Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[Umigami]

Walaupun ga ke Chinese side, Indonesia setidaknya udah keliatan banget bakalan ngeblok sama dua bad boy NATO, Prancis dan Turki.

TAI TFX ?
Gak available sekarang

 

[Lordimperator]

TAI TFX ?
Gak available sekarang

Nambah rafale F4,

 

[Umigami]

Nambah rafale F4,

Tidak bisa dibilang sekelas Eagle, but okay...

 

[Lordimperator]

Tidak bisa dibilang sekelas Eagle, but okay...

Produk barat padanan Eagle apa ya? Yang available

 

[trishna_amrta]

Bentar Bentar, butuh pencerahan.

Jadi setiap kapal yang melalui selat malaka itu Wajib sandar di SG kah ?

Info dari saudaraku yg pelaut sih kapal internasional yang lewat Malaka wajib lapor di otoritas SG.


Kalaupun ada pelabuhan yg bisa dibangun di selat malaka, kira kira potensi itu bisa diletakkan di daerah mana ?

Mungkin yang dimaksud itu bukan Selat Malaka nya, tapi Selat Singapore. Orang sering nyebbut Selat Singapore yach Selat Malaka karna memang jalur nya untuk kapal ukuran Malacca Max yach cuma bisa nya lewat situ kecuali kalau kapal ukuran kecil

 

[Madokafc]

Produk barat padanan Eagle apa ya? Yang available

Typhoon blok paling baru tuh

Sama sama Air Superiority fighter yang dijadikan multirole fighter

 

[Umigami]

Produk barat padanan Eagle apa ya? Yang available

In term of fast big power interceptor, Typhoon absolutely.

 

[trishna_amrta]

Yang Indonesia cari itu financing partner yang bisa membiayai selain deposit juga cicilan selama proses FMS berjalan dan installment proses.

Bukan nya sang Sultan atau bisa memfasilitasi kalau cuma segitu aja (duit kecil bagi mereka)

You can see the latest US jobs rate data, they are under pressure to shown some results for their taxpayer....

Unemployment mereka naik sebenarnya karena pengagguran nya males kerja (mirip seperti di Indonesia juga). Job opening nya nambah kok

Daripada nanti IDN beralih ke F31C kali ya? Wkwk

Yach jauh banget kalau sampai situ mas. Ada juga kita nambah order Rafale

Produk barat padanan Eagle apa ya? Yang available

 

[Umigami]

Ada juga kita nambah order Rafale

Which is good

 

[RadenSudirman]

Bukan nya sang Sultan atau bisa memfasilitasi kalau cuma segitu aja (duit kecil bagi mereka)


Unemployment mereka naik sebenarnya karena pengagguran nya males kerja (mirip seperti di Indonesia juga). Job opening nya nambah kok


Yach jauh banget kalau sampai situ mas. Ada juga kita nambah order Rafale

Basically the same as Rafale

 

[Umigami]

Basically the same as Rafale

No. Rafale has weaker engine, slower, and cannot climb as high, although Rafale can carry more fuel hence better range.

Rafale's philosophy is true multirole platform eventhough that meant sacrificing some aspects of its performance.

 

[ADPrayoga]

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I am steeling these memes

 

[Parry Brima]

Produk barat padanan Eagle apa ya? Yang available

Eurofighter T4 would be sweet. EF T4 - Rafale F4 combination would sound more exotic than Eagle 2 - Rafale.

Germany - France - Turkey pivots sounds promising.

Unfortunately, we "have" to buy from the US.

 

[Madokafc]

I am steeling these memes

Feel free

 

[ADPrayoga]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588754459588694019

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Formilers lagi pada kenapa ya? Saling nge banting dan ngerasa paling bener, yang belum kontrak dibilang udah kontrak, kuat-kuatan info, ribut sendiri gara-gara info/artikel gak jelas yg nggak di cek validasinya, dsb?

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588754459588694019

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588895678927097856

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588894554073489408

Formilers lagi pada kenapa ya? Saling nge banting dan ngerasa paling bener, yang belum kontrak dibilang udah kontrak, kuat-kuatan info, ribut sendiri gara-gara info/artikel gak jelas yg nggak di cek validasinya, dsb?

Cek IP itu dari Malaysia, Philippines atau Singapura

 

[RadenSudirman]

No. Rafale has weaker engine, slower, and cannot climb as high, although Rafale can carry more fuel hence better range.

Rafale's philosophy is true multirole platform eventhough that meant sacrificing some aspects of its performance.

I mean the difference is minor enough and looking at the design philosophy of fighters nowadays, I don't think speed or engine performance is a big deal here. Because otherwise Sukhoi would be considered superior based on flight performance.

We shouldn't go back and forth with too many new things. Rafale, IFX, F-15 EX, that's it, focus on them and make it happen. Mirage, Typhoon, or any talk of more types of fighter jets is silly. I hope policymakers are wise enough to realize this.

 

[RadenSudirman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588754459588694019

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588895678927097856

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1588894554073489408

Formilers lagi pada kenapa ya? Saling nge banting dan ngerasa paling bener, yang belum kontrak dibilang udah kontrak, kuat-kuatan info, ribut sendiri gara-gara info/artikel gak jelas yg nggak di cek validasinya, dsb?

Context?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Context?

Every single procurement, especially that closed enough to be bought i.e. ZAHA & F-15ID but yet sign in INDODEFENCE22

 

[Madokafc]

Land based Brahmos kalo jadi dibeli paling langsung ditaruh di Natuna, soalnya disana garasi Marinir dan Angkatan Laut masih ada yang dibangun sekalian sama gudang amunisi (bunker khusus)

Bakalan kocak juga sih, asset ISR nya CH4 winglong buatan China plus satuan rotasi CN235 Patmar yang kebanyakan make sistem CMS dari Thales, kalo asset penindakan nanti pake Brahmos. Itu bikin networking systemnya pegimana ya??