Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[Van Kravchenko]

Indonesia still has wide margin to be playing at, unless the politician above doesn't fiddle much on political stunts based economy policy just like Dana Desa and 1000 magic cards program

You Know what, I just notice thus programm is ridicullously miraculous. How the hell in earth they have so much money to be put on Covid mitigation, magic & trap cards, Dana Desa, and so on but not so eager in Defence Spending.

Those resources mostly goes unnoticed and doesn't tranlated into real hard power and increasing the talent cultivation too much

Well, yes.
Those money I confidiently say 50% or more has gone to private pocket and less realization. Roughly you can buy at least 10 America-class each fiscal year by using Dana Desa budget alone.

The highest ceilling for percentage of military spending over their gdp is around four percentage in history means the highest ceilling for military expenditure of around 24 to 28 billion US Dollar.

Just realize their Defence budget today is not even exceed Indonesia, but for our case is it right most portion of defence budget goes to salary and maintenance ?

Somehow, I didn't even think todays defence budget is fix. Somehow they just can fetch random billion dollar money out of nowhere.

 

[Lordimperator]

and so on but not so eager in Defence Spending.

Butuh massa buat pemilu...

 

[Lordimperator]

Those resources mostly goes unnoticed

The resources goes noticed thru Istri Kades socialites lol

 

[chibiyabi]

They get F35, U-218, etc..
kenapa insecure...
udah lama mereka ga ada yang nandingi di kawasan SEA, indonesia beli ini itu malah panik.

they do what they must do, masalahnya, resource yg udah mereka keuarkan/ % PDB untuk militernya sudah besar, singapore itu 2023 sudah mencapai 2,3 % PDB, ruang sudah sempit, sedangkan Indonesia, baru 0,73 %. dengan 0,73 % sudah bisa beli rafale senilai 8 BIllion US dollars, apalagi jadi 2 %. masalahnya, fokus rezim ini ekonomi no 1, dan yg dibangun adalah proyek jangka panjang semua, tidak mudah membelokkan anggarannya.

 

[Lordimperator]

proposal to get Four full fledged Destroyer

will they offering to IDN an Aegis type destroyer ?

 

[Parry Brima]

They get F35, U-218, etc..
kenapa insecure...
udah lama mereka ga ada yang nandingi di kawasan SEA, indonesia beli ini itu malah panik.

Who says that they are insecure? They don't have any single reason whatsoever to be insecure of us.

We publicly announce our budget every year. Everybody knows (not just them) that our budget is minuscule.

It should be us who feel insecure of them. Sadly apart from TNI & MoD, it seems that nobody cares.

 

[chibiyabi]

Who says that they are insecure? They don't have any single reason whatsoever to be insecure of us.

We publicly announce our budget every year. Everybody knows (not just them) that our budget is minuscule.

It should be us who feel insecure of them. Sadly apart from TNI & MoD, it seems that nobody cares.

simply logic, small one always afraid/insecure to the big one, even the big only had big bone no muscle

 

[NEKO]

Well we sent bomb to them in the past, and also there was konfrontasi that's why Singapore (and also Malaysia) have the right to be ketar ketir, although our relationship with them is good and very unlikely that there will be a war.
More likely a frequent war on the internet between netizens.

 

[Lordimperator]

Well we sent bomb to them in the past, and also there was konfrontasi that's why Singapore (and also Malaysia) have the right to be ketar ketir,

Also we named one of the surface combatant as KRI Usman Harun

 

[Soman45]

kalo di-pikir" pendapat ini make sense juga, dengan bobot full load segitu pasti harus dipanjangin dan dirombak habis desain-nya (Singapore ada duitlah) atau kalo masih keukeuh dengan ukuran Absalon maka ada resiko overweight kaya kasus Baden-Württemberg class nya jerman padahal panjang F125 udah 149 m dan bobotnya "cuma" 7.200 t, tapi apapun itu kalo kapal ini jadi sesuai kontraknya 6 unit, bakalan jadi mini carrier dan memperkukuh posisi Singapore di antara tetangga dan sulit disalip kalo nggak bener" niat

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640454630294556672

 

[Lordimperator]

kapal ini jadi sesuai kontraknya 6 unit, bakalan jadi mini carrier dan memperkukuh posisi Singapore di antara tetangga dan sulit disalip kalo nggak bener" niat

habis itu tahun depan Singapore ngumumin mulai bikin 3 LHD/JMMS gantiin LPD mereka wkwk, ALRI tambah ketinggalan

 

[Van Kravchenko]

kalo di-pikir" pendapat ini make sense juga, dengan bobot full load segitu pasti harus dipanjangin dan dirombak habis desain-nya (Singapore ada duitlah) atau kalo masih keukeuh dengan ukuran Absalon maka ada resiko overweight kaya kasus Baden-Württemberg class nya jerman padahal panjang F125 udah 149 m dan bobotnya "cuma" 7.200 t, tapi apapun itu kalo kapal ini jadi sesuai kontraknya 6 unit, bakalan jadi mini carrier dan memperkukuh posisi Singapore di antara tetangga dan sulit disalip kalo nggak bener" niat

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640454630294556672

sebetulnya jika galangan mampu dan desainer kapal bisa mengatasi Flaws yg mungkin akan terjadi bisa saja dibuat dengan bobot 10k ton.

Pelebaran dan pemanjangan dari basis kapal yg sudah ada juga possible kok, cuma mungkin tidak terlalu viable untuk beberapa sisi. Mungkin aku bisa ambil contoh Collins class, gotland yg diperbesar dengan ekspektasi bisa sebagai proyeksi blue water navy malah banyak problem.

 

[NEKO]

Gak terlalu bikin ketar ketir sih tapi bikin pengen aja.
Tapi kalo yang belinya itu kita, banyak yang bakalan langsung panas dingin ketar ketir.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640652273264074752

Itali nambah FREMM NG 2 biji
Antrian FREMM nambah lagi.

AL Eropa mulai bikin kapal perang gedhe gedhe sama bertaji ya?

 

[Van Kravchenko]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640652273264074752

Itali nambah FREMM NG 2 biji
Antrian FREMM nambah lagi.

AL Eropa mulai bikin kapal perang gedhe gedhe sama bertaji ya?

Spesifikasi FREMM NG seperti apa?

 

[Lordimperator]

Spesifikasi FREMM NG seperti apa?

32 vls, kronos radar 4 fixed panel kayak di PPA.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1630131704135385088

 

[R4duga]

Spesifikasi FREMM NG seperti apa?

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[Parry Brima]

Well we sent bomb to them in the past, and also there was konfrontasi that's why Singapore (and also Malaysia) have the right to be ketar ketir, although our relationship with them is good and very unlikely that there will be a war.
More likely a frequent war on the internet between netizens.

Malaysia have every reason to be insecure even ketar-ketir of us. Their leaders quality and defense commitment are similar or even worse than us.

Singapore is totally different case.

 

[Zinan 二]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=591664692981938&id=100064152364677

Wkwkw ane ngakak, wong FREMM aja belum di bayar trus AH140 belum nampak batang hidung kok pengen LHD

 

[Lordimperator]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=591664692981938&id=100064152364677

Wkwkw ane ngakak, wong FREMM aja belum di bayar trus AH140 belum nampak batang hidung kok pengen LHD

Udah Anadolu class aja makai TB3 wkwk