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I had my reservations from starts, it was to contradictional, just did not fit in.
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Spin Boldak is on the Af-Pak border crossing. Now only Torkham , Ghulam Khan and Gomal remain before Af-Pak border is entirely in Taliban hands. Torkham is very significant as it carries most of the transit trade into Afghanistan.
The British Department of Defense is preparing to recognize Taliban.
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Actually Britain had already recognized Taliban as a legal entity and thus the peace deal we saw between NATO/US and Taliban. This however builds up on that by saying if Taliban take over Kabul they will engage with them as a Afghan government. This tells us that British officials have been briefed on the very possibility of a Taliban Afghanistan in the near future.
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Taliban Emirate flag now flies on the Af-Pakistan Spin Boldak border crossing which has been closed since yesterday. This is the second most strategic entry point to Afghanistan [Torkham in the north is number one] and carries upwards of 30% of Afghan trade. This offers huge revenue stream to the Taliban when it opens as all trucking from ports in Pakistan [Afgh is landlocked country] that cover south of Afghanistan go through here. You can see Emirate flag next to Pakistan flag at the border gate.
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Most of Afghanistan's trade with rest of the world s through Pakistan's seaports on the Arabian Sea and is covered by the ATT agreement. Two routes are used and both were being used for 20 years by US/NATO as supply lines and the airbridge ran over Pakistan. These are -
When and if Torkham falls all 'doors' into Afghanistan will be locked and with the keys in Taliban hands. That will then only leave Kabul Airport as exit/entry point available to Kabul regime.
The two ground routes marked from ports on Arabian Sea with the border points. In the last month the roads along this route had mile long US convoys taking their heavy military assets out of Afghanistan to be shipped out. Pakistan was obligated to do this by 2001 agreement but this now has ended and Islamabad has refused to extend or enter into any other such agreement.
- 1. Spin Boldak which covers most southern Afghanistan including Kandahar the traditional power base of the Taliban. This covers about 30% of trade with other 10% covered by entry points on Turkmen, Iran, Uzbek, Tajik borders.
- 2. Torkham which covers most of northern Afghanistan and Kabul. This route carries plus 60% of the trade and is the most strategic border crossing on the historical Khyber Pass.
When and if Torkham falls all 'doors' into Afghanistan will be locked and with the keys in Taliban hands. That will then only leave Kabul Airport as exit/entry point available to Kabul regime.
The two ground routes marked from ports on Arabian Sea with the border points. In the last month the roads along this route had mile long US convoys taking their heavy military assets out of Afghanistan to be shipped out. Pakistan was obligated to do this by 2001 agreement but this now has ended and Islamabad has refused to extend or enter into any other such agreement.
Russia tells 'hypocritical' Afghan government to negotiate with Taliban
The Kremlin's most senior Afghanistan official accused the Afghan government of hypocrisy on Wednesday and said it needed to start proper negotiations with the Taliban about the country's future before it was too late.
Zamir Kabulov, President Vladimir Putin's special representative on Afghanistan, issued the warning ahead of talks about the Afghan crisis in Tajikistan where foreign ministers from the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation were meeting.
Kabulov, in an interview with Russia's RIA news agency, said that while the Afghan government paid lip service to the idea of talks, it was not doing enough to make them happen.
“It's hypocrisy. It's an attempt to close their eyes to the reality which exists and these are empty words,” Kabulov told RIA when talking about the Afghan's government's stance on negotiations with the Taliban.
“We need deeds.”
The Kremlin's most senior Afghanistan official accused the Afghan government of hypocrisy on Wednesday and said it needed to start proper negotiations with the Taliban about the country's future before it was too late.
Zamir Kabulov, President Vladimir Putin's special representative on Afghanistan, issued the warning ahead of talks about the Afghan crisis in Tajikistan where foreign ministers from the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation were meeting.
Kabulov, in an interview with Russia's RIA news agency, said that while the Afghan government paid lip service to the idea of talks, it was not doing enough to make them happen.
“It's hypocrisy. It's an attempt to close their eyes to the reality which exists and these are empty words,” Kabulov told RIA when talking about the Afghan's government's stance on negotiations with the Taliban.
“We need deeds.”
Russia tells 'hypocritical' Afghan government to negotiate with Taliban
China welcomes US withdrawal as a new chance for Afghanistan, calls on Taliban to cut all ties with terrorist groups.
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Stop making grand accusations, you are coming across as bit of a clown. "did you really think you were fighting the taliban?" That's my point, Afghanistan and the backward ass Taliban are not Turkeys problem or issue.
Not only do i not want Turkey to fight the Taliban a people we have no business with, I'm quite happy for Turkey not to be involved in that mess altogether. Turkey is already engaged military in syria, iraq and libya and tomorrow we could be in war with Greece or another proxy war with Russia. Our plate is full. The Taliban are only muslim on paper, in practice they are exceptionally degenerate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11217772
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yes and they appeared to be friendly with India also.
Taliban Tells India That It Believes In Peaceful Coexistence - Reporterly
Kabul: Amid the withdrawal of US and NATO forces from Afghanistan ahead of the September 11 deadline set by US
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misinformation, the Taliban were never part of the western alliance, it's the mujahideen (which later transformed into the Northern alliance) that is allied with the US.
Mujahideen refers not to the Taliban but the general Afghan militia that fought the Communist Afghan govt.
Taliban: Pakistan cannot dictate to us
Pakistan cannot dictate to Taliban or impose its views on them, a Taliban negotiator has said. Suhail Shaheen told Pakistan’s Geo News that Pakistan can help in the Afghan peace process but can
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misinformation, the Taliban were never part of the western alliance, it's the mujahideen (which later transformed into the Northern alliance) that is allied with the US.
Mujahideen refers not to the Taliban but the general Afghan militia that fought the Communist Afghan govt.
Taliban: Pakistan cannot dictate to us
Pakistan cannot dictate to Taliban or impose its views on them, a Taliban negotiator has said. Suhail Shaheen told Pakistan’s Geo News that Pakistan can help in the Afghan peace process but can
The Taliban were also part of the Mujahideen. I am a Pashtun. You think I don't no the history of my people?
Absolute nonsense. The Northern alliance and Taliban which you forget to mention was only formed after US/NATO left high and dry.
Pakistan will do whatever is in its best interest. No one can do or say anything about that. Not the Taliban. Not India. Not Indonesia. Not US/NATO. Pakistan has learnt its lesson in the past two decades. Trust no one.
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doesn't matter Pashtun or not, you can't change history. Taliban was formed in 1994, while the last Soviet troops left Afghanistan in 1989. So there's no such thing as Westerners supporting the Talibs.
No one is stopping Pakistan to do anything it wants, but do mind to remember that not all will go as much as it whims to do.
