USA US Presidential Elections 2024

[Rooxbar]

I should've gone with the "dem vote = polling average minus 3-4%" formula once again but I foolishly thought the polls should have corrected the biases they have in sampling. Statistics is the bane of the sciences.

The thing I learn from this mistake is that the influence of social media on general public is growing and the discontent with the systems will create anti-system solutions.

This may sound stupid but this is great news for Zafer party. Last time that constituency, despite dominating social media, only got like 3% vote. Next time I'd not be surprised if they pass 20%. Özdağ's problem is he doesn't have a party on the ground and has tokenized himself into a one-issue guy; otherwise that constituency (young male voter) can have a historic hold on people's minds through their domination of social media (for at least a decade, or maybe two) by having first mover advantage in those places.

 

[Rooxbar]

Also with Trump being very pro-fracking, and the resolving of Ukraine war faster than it would under Harris, price of oil and gas will plummet, which will help our current account deficit massively.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854089214884782469

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854083795386880454

Quite awkard

 

[Huelague]

Senate, Congress House, all under control of Trump. Means less power of Jewish lobby.

 

[hugh]

Also with Trump being very pro-fracking, and the resolving of Ukraine war faster than it would under Harris, price of oil and gas will plummet, which will help our current account deficit massively.

Can you speculate on how will Trump's victory affect Europe's position towards us?

 

[Sanchez]

Erdoğan joins the wagon.

"I congratulate my friend Donald Trump, who won the presidential election in the United States of America after a great struggle and was re-elected as the President of the United States of America.

In this new period that will begin with the election of the American people, I hope that Turkey-US relations will be strengthened, regional and global crises and wars, especially the Palestinian issue and the Russia-Ukraine war, will come to an end, and I believe that more efforts will be made for a fairer world.

I wish that the elections will be auspicious for the friendly and allied US people and for all humanity."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854085164709896248

 

[Lordimperator]

Also with Trump being very pro-fracking, and the resolving of Ukraine war faster than it would under Harris, price of oil and gas will plummet, which will help our current account deficit massively.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854078992413827540

 

[SilverMachine]

Jesus, this really is about the most-hilarious-possible result, right?

I don't even like the guy, but whoa, the motherfucker actually won the popular vote and (seems likely) both houses? Bahaha, holy hell, this is wild. Just shows you how full of shit the pollster grifters are, along with that Allan Lichtmann guy who supposedly always predicts it right. Nobody knows anything, sometimes they get lucky, others they can't even comprehend a blind spot of this magnitude.

Trump. Got. The. Popular. Vote.

That's so wild to think about. Any complaints, bitching, let alone street riots in the wake of that are going to be so funny in their lack-of-self-awareness. Democrats both party-institutional and voter-base alike are going to pretty much have to accept this with gritted teeth and a polite smile if they want to keep any credibility of saying they're better than the Trumpsters. Not that I epect they'll raid the capitol or anything, but "let's burn some shit!" and looting is probably likely.

Also just watch all of the "there will never be an election again, democracy is done, America's over!" rhetoric just completely evaporate as of tomorrow. It'll switch gear immediately to "we have to plan, we have to prepare, we have to be ready for the 2028 election and take the country back!", showing that talk was all fear-monger-y bullshit from the start.

Yeah, 4 more years of obnoious Trump bullshit, tweet feuds with North Korea, calling whatever female celebrity doesn't like him a fat bitch and such. It'll be annoying. And yet, I'd be lying if I didn't say this result's fucking gleefully funny in that schadenfreude-amusement way. It's great.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854091124203225415

Translated from Turkish by Google:
In the United States of America, a country made up of immigrants, the people elected Trump, who said he would stop immigration so that America's national identity would not be damaged, despite the global financial barons and the Pentagon. I hope that the Turkish people will show the same effort and common sense that the American people have shown to protect their country in the upcoming elections and bring the Victory Party to power.
@zaferpartisi

 

[Rooxbar]

Can you speculate on how will Trump's victory affect Europe's position towards us?

