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[Umigami]

pengembangan C-705 KAB.

Gimana perkembanyannya?
Ini reverse engineering maksudnya 100% persen kita copy?
Gak ada asistemsi China samsek

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667449403664105472

Yuk dibeli

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667471934395645953

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667471934395645953

Hati hati Bambang kalo mau komen yang aneh aneh soal yang ini

 

[Umigami]

Hati hati Bambang kalo mau komen yang aneh aneh soal yang ini

I don't say shit

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666561762198519808

 

[Madokafc]

Baru ngeresmiin RS apung

 

[NEKO]

Gimana perkembanyannya?
Ini reverse engineering maksudnya 100% persen kita copy?
Gak ada asistemsi China samsek

Kan dah pecah kongsi.

 

[Parry Brima]

I'm sad with current development and massacre of the Leos

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Any rough data about whether it's due to mines, ATGM, drones, etc?

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667679157734760449

Because politic. Qw3 isn't bad actually.

 

[Umigami]

Kan dah pecah kongsi.

Uuh, you know Dahana and Iran seems have anything to do with each other on the surface, but that garuda missile program says otherwise.

 

[Umigami]

Teman baru Harimau, M10 Booker.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667589774113230849

 

[Lordimperator]

Teman baru Harimau, M10 Booker.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667589774113230849

Chuckles "Boker"

 

[Madokafc]

Whatelse thing can be repeat order from China, QW 3, TD 2000, CH4B, WZ 552 APC, MLRS

 

[Gary]

Any rough data about whether it's due to mines, ATGM, drones, etc?

Mines and lancet

 

[R4duga]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667471934395645953

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667536189015080962

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667679157734760449

Because politic. Qw3 isn't bad actually.

I read once that we're acquiring QW-19 Manpads. I hope they buy them in the thousands.

Also unpopular opinion = we should stock 23mm gun from China (possibly in the hundreds), useful against loitering munitions and low flying cruise missile. Ammo could be sourced from ex-WarPac country like Bulgaria, Poland.

I would prefer 35mm gun, but they're much more expensive than these Zu-23 copycat. And we have multiple cities with >1 Million population scattered all around the country.

 

[Madokafc]

I read once that we're acquiring QW-19 Manpads. I hope they buy them in the thousands.

Also unpopular opinion = we should stock 23mm gun from China (possibly in the hundreds), useful against loitering munitions and low flying cruise missile. Ammo could be sourced from ex-WarPac country like Bulgaria, Poland.

I would prefer 35mm gun, but they're much more expensive than these Zu-23 copycat. And we have multiple cities with >1 Million population scattered all around the country.

I don't think any of our branches willing to bought 23 mm ZSU from China after what happened during field training in Natuna back then which resulted in casualties of several operator.

If any of such need arises, they would procure 23 mm gun either from Poland or Bulgaria. Heck even triple gun from Yugoslavia perform much better than they do

 

[NEKO]

useful against loitering munitions and low flying cruise missile.

I don't think it will be much effective if the sensor are mainly relying on eyeballs mk.1, should chose skyshield instead although its more expensive.

 

[Gary]

I don't think any of our branches willing to bought 23 mm ZSU from China after what happened during field training in Natuna back then which resulted in casualties of several operator.

If any of such need arises, they would procure 23 mm gun either from Poland or Bulgaria. Heck even triple gun from Yugoslavia perform much better than they do

I'm aware, but it tickles me with that kind of thinking that exists when a single incident ended up with total boycott . I don't see for example the air force stop using and wanting F-16 just because a few of them had crashed years prior.

I would prefer Zu-23 from China, Poland, Bulgaria or even Iran (if they produce them) and then raise up multiple more Arhanud battallion especially to protect cities with >= 1 Mil pop. Indonesian cities are notoriously thinly defended from air attacks.

I don't think it will be much effective if the sensor are mainly relying on eyeballs mk.1, should chose skyshield instead although its more expensive.

We could opt for OEM equipped modernized Zu-23 like the Plica system or even partner with local industry like Respati to modernize them.