netherlands — as well as energy storage facilities and petrol station networks across Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro and North Macedonia.
Lukoil said the sale of its international assets is being conducted in line with a licence issued by the US Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control to wind down its transactions with it. The company must in theory sell its international assets by November 21, when the US Treasury will begin treating any transactions with the company as violations of Washington’s sanctions.

I think that the sanctions imposed on itself and Rosneft will cost Lukoil many, many billions. From November dealing with Lukoil or Lukoil subsidiaries risks attracting secondary sanctions from the US. What can Ukoil do except sell its overseas interests for whatever it can get? If those assets were worth 100 billion USD a month ago, what are they worth now - 30 billion USD? 20 billion USD? 10 billion USD?
 
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Unless Europe decide to send millions of soldier to fight with Russia in Ukraine, it is hard to see the possible of the winning of Ukraine. On the other way, if Europe do that, it will be another situation.
It's like the weather forecast on Armenian radio: if there are clouds, it will rain. If there are no clouds, it won't rain.
Very clever :)
 

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Unique footage of an aerial battle between a Russian and Ukrainian drone controlled via fiber optic cable. The operator of the Russian FPV drone, spotting the Ukrainian drone, aimed his own drone at it and cut the fiber optic cable controlling the drone's propellers. The video was filmed in the South Dnipropetrovsk region. The Russian drone was piloted by a reconnaissance officer from the 37th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade of the "Vostok" military group, originally from Buryatia. The drone models are unknown.

 

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What can Ukoil do except sell its overseas interests for whatever it can get? If those assets were worth 100 billion USD a month ago, what are they worth now - 30 billion USD? 20 billion USD? 10 billion USD?

They will have to sell for pennies, because the assets will be useless under their ownership, and there is also a deadline to sell. This gives all the bargaining power to the buyer.

This is another big lose for Russia, as it will have to sell many of its overseas investments at big losses.
 

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Maybe I am wrong, but very doubt about “Russia is Europe’s biggest enemy”. If Europe keep good relationship with Russia, which mean the Europe energy price could be lower than now, both Russia and Europe would get benifit from, but someone do not like it.:unsure:

How can Europe keep good relations with Russia, when Russia is actively trying to invade Europe? Russia started a war against Europe. There can be no good relations between combatants in a war. Energy prices are irrelevant when it comes to a much bigger issue like war. Russia needs to be destroyed first, and we’ll see about the energy later.

Anyway, Europe’s needs of fossil imports will decline over time, as renewables and energy storage become cheaper and reduce the reliance on oil and gas. And with reduced demand, prices will remain in check, so better just let Russia collapse, as the world will be able to live without its oil and gas.
 

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But that’s what it will happen in the end, when the Russian Federation will collapse and disintegrate, and a Boris Yeltsin 2.0 will replace Putin with the support of the desperate oligarchs who will try to salvage whatever remains of their fortunes. When Russia will collapse, it will have to leave Ukraine, as it did with Afghanistan, and it won’t be able to oppose Ukraine’s accession into NATO and the EU.

Why should Europe look for a negotiated settlement, when it can just support Ukraine until Russia collapses? You don’t negotiate with the losers when you are in a position of power, unless they are willing to make huge concessions, and Putin is still not ready for that.
Keep dreaming about things that will never happen.
 

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Keep dreaming about things that will never happen.
Who is dreaming?

The good news for Russia's economy: inflation fell from 8.2% to 8.0% in September 2025.

The bad news for Russia's economy: I think that all other indicators will have been negative.

The new bad news this month: the sanctions on Rosneft and Lukoil, Russia's biggest exporters of crude. If India and China stop buying crude from Rosneft and Lukoil and alternative buyers cannot be found, the Russian government's budget deficit will spiral. At best those countries will continue buying crude but asking for a far greater discount to world crude price than now. I think they have been buying around 4 million barrels a day, contributing at least 200 million USD a day - say 75 billion USD a year to Russian government finances. Whatever happens, Russian government revenue will take a hit.

