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I should've gone with the "dem vote = polling average minus 3-4%" formula once again but I foolishly thought the polls should have corrected the biases they have in sampling. Statistics is the bane of the sciences.

The thing I learn from this mistake is that the influence of social media on general public is growing and the discontent with the systems will create anti-system solutions.

This may sound stupid but this is great news for Zafer party. Last time that constituency, despite dominating social media, only got like 3% vote. Next time I'd not be surprised if they pass 20%. Özdağ's problem is he doesn't have a party on the ground and has tokenized himself into a one-issue guy; otherwise that constituency (young male voter) can have a historic hold on people's minds through their domination of social media (for at least a decade, or maybe two) by having first mover advantage in those places.
 

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Also with Trump being very pro-fracking, and the resolving of Ukraine war faster than it would under Harris, price of oil and gas will plummet, which will help our current account deficit massively.
 

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Senate, Congress House, all under control of Trump. Means less power of Jewish lobby.
 

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Also with Trump being very pro-fracking, and the resolving of Ukraine war faster than it would under Harris, price of oil and gas will plummet, which will help our current account deficit massively.
Can you speculate on how will Trump's victory affect Europe's position towards us?
 

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Erdoğan joins the wagon.

"I congratulate my friend Donald Trump, who won the presidential election in the United States of America after a great struggle and was re-elected as the President of the United States of America.

In this new period that will begin with the election of the American people, I hope that Turkey-US relations will be strengthened, regional and global crises and wars, especially the Palestinian issue and the Russia-Ukraine war, will come to an end, and I believe that more efforts will be made for a fairer world.

I wish that the elections will be auspicious for the friendly and allied US people and for all humanity."

 

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Jesus, this really is about the most-hilarious-possible result, right? :oops: :ROFLMAO:

I don't even like the guy, but whoa, the motherfucker actually won the popular vote and (seems likely) both houses? Bahaha, holy hell, this is wild. Just shows you how full of shit the pollster grifters are, along with that Allan Lichtmann guy who supposedly always predicts it right. Nobody knows anything, sometimes they get lucky, others they can't even comprehend a blind spot of this magnitude.

Trump. Got. The. Popular. Vote.

That's so wild to think about. Any complaints, bitching, let alone street riots in the wake of that are going to be so funny in their lack-of-self-awareness. Democrats both party-institutional and voter-base alike are going to pretty much have to accept this with gritted teeth and a polite smile if they want to keep any credibility of saying they're better than the Trumpsters. Not that I epect they'll raid the capitol or anything, but "let's burn some shit!" and looting is probably likely.

Also just watch all of the "there will never be an election again, democracy is done, America's over!" rhetoric just completely evaporate as of tomorrow. It'll switch gear immediately to "we have to plan, we have to prepare, we have to be ready for the 2028 election and take the country back!", showing that talk was all fear-monger-y bullshit from the start.

Yeah, 4 more years of obnoious Trump bullshit, tweet feuds with North Korea, calling whatever female celebrity doesn't like him a fat bitch and such. It'll be annoying. And yet, I'd be lying if I didn't say this result's fucking gleefully funny in that schadenfreude-amusement way. It's great.
 

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Translated from Turkish by Google:
In the United States of America, a country made up of immigrants, the people elected Trump, who said he would stop immigration so that America's national identity would not be damaged, despite the global financial barons and the Pentagon. I hope that the Turkish people will show the same effort and common sense that the American people have shown to protect their country in the upcoming elections and bring the Victory Party to power.
@zaferpartisi
 

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Can you speculate on how will Trump's victory affect Europe's position towards us?
I think it will pose opportunities to drive wedges between different actors. I think there will be a push towards independent foreign policy from U.S. in many of these countries and there's a chance they go their own way on individual issues.
 

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Landslide victory for the Orange Man. Trump wiped the floor with Kamala. My money was on the Trump but I never thought Trump could win that big.
I did. Trump lost in 2020 because a lot of left-wing voters (and some disillusioned Republicans) really, really hated him. But now you have Biden and his demented grandpa routine and then you have Kamala, who basically coasted to vice president's position through pure luck and backroom deals rather than any kind of popularity. Unsurprisingly, people hated them too. This election has, so far, one of the lowest voter turnouts in US history which tells me that most people just don't give a shit anymore and think both sides suck donkey balls and won't fix a thing (and they're probably right).

Trump winning is probably good on the foreign policy front for both Turkiye and Azerbaijan but won't change much on the domestic front.
 

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