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That Raptor has definitely seen better days.
 

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That Raptor has definitely seen better days.
There's significant corrosion on the coating, as if it's been in a fierce battle with the weather balloon. I think the weather balloon must have attacked with salt water. Joking aside, it's ironic that the Raptor still holds a special place in the field of air superiority in the new generation of jets, while it only has a weather balloon killmark in its career record.
 

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US to Boost Output of Bombs Designed to Hit Underground Nuclear Facilities​


  • Ammo plant in Oklahoma will produce up to four times as many
  • Bomb could penetrate buried nuclear sites in Iran, North Korea
An Army ammunition plant in southeast Oklahoma is being expanded to at least triple monthly production of the US’s biggest non-nuclear bomb, a weapon often invoked in debates about a potential attack on deeply buried nuclear facilities in Iran or North Korea.

The 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator, known as a bunker-buster, can be dropped only from a B-2 stealth bomber. It’s far bigger than the unguided 2,000-pound (900-kilogram), explosives that the Biden administration has postponed sending to Israel out of concern for civilian casualties in its war to defeat Hamas in Gaza.

The facility under construction at the 70-square-mile (181-square-kilometer) McAlester Army Ammunition Plant will significantly increase production as needed, the Air Force said in a statement. Officials at the facility told Bloomberg News during a March tour by General Charles Brown, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that equates to completing as many as six or possibly eight bombs per month, up from two currently.

McAlester personnel fill bomb casings with explosives and load the warhead and fuse. Boeing Co. makes the bomb’s tailkit, which provides navigation.


The Army has described the new bomb assembly area at the Oklahoma plant as a “state of the art facility that has the ability to support the production of 2,000-to-30,000-pound assets as well as providing flexible” explosive “mixing options needed for future requirements.” It’s scheduled to be completed by late spring to early fall, according to the service, with a ribbon-cutting ceremony scheduled for July 30.

A separate program to test a new “Large Penetrator Smart Fuse” for the bomb has been on hold because of “contract challenges that affected the ability to construct targets” to evaluate the improvement, the Pentagon test office said in its latest assessment of weapons programs.

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator “is a very important weapon” for US Central Command as well as Europe and the Indo-Pacific region, Frank McKenzie, a retired Marine Corps general who led Central Command, said in an email. It “ensures that we can target extremely well-protected underground facilities, wherever they are located.” He said that it “contributes significantly to our ability to achieve deterrence against nations such as Iran.”

Its importance is demonstrated by General Brown, who keeps a fragment from a test firing of the bomb in his Pentagon office.

Read More: More 30,000-Pound ‘Bunker-Buster’ Bombs Sought for US Forces

Iran has the largest underground program in the Middle East “to conceal and protect critical military and civilian infrastructure throughout the country,” according to the Defense Intelligence Agency in a 2019 report on its military. Iran maintains that its extensive nuclear program is intended for peaceful uses.

North Korea, China​

In a separate 2021 report, the Pentagon intelligence agency said North Korea’s underground facilities are “the largest and most-fortified in the world,” with thousands of them “intended to withstand” US bunker-buster bombs.


Separately, China’s military “maintains a robust and technologically advanced underground facility program to conceal and protect all aspects of its military forces,” the Pentagon said in its most recent China military report.

In addition to its low-profile task assembling bunker-busters, the Oklahoma plant plays a role in supplying Ukraine with 155mm shells and air defense weapons. Although no artillery ammo is produced at McAlester, it’s a key storage, inspection and shipment point crammed with cargo containers and magazines loaded with ammunition. The weapons are shipped over 200 miles (322 kilometers) of railroad track to air or sea transit points within days of a presidential authorization to draw down US stockpiles.

Established in 1943 as a Navy facility before transfer to the Army, the plant is a high-security but bucolic facility with open spaces through which the occasional deer lopes.

 

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US to Boost Output of Bombs Designed to Hit Underground Nuclear Facilities​


  • Ammo plant in Oklahoma will produce up to four times as many
  • Bomb could penetrate buried nuclear sites in Iran, North Korea
An Army ammunition plant in southeast Oklahoma is being expanded to at least triple monthly production of the US’s biggest non-nuclear bomb, a weapon often invoked in debates about a potential attack on deeply buried nuclear facilities in Iran or North Korea.

