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Outdated F-15C has AESA and the Japanese upgraded one will be on par with the EX (at least on FCR )
Looking at its weight to thrust ratio, it's better than EX in air combat.

Kecuali EX dicopotin CFT dan drop tanknya.
 

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Btw kendaraan taktis ABRI tahun 60an, kalo ga salah masuk 1500 an unit. Haflinger Steyr puch
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Leo kita benar2 butuh pembaharuan. Mudah mudahan pabrikan pemenang pemyuplai MBT kita selanjutnya bisa upgrade Leo juga.
 

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Things are just getting more apparent each day

China = Paper tiger

Not to be overrated militarily
Nah, kualitasnya jelek, tapi bukan berarti paper tiger, banyak yg impor senjata China, sultan minyak, negara nato juga ada yg lisensi balistik
 

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Kok sedikit banyak penyakit militer Belanda (KNIL) di Indonesia dulu masih kerasa ya sampe sekarang. Under equipped, doesn't have large air force fighter aircraft, doesn't have large Navy especially surface combatant vessels, small armored units composition, small fire power per units, more or less the organizational level and structure is geared toward internal threat compared to peer to peer conflict, there is very small Division level units (only three Kostrad infantry Division and along with three equivalent Pasmar units).

Untuk masalah logistik, infrastruktur, TNI yang sekarang jelas lebih baik, cuma untuk urusan industri pertahanan masih kurang banget.

 

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Rebrand sih gak masalah asal memang local assembly dengan sebagian besar komponen ada yang dibuat supplier lokal
pesennya aja bijian, gimana bikin local assembly, pesennya partai besar puluhan, atau ratusan kayak pesen Anoa dulu mestinya
 

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Ok ini berarti sumber faktanya valid, tapi gak sopan aja judulnya.
Nah, if you watched some of their videos dan judul-judulnya, ini tipikal channel clickbait judul heboh + isinya gk akurat (kalau gk mau disebut hoax)

Ada nyebut Bradley yang mau dikirim ke Ukraina itu Tank peninggalan PDII dan kapal CCG dibilang destroyer dan tentu saja judul 'bikin dunia gempar/tetangga ketar-ketir" lainnya
 

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M3A3 Stuart light tank, pas awal perang dunia kedua sudah obsolote ini hitungannya.
 
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