Vietnam says it will not join any anti-China alliance

[xizhimen]

Vietnam says it will not join any anti-China alliance

August 25, 2021

VIETNAM said ahead of a visit from US Vice-President Kamala Harris today that it would not be dragged into any anti-China alliance in the Far East.

Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh met Chinese envoy Xiong Bo and stressed that differences over maritime rights would not see Vietnam abandon an independent foreign policy rooted in support for multilateralism.

Vietnam would work to build trust, exchanges and co-operation with China, Mr Pham said.

He added that he hoped China would work through the Association of South-East Asian Nations to work out codes of conduct in disputed waters.

Mr Xiong said Vietnam and China shared communist political systems and beliefs and should work together.

The US has military bases in many of China’s neighbours including Japan and South Korea, and has worked to build a new alliance known as the Quad with India, Australia and Japan to encircle China.

Ms Harris said today she hoped Vietnam would appreciate a greater US naval presence along Asia’s coasts to protect it from Chinese “bullying.”

Vietnam says it will not join any anti-China alliance

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[xizhimen]

US media and politicians always call China "communist China‘’， do they also call Vietnam "communist Vietnam‘’？

 

[Saithan]

I think it's wise of Vietnam to not enter any alliance especially considering who they're land-connected too. But it would be foolish of Vietnam to reject US presence as well because that would give China full freedom to bully smaller nations.

In this regard the island countries are more free as they literally only have maritime borders with China and have to protect their islands and EEZ. Thus cooperation becomes an easier aspect.

 

[Gary]

I think it's wise of Vietnam to not enter any alliance especially considering who they're land-connected too. But it would be foolish of Vietnam to reject US presence as well because that would give China full freedom to bully smaller nations.

In this regard the island countries are more free as they literally only have maritime borders with China and have to protect their islands and EEZ. Thus cooperation becomes an easier aspect.

The best way for ID-VN-PH-MY is to strengthen it's own military power while staying out if an outright alliance.

Strategic ambiguity is a must when it comes to alliance.

In the mean time, it's best to increase military, intelligence and economic cooperation with the west. Any conflict with China will likely be in the Taiwan strait, which will be a US-JPN security concern too far for any SE Asian countries to do anything about it.

 

[Saithan]

The best way for ID-VN-PH-MY is to strengthen it's own military power while staying out if an outright alliance.

Strategic ambiguity is a must when it comes to alliance.

In the mean time, it's best to increase military, intelligence and economic cooperation with the west. Any conflict with China will likely be in the Taiwan strait, which will be a US-JPN security concern too far for any SE Asian countries to do anything about it.

Oh yes, I agree. China is definitely keeping an eye out on countries like Vietnam because any indication of receiving something from the "west" is going to be met with harsh words, sanction-like reactions and everything.

Since the west isn't a united entity, they'll have to organise united support in various fields to alleviate the burden of such sanctions.

 

[RogerRanger]

Which is why the US should allow the Russians to arm nations in the South China sea. Rather than doing it themselves. Its the damn Neo-con's Jewish exiles from Russia who hate Russia because they were defeated by Stalin pushing the Russians into an Alliance with China. And stopping us and them for moving against China in central Asia and South China sea.

Also the Americans are retarded, their entire strategy against China is that of a hostage, playing a role for the hostage taker, China. The sooner the English civilization overthrows these people and the invasive Chinese within our civilization the better.

In other news, you can't call it Asian Carp anymore, its now invasive Carp. I get banned from everything in the west online for stating my honest opinions. Its a shower of brown stuff in the English civilization at the moment.

 

[RogerRanger]

US media and politicians always call China "communist China‘’， do they also call Vietnam "communist Vietnam‘’？

The politicians in the west are more communist than China or Viet Nam. They aren't staying it negatively, they are saying it because they want to be China. China is as communist as feudal France.

 

[xizhimen]

US just wants south eastern Asian countries to be their cannon fodder, when bullets start flying around , Americans will be the first to flee like what they did in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

 

[Saithan]

Which is why the US should allow the Russians to arm nations in the South China sea. Rather than doing it themselves. Its the damn Neo-con's Jewish exiles from Russia who hate Russia because they were defeated by Stalin pushing the Russians into an Alliance with China. And stopping us and them for moving against China in central Asia and South China sea.

Also the Americans are retarded, their entire strategy against China is that of a hostage, playing a role for the hostage taker, China. The sooner the English civilization overthrows these people and the invasive Chinese within our civilization the better.