The 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator, known as a bunker-buster, can be dropped only from a B-2 stealth bomber. It’s far bigger than the unguided 2,000-pound (900-kilogram), explosives that the Biden administration has postponed sending to Israel out of concern for civilian casualties in its war to defeat Hamas in Gaza.

The facility under construction at the 70-square-mile (181-square-kilometer) McAlester Army Ammunition Plant will significantly increase production as needed, the Air Force said in a statement. Officials at the facility told Bloomberg News during a March tour by General Charles Brown, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that equates to completing as many as six or possibly eight bombs per month, up from two currently.

McAlester personnel fill bomb casings with explosives and load the warhead and fuse. Boeing Co. makes the bomb’s tailkit, which provides navigation.


The Army has described the new bomb assembly area at the Oklahoma plant as a “state of the art facility that has the ability to support the production of 2,000-to-30,000-pound assets as well as providing flexible” explosive “mixing options needed for future requirements.” It’s scheduled to be completed by late spring to early fall, according to the service, with a ribbon-cutting ceremony scheduled for July 30.

A separate program to test a new “Large Penetrator Smart Fuse” for the bomb has been on hold because of “contract challenges that affected the ability to construct targets” to evaluate the improvement, the Pentagon test office said in its latest assessment of weapons programs.

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator “is a very important weapon” for US Central Command as well as Europe and the Indo-Pacific region, Frank McKenzie, a retired Marine Corps general who led Central Command, said in an email. It “ensures that we can target extremely well-protected underground facilities, wherever they are located.” He said that it “contributes significantly to our ability to achieve deterrence against nations such as Iran.”

Its importance is demonstrated by General Brown, who keeps a fragment from a test firing of the bomb in his Pentagon office.

Read More: More 30,000-Pound ‘Bunker-Buster’ Bombs Sought for US Forces

Iran has the largest underground program in the Middle East “to conceal and protect critical military and civilian infrastructure throughout the country,” according to the Defense Intelligence Agency in a 2019 report on its military. Iran maintains that its extensive nuclear program is intended for peaceful uses.

North Korea, China​

In a separate 2021 report, the Pentagon intelligence agency said North Korea’s underground facilities are “the largest and most-fortified in the world,” with thousands of them “intended to withstand” US bunker-buster bombs.


Separately, China’s military “maintains a robust and technologically advanced underground facility program to conceal and protect all aspects of its military forces,” the Pentagon said in its most recent China military report.

In addition to its low-profile task assembling bunker-busters, the Oklahoma plant plays a role in supplying Ukraine with 155mm shells and air defense weapons. Although no artillery ammo is produced at McAlester, it’s a key storage, inspection and shipment point crammed with cargo containers and magazines loaded with ammunition. The weapons are shipped over 200 miles (322 kilometers) of railroad track to air or sea transit points within days of a presidential authorization to draw down US stockpiles.

Established in 1943 as a Navy facility before transfer to the Army, the plant is a high-security but bucolic facility with open spaces through which the occasional deer lopes.

The Grandmother of MOAB
 

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Quarterhorse is the first program on Hermeus’ roadmap to hypersonic flight. The program culminates into two primary objectives:

1. Demonstrate Chimera’s turbine-based combined cycle engine capabilities in-flight
2. Break the nearly 50-year-old airspeed record held by the legendary SR-71

Once in production, this aircraft will be used as a platform for commercial testing and development efforts.
The various iterations of Quarterhorse, each progressively increasing in complexity, distribute the program risk across multiple vehicles and accelerate learnings for Hermeus.  
 

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“BREAKING NEWS

US 6th generation fighter jet tender awarded to Boeing

The name of the plane that Trump introduced as the world's first 6th generation plane will be F-47

Trump says F-47 has been flown secretly for 5 years

•“Our enemies won’t even see the F-47 coming. They won’t know what hit them.”

•“We have ordered many planes but we cannot say the price”
 

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“BREAKING NEWS

US 6th generation fighter jet tender awarded to Boeing

The name of the plane that Trump introduced as the world's first 6th generation plane will be F-47

Trump says F-47 has been flown secretly for 5 years

•“Our enemies won’t even see the F-47 coming. They won’t know what hit them.”

•“We have ordered many planes but we cannot say the price”

Makes sense in the "rotation"

LM will be busy with F-35 for some time to come....and NG will have B-21 to contend with.

So Boeing being picked is not a surprise here at all.
 

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Makes sense in the "rotation"

LM will be busy with F-35 for some time to come....and NG will have B-21 to contend with.

