Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[contricusc]

Europe will never be on equal footing, if anything we are on a one way street to becoming irrelevant and completely crumble because of the useless and incompetent politicians.

I think this is the first time I completely agree with you.

 

[Relic]

News on the aid front for Ukraine has streamed in this week.

A group of 8 countries including Norway , Sweden , Denmark , Finland , Iceland , Latvia , Lithuania and Estonia have teamed up to buy a $500 million usd PURL package from USA for Ukraine. The package will consist of the following:

- GMLRS Rockets (HIMARS)
- Air Defense Systems
- Air Defense Interceptors
- Precision Guided Munitions

Germany has agreed to contribute $200 million usd to a PURL package for another PURL package for Ukraine. They'll join a yet-to-be-named group of countries purchasing yet another $500 million tranche off the Americans.

The European Union , has released a $7 billion tranche of funding to Ukraine. The funds are expected to carry Ukraine's budget deficit through January.

EU provides Ukraine with new aid tranche of almost €6 billion

The European Union is disbursing almost €6 billion ($6. 97 billion) in further financial aid to Ukraine, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced on Thursday.

www.yahoo.com

Germany to buy €150m of weapons for Ukraine through PURL, Pistorius says

PURL was launched in July and came following criticism from the White House that Europe needed to shoulder more of the responsibility for Ukraine's security.View on euronews

ca.news.yahoo.com

 

[IC3M@N FX]

How this poor country has to serve as cannon fodder for European security.
Not that I'm defending Russia, but all this could have been avoided from the outset if Ukraine had been left neutral and not lured with offers that were and are unrealistic.
Now it's only a matter of time before there will be a sham peace, with a new Iron Curtain and territorial concessions.

This path was abandoned in 2008 at the NATO summit in Bucharest, when Ukraine (and Georgia) were offered the prospect of future membership – without any guarantees, but with a signal effect, and promises continued to be made over the years.
For Moscow, this was the strategic "point of no return".

 

[Slayer]

1. Argument is Russian armies in Romania and Bulgaria, during XIX. century, which liberated them from Ottoman rule with their help.

2. Could you quote when and where did Russian oficials stated that they will invade Poland. And when was Russia enemy of Europe? When they liberated Europe and fought Napoleon together with majority of European kingdoms? When they fought against Hitler?

1. The liberation was achieved through both Romanian military efforts in the 1877-78 war and Russia's victory over the Ottomans.The Romanian struggle for independence had been building throughout the 19th century, starting with earlier uprisings and the unification of the principalities under Cuza.

I know you want to give sole credit to Russia but that is simply wrong.

2. Action speaks louder than words:

Poland says it shot down Russian drones after airspace violation

Nato jets were deployed to respond to drones that entered Polish airspace during Russian strikes on Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

You may harbor an everlasting irrational love and appreciation for the Russians but the rest of us do not and don't have to. Kidnapping Ukrainian children to "reeducate" them is absolutely despicable.

And before you claim that never happened:

Fate of thousands of Ukrainian children kidnapped by Russia hangs in the balance of talks

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has repeatedly raised the abducted children as a top priority.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Perun]

1. The liberation was achieved through both Romanian military efforts in the 1877-78 war and Russia's victory over the Ottomans.The Romanian struggle for independence had been building throughout the 19th century, starting with earlier uprisings and the unification of the principalities under Cuza.

I know you want to give sole credit to Russia but that is simply wrong.

2. Action speaks louder than words:

Poland says it shot down Russian drones after airspace violation

Nato jets were deployed to respond to drones that entered Polish airspace during Russian strikes on Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

You may harbor an everlasting irrational love and appreciation for the Russians but the rest of us do not and don't have to. Kidnapping Ukrainian children to "reeducate" them is absolutely despicable.

And before you claim that never happened:

Fate of thousands of Ukrainian children kidnapped by Russia hangs in the balance of talks

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has repeatedly raised the abducted children as a top priority.

www.nbcnews.com

1. I clearly said "...with their help..." .
2. I newer said what you claim in your 2nd point