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I always wondered. What are the Democrats opinions about this guy and his narrative. Because when I see it, i call all US endeavours in the world BS.



Best joke in the world: Obama has nobel peace prize...
 

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I always wondered. What are the Democrats opinions about this guy and his narrative. Because when I see it, i call all US endeavours in the world BS.


He cuts past all the BS and gets to the root of the matter.

Democrat opinion on that depends on what kind of democrat they are. Neo lib type has little to no chance taking this stuff on board....much like neo-cons do not for equivalents of this guy on their end (say paleo-cons or rooted libertarians).

Both (neo lib and neo con) unfortunately are entrenched in politics, power corridors, media, donor groups and corporate interlocutors (noticeably big tech, weapons industry and pharma these days) etc.

Whereas lot of regular folks that have strong BS-meter (whether on left or right) can really make lot of common cause.

The stupid "neo" BS ppl project that they have to exist as some bridge because their whole narrative is that without them left and right cannot make common cause on some fundamental issues.

They gaslight whatever is needed to keep this cushy "we be fuzzy bridge coz we sez so" existence....when in reality they are the single biggest obstacle to US actually progressing.

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Trump operation in the Pentagon

Trump, who sued for votes in many states after losing the presidential election to his rival Democrat Joe Biden, according to unofficial results, allegedly his administration will dismiss critical figures from the security bureaucracy.

It was alleged that the US leader would also dismiss CIA and FBI directors after Donald Trump announced that he dismissed Esper from his Twitter account.

On the other hand, it is noteworthy that Trump appointed people who work very closely with him to critical positions in the Pentagon.

With Esper's dismissal, the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Security Policies, James Anderson, was also reported to have resigned.

Many senior executives in the Pentagon are expected to resign after Anderson.

Trump reportedly appointed retired Brigadier General Anthony Tata, who had previously been nominated for the Undersecretary of Defense Security Policies and was not approved by the Senate for his "anti-Islamic posts" and "describing former President Barack Obama as a terrorist", to the same post.

Tata will not need Senate approval as he will run the office by proxy.

In addition, Trump, who appointed Christopher Miller, the Director of the National Anti-Terrorism Center as acting at the Ministry of Defense, allegedly appointed Kash Patel, a member of the National Security Council and close to him, as the Secretary of Defense Ministry.

It is claimed that these changes in the Pentagon and what is expected to be done in the CIA and the FBI are related to the legal process initiated by Donald Trump regarding the election results.

Trump is preparing for a coup in America.
 

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If you are an American,

You must concur Trump actually a better dude than most of his predecessor far away until Kennedy. It just his persona is not very well liked by today bollocks and SJW degenerates

In his term there is not much American sons must dying uselessly at foreign soils trying to safe what is not their cause
There is raising issue about European complacentcy and their lacks of military posturing and spending in which burdened heavily on US tax payer
He is voicing the issue of unfair trade against many countries in which actually burdened American economy at long term
He is decisively giving timely warning against his adversaries including Iran and prevent much more bloodshed in Iraq and prevent Bengazhi style of Raids decisively
He is taming the Rogue of Kim family and defuse Korean issue for the time being, safe American Billion US Dollar for deployment and other preparation
American economy is growing up at better pace before Covid19 outbreak
He is trying to reform ObamaCare with the more healthier (financially) plan

His greatest sins is undermined the Covid19 issue, not wearing masker and his Twitter language !!!

I agree with a big part of this.

In the end though, Trump represented something of a danger to the established system (i.e this model of non-politician populism salesman compared to cultivated-groomed donor+privy group-vetted career politician).

That kind of thing was really supposed to have ended with Teddy Roosevelt (the last real rebel in US political realm along with Ike to some degree)...and similarly back then the lesson given was a character like Woodrow Wilson....and if you look at how all this timed with the creation of the Federal Reserve (the underlooked issue of its day that would take on all kind of proportions later that makes it near impossible to reverse peaceably).

This time it was most of course noticeably seen in the (undeclared but somewhat defacto) 4th branch of govt: Media (and their spread to control big tech "platforms")...given the massive expansion of mass media in recent times.

Simply the message+results was kept bottled up as far as possible to his own support base and not allowed to spread for a fair judgement among the rest. Instead a very cherrypicked loudspeaker was on full volume for everyone else.

We will have to see how the American people (and more low and mid tier power structures below DC) react to this blatant phenomenon now.

Literally yesterdays political enemies are conveniently redeemed in complete double standards way (to own media + establishment assertion). Thus we see things like the War on Iraq "Anthrax vial at UN" guy attending the literal democratic convention earlier, his speech broadcast etc.

That stuff is of magnitude more compared to say all the episodes of hypocrisy regarding a more yearly-based scenario like impeachment, or corona....or 4 year one like russiagate.

I for one think there is limit to how much gaslighting and hypocrisy a population can take like that. Any population intrinsically wants one standard for all....not double standard.

Thus if an establishment keeps harping and praising a double standard it has created (and gaslights again and again its a single one or to simply ignore it), well that just means population will then eventually go for zero standards instead, that wont end well for political elite I can tell you that. That is the basis of every revolution.

There are just a few solidly built institutions that are preserving a credible union now (courts and due process come to mind) but even those are starting to be challenged (if we look neutrally at say kavanaugh hearings)

Everything else is eroded to varying degree, and has become a zero sum political power grab.

If one political party is literally bailing out rioters (who have broken the law) simply for political+ power agenda reasons (with a massive use of identity politics), you have to really go back in time when that was done last in US history, and that was really not a good time at all (ironically from the same party, or maybe not so ironically).

This time its just the sheer level of gaslighting propaganda in play (the basis being that identity politics is now good and the collectivisation purpose does not exist because we say so)

i.e claim the reverse of what they physically do...and deflect it all on the opponent and make it stick at all cost....

Saul Alinsky will be proud....and Bezmenov was right.
 
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@Yankeestani its funny you brought up walter cronkite actually.

It got me thinking a bit....who was the "old school" newsperson/journalist/MSM'er most stuck in my memory for presenting the US side/perspective in my early formative era (90s)....and it would have to be Dan Rather.

I forget exactly why/how....I was a kid in HK as you know and I think CBS was simply part of our satellite TV feed (with Star TV as it was known) or it was syndicated somewhere in a local channel for the morning or evening news etc.

Coz damn I somehow remember even the CBS weather report music as I am having breakfast and prepping to go to school etc...its weird the small things that stick with you over the larger things you forget.

Anyway he was a typical chump/hack in hindsight ofc, part of bigger web of BS that was part of great deception from what we call the "swamp" now.

I dunno if you saw this one before, but it really boils my blood just how much we were lied to and deceived back then by US govt + "leadership":


I was one of those folks that believed the US side to nearly 90% tune and automatically reject Hussein side of things to similar level etc. How wrong I was, but at least I was young and stupid....I grew up and learned and know better. But its f-ed up how many people don't grow up at all and are totally controlled by the same crap forever.

Now we are most likely (save some crazy hail mary from the courts/trump) AGAIN going to have a president that voted for that terrible war.... its messed up the gaslighting they get away with man. Never forget that....because I know you, my young friend, are one that "gets it" past all these dumb games....just like I do.

Also do you have anything to comment w.r.t my post above this one?
 

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