Other countries can borrow to cover deficits. Russia cannot get any external financial help. IMF won't lend to Russia. Foreign entities will not buy Russian government bonds. China will not risk its exports to the US by lending to Russia. The funds to cover the cost of the war will have to be found from within Russia. Or by printing money, like Germany did 100 years ago.
 
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Look at the headline of the most popular Russian military publication: "Can Russia Defeat Ukraine in 3 Years?"
Read the comments too.

Even they don't believe they can defeat Ukraine.
They're planning to fight for another three years!
That's nonsense!
They can't defeat Ukraine even in 33 years!

They could probably have defeated Ukraine in a week or two had the Russian army been the army it was reputed to be.
 

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Just as I said @contricusc
Ukraine is conducting nothing more than an information warfare. However, reality on the ground indicate that Russia is winning👇

I will repeat it again. Ukraine must do a ceasefire even if it is costly since Ukraine in the next 2-3 months will suffer enormous damage.
Currently, the cities of Pokrovsk, Myrnohrad, Vovchansk, Lyman, Siversk, Kupyansk, and Konstantinovka are on the verge of being lost

Last year, Russia only managed to capture 1 city. This year, Russia is close to capturing 5-8 cities.

By this point, it is safe to say that Ukrainian channels are providing fake info to its users
 

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Keep dreaming about things that will never happen.
It did happen after 10-years-long afghan war so Western world activates same mechanism. İndeed Russia itself activated and took risks . Having said that more 7 years and we will see the new ERA.
 

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Who is dreaming?

The good news for Russia's economy: inflation fell from 8.2% to 8.0% in September 2025.

The bad news for Russia's economy: I think that all other indicators will have been negative.

The new bad news this month: the sanctions on Rosneft and Lukoil, Russia's biggest exporters of crude. If India and China stop buying crude from Rosneft and Lukoil and alternative buyers cannot be found, the Russian government's budget deficit will spiral. At best those countries will continue buying crude but asking for a far greater discount to world crude price than now. I think they have been buying around 4 million barrels a day, contributing at least 200 million USD a day - say 75 billion USD a year to Russian government finances. Whatever happens, Russian government revenue will take a hit.

Other countries can borrow to cover deficits. Russia cannot get any external financial help. IMF won't lend to Russia. Foreign entities will not buy Russian government bonds. China will not risk its exports to the US by lending to Russia. The funds to cover the cost of the war will have to be found from within Russia. Or by printing money, like Germany did 100 years ago.
The guy is dreaming that Russia will completely collapse into many nations and completely be destroyed and lose the war completely, thats delusional, I don't know how you can't see that, but like i said before, because of like minded people that make up the majority in the european union and leading positions, we are where we are.
 

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It did happen after 10-years-long afghan war so Western world activates same mechanism. İndeed Russia itself activated and took risks . Having said that more 7 years and we will see the new ERA.
the soviet union did not collapse because of the afgan war, you need to brush up on your history.
 

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The guy is dreaming that Russia will completely collapse into many nations and completely be destroyed and lose the war completely, thats delusional, I don't know how you can't see that, but like i said before, because of like minded people that make up the majority in the european union and leading positions, we are where we are.
I don't suggest that Russia will collapse into many nations. I have never thought or suggested that. I point out that government revenue - which already does not cover budgeted spending for 2025 - will be further reduced by the Rosneft and Lukoil sanctions. At best government revenue will be reduced due to having to sell 4 million bpd at a greater discount to world crude price.

The Russian government budgeted to spend around 500 billion USD in 2025. About 70 billion USD of that would come from Rosneft and Lukoil crude exports.

I don't suggest that Russia will lose the war on the ground. I suggest that the goverrnment will not have the funds to continue fighting and for that reason will have to stop fighting. Unfortunately Putin has sacrificed the civil side of the economy to spending on the military side of the economy and, yes, parts of t he civil side of the economy are heading for collapse. It is already happening in the coal mining sector with predicted losses of 4 billion USD this year. Without financial support the sector should collapse. Companies that run at a loss shut down in the absence of financial support. Putin can choose to finance the sector but that is extra spending. I think he would rather save the money and spend it on the war.

My advice to Ukraine: keep fighting and let Putin destroy more and more of the Russian economy.
 

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