So Boeing being picked is not a surprise here at all.
And particularly when you consider that Boeing Civilian has been losing ground to Airbus for quite a while now.
 

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And particularly when you consider that Boeing Civilian has been losing ground to Airbus for quite a while now.

To some degree yes, but not so relevant as one would assume.

The pedigree of Boeing "military" (OG Boeing1 + NAA + Rockwell + Rocketdyne + MD1 et al.) is almost perfectly disjointed away from "civilian" (OG Boeing2 + MD2), even in the corporate top layer to this day....and then the set of bureaucrats in DC each side mostly deals with (civvy fed bureaucrats vs pentagon types).

During cold war is the best time to analyse to understand it today.... Boeing military was heavily AF infra, rockets, missiles, space and transport and heavy bomber based....i.e hugely logistics, strategic + asymmetric based. This dictated the why/how the others were merged with it too.

It was MD, LM, GD and Northrop, Grumman et al... that were more in the military tiers "in-between" regarding tactical aircraft and assets (Fighters, ground attack and overlap with bombers too etc) for both AF and Navy. GD would ofc be merged into LM...and Northrop + Grumman into NG.

LM, MD were only ones to have civvy side like Boeing....these are all defunct now by merger into Boeing or simple termination.

Im skipping lot of pertinent details ofc....but generally the civilian market consideration is to large degree segregated from rotation cycle of the military side (which has significant LM and NG capacity today to always factor in for pentagon decision makers).

Boeing civvy side will do its wax and wane thing with Airbus anyhow, the margins, investment cycles, production runs and response rates are different to military domain....thats what causes this internal segregation to begin with to handle it.
 

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This is unbelievable BREAKING NEWS ⚠️🚨🔔📡🛰️📱🖥️📺📻📰📢that F-47 NGAD will be built by Boeing when most people were speculating LM or NG. 🤦‍♂️ :LOL:
So POTUS Donald Trump has said -
- It will be most advanced, capable, lethal jet.
- Its prototype has been flying secretly since 5 YEARS.
- It will be superior in stealth, speed (Mach 2+, may be supercruise), payload than all current figters, nothing comes even close.
- USA's enemies will never see it coming.
- It can fly with as many drones as desired.
- The price is not revealed intentionally yet which might indicate some technologies.
His associate standing beside him added that they will have generations of air dominance for their grand kids bcoz of the technologies in it.
2 USAF generals including chief were also standing beside.
There are 2 blurred posters showcased on both his sides, by which it looks like "Bird of Prey" concept.

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IDK how this jet can supercede all current jets in speed, agility, payload.
But time will tell soon now. Lots of media & documentaries will be coming.

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To some degree yes, but not so relevant as one would assume.

The pedigree of Boeing "military" (OG Boeing1 + NAA + Rockwell + Rocketdyne + MD1 et al.) is almost perfectly disjointed away from "civilian" (OG Boeing2 + MD2), even in the corporate top layer to this day....and then the set of bureaucrats in DC each side mostly deals with (civvy fed bureaucrats vs pentagon types).

During cold war is the best time to analyse to understand it today.... Boeing military was heavily AF infra, rockets, missiles, space and transport and heavy bomber based....i.e hugely logistics, strategic + asymmetric based. This dictated the why/how the others were merged with it too.

It was MD, LM, GD and Northrop, Grumman et al... that were more in the military tiers "in-between" regarding tactical aircraft and assets (Fighters, ground attack and overlap with bombers too etc) for both AF and Navy. GD would ofc be merged into LM...and Northrop + Grumman into NG.

LM, MD were only ones to have civvy side like Boeing....these are all defunct now by merger into Boeing or simple termination.

Im skipping lot of pertinent details ofc....but generally the civilian market consideration is to large degree segregated from rotation cycle of the military side (which has significant LM and NG capacity today to always factor in for pentagon decision makers).

Boeing civvy side will do its wax and wane thing with Airbus anyhow, the margins, investment cycles, production runs and response rates are different to military domain....thats what causes this internal segregation to begin with to handle it.
I’ve heard some aviation experts arguing that behind civilian side lagging lays the replacement of aviation engineering philosophy with business management mentality whereas, as you pointed out, the military domain was still run by MD team which upholds engineering side.
Come to think of it, makes sense too. I mean, you don’t need really take market demands, finance, costs and what not into account. You don’t need to cut corners. You only have to be precise and meticulous to meet USAF requirements and costs are not a big deal.
 
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