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Nobody said anything about "wanting" Russia in Afghanistan

If the situation further detoeriates as a result of the reckless NATO withdrawal it will no doubt draw Tajikistan and Uzbekistan into the conflict. Both countries are in Russia's sphere of influence. Ahmed Shah Masouds son was interviewed on TV yesterday and stated in effect that his men will fight to the last man. He is an ethnic Tajik and backed by Tajikistan.

I can see Tajik & Uzbek forces intervening if Taliban gains control of Kabul & border areas. Tajikstan will most likely Summon Russia &CSTO to help defend it's borders. Russia is already training a 20 000 strong Tajikistan Force who are soon going to be sent to the border.. All these signs point to some sort of Russian Intervention.

The Russians won't send manpower this time but will most likely back up a Central Asian intervention Force with airpower, long range artillery and Ballistic Missiles like Iskander and so forth.

I honestly would not be surprised if the US-Russia agreed on some sort of secret deal like this. Anything to keep Turkey out from spreading its influence.

That’s not going to happen. Tajik can at most protect their borders. Their telation with other nabors aren’t so great that they can be dragged into afghan civilwar.

Afghan might be better geared soon
 

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What was the point in wasting precious lives, time, money to invade Iraq, Afghanistan if you leave without fully eradicating terrorism and extremism? Taliban's rise will sure make things more precarious again.
America doesn’t fight wars to win but to profit like the money the security and construction companies and the military industrial complex got from these wars you can watch the documentary Iraq for sale also just like George friedman the Hungarian American Jewish thinker and strategist said in his book world in the next 100 years that American goal is not to win wars as much as keeping its rivals in permanent chaos.
 

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This is not about training. Most recruits joined just because of dollars with absolute no sense of duty. Training such men will not make a fighting force. Particulary as there is rampant corruption in the senior officers, many of whom are just unifomed warlords.
In Iraq there was officers who register a fake names of a soldiers that don’t exist so they can receive their multiple salaries.
 

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What was the point in wasting precious lives, time, money to invade Iraq, Afghanistan if you leave without fully eradicating terrorism and extremism? Taliban's rise will sure make things more precarious again.

War on terror was never about fighting terrorism but furthering geopolitical goals and influence.

Not to mention it gave defence companies the mouth watering profits they wanted ever since the Cold War ended.

Bin Laden was just a boogeyman an asset to make the world in fear when his use by date has passed they got rid of him.
 

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Boris Johnson announces end to UK military mission in Afghanistan​


Hasty and secretive exit of last remaining troops 20 years after invasion prompts criticism


Troops in Helmand province, Afghanistan, in 2014

Troops in Helmand province, Afghanistan, in 2014. Photograph: Joe Giddens/PA



Boris Johnson has announced the end of Britain’s military mission in Afghanistan following a hasty and secretive exit of the last remaining troops twenty years after the post 9/11 invasion that started the “war on terror”.
The prime minister confirmed to MPs that the intervention, which claimed the lives of 457 British soldiers, would end even as the insurgent Taliban have been rapidly gaining territory in rural areas as UK and other forces withdraw.


In a separate defence briefing, the head of the armed forces, Sir Nick Carter, acknowledged that recent news from Afghanistan had been “pretty grim” but said the Afghan military had been regrouping to defend urban areas.
While it was “fair to say the Taliban now hold nearly 50% of the rural districts in Afghanistan” and that the Afghan army would also “no longer have access to [western] air power” from within the country, he said he hoped there would eventually be peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government.

Britain’s 750-strong contingent, part of a wider Nato stabilisation mission, has been quietly leaving the country over the past few weeks after the US president, Joe Biden, said he wanted to pull out most of the remaining 2,500 US combat troops.
Flag lowering ceremonies have been largely conducted in secret as British forces pulled out, the last of which took place on 24 June, when the union flag was handed to the British ambassador.

Critics said pulling out covertly was an insult to veterans who until now had been denied a final moment. Defence sources said the secrecy was at the request of the US, citing operational security.

Although British politicians and generals, including Johnson, have said they did not want to exit at this point, Biden’s insistence and a failure by other nations to offer an alternative fighting force meant the UK and other Nato countries had to pull out.
Britain will leave behind a small number of troops to support a US-led protection force for diplomats in Kabul, although the Ministry of Defence would not say how many were remaining on the ground.

The RAF may become involved in providing air support from airbases outside Afghanistan, following the abandonment last week of the main Bagram base. Losing easy access to air power is a major loss of capability for the Afghan army as it battles to fend off the Taliban advance.

The Foreign Office also intends to maintain an embassy in its current location in Kabul, although it will not, at least initially, be guarded by British troops. The UK government will provide £100m of aid and £58m for Afghan defence forces.
Carter said that “no provincial capital has fallen” in Afghanistan and that “it is entirely possible that the Afghan government defeats the Taliban for long enough for the Taliban to realise that they have to talk”.

But he admitted that it was one of three future scenarios, the others being a return to the warlordism and a Taliban victory. Last month, it emerged that US intelligence had assessing that the Taliban may be able to recapture Kabul in six months to 12 months after the US forces depart, reflecting the pace of their recent advance.

Carter said that British, US and other troops had contributed to fundamental changes in Afghanistan. “Afghanistan now has a civil society,” Carter said citing improvements in access to electricity, media freedom and education, where 8.2m million more children are in school now, including 3.6m girls.

A third of proportion of the population now lives in the cities controlled by the government, more than in 2001, Carter added, with 10% of the population – or 3m people – living in the capital, Kabul alone.

British soldiers who served can hold up their heads “very high” Carter said and paid tribute to the 457 soldiers who lost their lives over the past 20 years. British army now has a new “combat ethos” learned from from fighting in Helmand. “They were never defeated on the battlefield,” he added.

 

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