In other news, you can't call it Asian Carp anymore, its now invasive Carp. I get banned from everything in the west online for stating my honest opinions. Its a shower of brown stuff in the English civilization at the moment.

Wars may cause nations to fall, but it is the migration waves that result in sll these problems. And without solving the root cause of these waves nothing can be done. Giving food to Africa doesn’t solve the problem. Just an example.

 

[RogerRanger]

Wars may cause nations to fall, but it is the migration waves that result in sll these problems. And without solving the root cause of these waves nothing can be done. Giving food to Africa doesn’t solve the problem. Just an example.

Migration is war, they are one and the same. Or in reality given 5th generation unrestricted warfare, migration is just another face of the many faces of the war God. Also how is colonial war, but migration isn't? They are the exact same thing.

 

[RogerRanger]

US just wants south eastern Asian countries to be their cannon fodder, when bullets start to flying around , Americans will be the first to flee like what they did in Vietanam and Afghanistan.

Totally agree with this. The English civilization has no interest in East Asia or Central Asia, let the nations their fight it out and support both sides against each other to keep the war going. However at this point the Americans are so belligerent that they are annoying everybody, and pushing everybody into an alliance with China against the American Empire.

 

[wolveray]

US just wants south eastern Asian countries to be their cannon fodder, when bullets start flying around , Americans will be the first to flee like what they did in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

its china is the one cause major problems.By claiming whole south chna sea you are pushing ASEAN toward cooperation with US.
we got no problem with china and yet you try to bully us.
This is unacceptable

 

[wolveray]

and pls don't talk about historical claim otherwise the mongolian can claim the whole china belong to them

 

[RogerRanger]

its china is the one cause major problems.By claiming whole south chna sea you are pushing ASEAN toward cooperation with US.
we got no problem with china and yet you try to bully us.
This is unacceptable

I had no idea about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Power_Defence_Arrangements until I was following the British carrier group.

 

[wolveray]

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Totally agree with this. The English civilization has no interest in East Asia or Central Asia, let the nations their fight it out and support both sides against each other to keep the war going. However at this point the Americans are so belligerent that they are annoying everybody, and pushing everybody into an alliance with China against the American Empire.

you are wrong .Its china claim that push ASEAN toward US otherwise ASEAN got no problems with china.
We just want trade with them instead china want to bully us

 

[RogerRanger]

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you are wrong .Its china claim that push ASEAN toward US otherwise ASEAN got no problems with china.
We just want trade with them instead china want to bully us

I can see and understand that from your perspective. However from a British perspective, we have Australia and New Zealand to defend. We don't have the capabilities to defend your nation in the South China sea from China. All we can do is supply you with equipment. Or as I would prefer get the Russians to do that. To counter-balance what the Chinese are doing. And yes China is bullying other nations, but Britain did that for centuries.

 

[wolveray]

we don't need british help to deal with china.ASEAN will find ways to find solution to this problem.

 

[RogerRanger]

we don't need british help to deal with china.ASEAN will find ways to find solution to this problem.

Good. That's good.

 

[xizhimen]

its china is the one cause major problems.By claiming whole south chna sea you are pushing ASEAN toward cooperation with US.
we got no problem with china and yet you try to bully us.
This is unacceptable

PRC inherited the same claim from ROC (Taiwan), why you don't blame Taiwan who made this claim in the first place? and today's Taiwan still makes the exact claim as PRC.

 

[xizhimen]

"Taiwan, officially the Republic of China (ROC), like the People’s Republic of China (PRC) on the mainland, lays claim to the same islands, which are also in whole or part claimed by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei.

Taiwan actually controls the largest natural land mass in the contested Spratly Islands, the 0.5 square kilometer Taiping Island, also known as Itu Aba, as well as the nearby unoccupied Zhongzhou Reef.

There is also a hospital, meteorological station, a shelter for fishermen, satellite telecommunications facilities, radar surveillance equipment, and a temple dedicated to Guanyin, the Goddess of Mercy in Mahayana Buddhism.

Chinese fishermen are known in ancient times to have visited the island — the only actual island in the Spratlys, as many would argue the others are little more than rocks, shoals and reefs.

After the end of World War II, the South China Sea became part of China's southern Guangdong province. The Republic of China dispatched warships to Itu Aba in 1946, and since then it has been controlled by the ROC.

In 1947, the ROC's leader at the time, Chiang Kai-shek, drew a U-shaped “eleven-dash line” map around the territory in the South China Sea that he claimed was all Chinese territory."