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People are afraid of Afghanistan turning into a religious run state.

To be honest let it happen anyway its a religious, tribal and a conservative society. As if democracy, secularism or liberalism would work at these places. Let them rule by their tribes and clans. Tribalism has been here for centuries its best we leave them with whatever they want to rule.

We gotta stop touching these societies leave them alone just like the Papuan New Guinea tribes.

This high horse bs of trying to save a society from itself makes shit worse.
 

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Is there a time horizon on this agreement?
I don't think there was a formal agreement but just a understanding arrived at in 2001. I think Pakistan is obliged to allow US to withdraw from Afghanistan but beyond that point we enter into new territory.

The Taliban recently warned that anybody providing support to US to continue it's military intervention would be regarded as a enemy and open to response by Taliban. This clearly was a warning to Pakistan.

My understanding is US has asked for military airbase or some form of facility which could be kept lest US needs to engage in Afghanistan again post pullout. This has been categorically rejected by Pakistan. The Pakistan FM stated that it's territory would only be open to use in advance of peace and would not under any circumstances entail support to military attacks. This is great news and I hope Pakistan sticks with this.
 

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TTP mastermind Mufti Khalid killed in Afghanistan:​

A key leader of banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has been killed in Kunar, Afghanistan, On saturday.
Mufti Khalid was a close associate of notorious TTP chief Mullah Fazlullah.
He is said to be the mastermind behind several deadly terror attacks in Pakistan, including those on Bacha Khan University, the 2008 election rally and the Army Public School in Peshawar.
Mufti Khalid was killed by unidentified persons while he was traveling.
 

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"Invasion of Afghanistan cost more than three times that of the military action in Iraq and almost three times as many UK military personally lost their lives"​

Bournemouth MP calls for UK action in Afghanistan inquiry​

By Jason Lewis @JasonDailyEchoCrime and court correspondent
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BOURNEMOUTH MP Tobias Ellwood has called for an inquiry into the UK military action in Afghanistan.
Mr Ellwood said the invasion of Afghanistan cost more than three times that of the military action in Iraq and almost three times as many UK military personally lost their lives.
However, to date the Iraq invasion has been subject to an inquiry and no such steps have been taken in relation to events in the central and south Asia nation.
Speaking in the House of Commons on Monday, May 24, Mr Ellwood, a former army captain with the Royal Green Jackets, said: "Operation Telic, the 2003 invasion of Iraq, cost the taxpayer £8billion and the lives of 179 UK military personnel, and there was a full independent inquiry.

"Operation Herrick, the invasion of Afghanistan, cost the taxpayer £28billion and resulted in some 450 UK military deaths, but to date the Government have not announced an inquiry.
"We now withdraw from Afghanistan just as the Taliban are on the ascent and another civil war looms. That cannot be the exit strategy that we ever envisaged, and we must understand what went wrong.

"For example, why did Donald Rumsfeld exclude the Taliban from the first peace talks in December 2001?
"If we do not understand and learn from the strategic errors of the past, this House will be hesitant to vote in favour of deploying our hard power in the future. Please, let us have that inquiry."
Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said he "hears" Mr Ellwood's request, adding that he knows he recently wrote to the Prime Minister making the request for an inquiry.
"First, there is a stark difference between Iraq and Afghanistan; the article 5 triggering of that deployment and the causes behind it were not in doubt," said Mr Wallace.
"Secondly, as our former Speaker would have said, part of my right honourable friend’s salvation is in his own hands: as Chairman of the Select Committee on Defence, he obviously has significant capabilities and powers to bring forward an inquiry, if that is what he wishes.

"At present, the Government are reflecting on his letter and do not think there is a need for the same type of inquiry that we saw into what happened in Iraq.
"Of course, we do learn lessons; there have been a considerable amount of internal looks by military professionals at what is going on.
"On Donald Rumsfeld and the United States Administration, that is a matter for the US Administration and not for me. I am not able to ask what lay behind their motives as to decisions they have made over the past 20 years and I cannot therefore venture into that space."
 

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I remember some Afghanis on social media threatening Pakistan.

If the Afghan army steps foot on Pakistan it is over.

I think they would be dead even before they reached Pakistan. What kind of idiots would want to pick on a fight with the biggest army in the region also a nuclear power?? Not to mention Pakistani soldiers are better equipped even better fighters than the Afghan army. Afghan army is in chaos and disarray its a matter of time before they crumble. The taliban have already ramped up their attacks.
 

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