I think it will pose opportunities to drive wedges between different actors. I think there will be a push towards independent foreign policy from U.S. in many of these countries and there's a chance they go their own way on individual issues.

 

[Huelague]

What is the general view in Turkiye about Trump's victory?

In India, this is seen as broadly beneficial.

Pro Trump.

 

[Anastasius]

Landslide victory for the Orange Man. Trump wiped the floor with Kamala. My money was on the Trump but I never thought Trump could win that big.

I did. Trump lost in 2020 because a lot of left-wing voters (and some disillusioned Republicans) really, really hated him. But now you have Biden and his demented grandpa routine and then you have Kamala, who basically coasted to vice president's position through pure luck and backroom deals rather than any kind of popularity. Unsurprisingly, people hated them too. This election has, so far, one of the lowest voter turnouts in US history which tells me that most people just don't give a shit anymore and think both sides suck donkey balls and won't fix a thing (and they're probably right).

Trump winning is probably good on the foreign policy front for both Turkiye and Azerbaijan but won't change much on the domestic front.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854073276688904323

 

[Rooxbar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854053753151787062

good shit.

 

[Huelague]

Can you speculate on how will Trump's victory affect Europe's position towards us?

Germany has started with first steps to come closer with Turkey (politically and militarily).

 

[TR_123456]

All hail Trump!!!

 

[Afif]

No!!!!

 

[Afif]

I should've gone with the "dem vote = polling average minus 3-4%" formula once again but I foolishly thought the polls should have corrected the biases they have in sampling. Statistics is the bane of the sciences.

The thing I learn from this mistake is that the influence of social media on general public is growing and the discontent with the systems will create anti-system solutions.

This may sound stupid but this is great news for Zafer party. Last time that constituency, despite dominating social media, only got like 3% vote. Next time I'd not be surprised if they pass 20%. Özdağ's problem is he doesn't have a party on the ground and has tokenized himself into a one-issue guy; otherwise that constituency (young male voter) can have a historic hold on people's minds through their domination of social media (for at least a decade, or maybe two) by having first mover advantage in those places.

I guess with these empowered young male constituency, we are gonna be watching a lot more of these in coming days.

All these brodcasts are so cringe I swear

youtube.com

 

[Rooxbar]

I guess with these empowered young male constituency, we are gonna be watching a lot more of these in coming days.

All these brodcasts are so cringe I swear

youtube.com

it may be a temporary backlash; normal people are more malleable than we assume. Trump came to the scene by fighting every other republican in the primaries; the image of him being against the establishment and deep state has been cultivated by a lot of litigation and media onslaught against him so he is capable of attracting anti-system people who never engage with the system. But if this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot–Hawley_Tariff_Act and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924 are any guide, he can disappoint those guys real fast.

Then there may come a Trump equivalent on the democratic side, fighting against the machine and winning the primary, and that would be history repeating itself with FDR 2.0.

 

[Afif]

it may be a temporary backlash; Trump came to the scene by fighting every other republican in the primaries; the image of him being against the establishment and deep state has been cultivated by a lot of litigation and media onslaught against him so he is capable of attracting anti-system people who never engage with the system. But if this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot–Hawley_Tariff_Act and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924 are any guide, he can disappoint those guys real fast.

Then there may come a Trump equivalent on the democratic side, fighting against the machine and winning the primary, and that would be history repeating itself with FDR 2.0.

Man, when the world is getting increasingly complex with physical and digital globalization, you need a well educated young population more than ever to navigate these complexities as a society. Instead, with the steady degradation of education, you have increasing polarization and the rise of anti system reactionary sentiment feeding off systematic social media biases and outright misinformations.

I also think extreme individualism stemming from leftwing ideology and Ultra capitalist set up in everyday life, (high standard of living) has made individuals largely loosing touch with the broader society and the reality itself. It goes for both people on the left and on the right. That's why it nuts everywhere you look. Objectivity, Truth and your responsibility as a member/part of your collective society has become inconsequential. That's why these doesn't matter anymore, like they used to be. Narcissism is not a bad thing nowadays, it is almost like a fashion. It's all so depressing.