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Seeing Indos post on PDF about penalizing sex before marriage 🤦‍♂️ .
Also, is this law likely to pass?

Dude sure enjoys posting to himself a lot....and the captive clown choir there.

People like that break under actual fair discussion/debate field....as they are too emotionally invested in their ideology.
 

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Dude sure enjoys posting to himself a lot....and the captive clown choir there.

People like that break under actual fair discussion/debate field....as they are too emotionally invested in their ideology.
Yea it has just become indos show in the indonesian section.
From my limited experience in that section and it has been 2 years since i regularly visited that section, other members like Nike and etc. made that section more bearable compared to indos, I guess those members left since i barely see anybody except indos active in that section.
 

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Yea it has just become indos show in the indonesian section.
From my limited experience in that section and it has been 2 years since i regularly visited that section, other members like Nike and etc. made that section more bearable compared to indos, I guess those members left since i barely see anybody except indos active in that section.

Most that left there are here, sometimes under new (or older) names :p.

Nike = madokafc etc.
 

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Don't know why Harry maguire seems got his magical touch again when not wearing MU Jersey
 

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Don't know why Harry maguire seems got his magical touch again when not wearing MU Jersey
kemarin sebelum ke pildun, permainannya sudah mulai membaik kok, cuma ya di MU ada lisa sama varane, saingan berat. Terbukti di pildun lisa dan varane jadi andelan masing masing negara, klo maguire main bagus di pildun, yg seneng si botak, punya opsi banyak di lini belakang MU, bisa experiment lini belakang, 3-3nya dimainkan, skema 3 bek misalnya
 

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kemarin sebelum ke pildun, permainannya sudah mulai membaik kok, cuma ya di MU ada lisa sama varane, saingan berat. Terbukti di pildun lisa dan varane jadi andelan masing masing negara, klo maguire main bagus di pildun, yg seneng si botak, punya opsi banyak di lini belakang MU, bisa experiment lini belakang, 3-3nya dimainkan, skema 3 bek misalnya

Bukan cuma gua doang yang punya opini soal dia


Prancis versus Inggris sudah kek final yang dimajuin ini.
 

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“Kita sudah hitung bahwa kerja-kerja itu harus ada kerja-kerja nyata. Jadi Menhan itu, kan, targetnya sampai 31 Desember 2022. Itu nggak boleh kampanye,” jelas Dasco kepada detikX di ruang kerjanya, gedung DPR RI, Senayan, Jakarta, Jumat, 2 Desember 2022. Source

If this guy right, then I assume AP next year
 

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So China already capitulate Malaysia, take their MKM, and use them in invasion of Indonesian Island. 🙃

And if there is a Liaoning class, they should mention at least 24 J15, right?
Very possible scenario, I guess we also have to consider the possibility of launching counterattack via landing on Malay Peninsula and liberate them from PLA occupation.
 

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Yea it has just become indos show in the indonesian section.
From my limited experience in that section and it has been 2 years since i regularly visited that section, other members like Nike and etc. made that section more bearable compared to indos, I guess those members left since i barely see anybody except indos active in that section.
Regarding the proposed law, it is not really about "sex outside marriage" (fornication). But adultery that is "perselingkungan", the condition is that when your partner cheat on you and sleep with other person, you can report him/ her, but it is possible to cancel the prosecution in peace, even after you submit the report as long as the court process does not begin yet.

The law also mention that the parents and children of one of the parties involved can also report if the suspect don't have a partner/ divorced, but let's assume it will mostly involves married partner.

Speaking from historical perspective, such law won't be that much harmful even if implemented. First only family member who is also a witness and willing to report, can report. Second, the state is no position to prosecute people arbitrarily, so it's not state vs adulterer, but adulterer vs their family, mediated by the state. Third, people don't take adultery law seriously, or anything personal really, it happens all the time, for example, according to law, alcohol are supposed to be illegal in most cases, but you will still find it in all provinces.

I think personally it is not wise for someone to discuss personal belief and domestic matters in a defence forum, especially if they're under fanatical ideology and also misinformed on top of that.
 
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Baru ngeh Qatar Ampe tahun 2014 masih jadi operator Daimler Scout car, barang era WWII, terus mereka juga make ferret sama Saladin sama Saracen. Sekarang sih pada udah diganti armor mereka dengan barang tier 1 semuanya.
 

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