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“The think tank's flagship survey polls people from the private and public sectors, as well as academics and researchers in Southeast Asia. Hence, it presents the prevailing attitudes among those in a position to inform or influence policy on regional issues.”

Good time for US and French for rapprochement with Vietnam. Vietnamese F-16 when?
As envisioned by Comrade Ho

Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei cannot just be seen or considered as ASEAN members, but also part of larger Muslim World (geopolitically).

Israel-Palestine conflict really influential with how Muslim world (people) navigates the world.
This must be huge impact,
 

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China didn't cause much ruckus recently (especially against us) + US keep supporting the genocide against Palestinians people.
 

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Soviet with its conspiracy theory as weapon

“For example, Pacepa and Rychlak write that the KGB facilitated the translation and distribution of thousands of copies of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a forged tsarist-era, anti-Semitic pamphlet that purported to describe plans for Jewish domination of Europe.

The book also alleges that the KGB assisted and trained groups like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in planning and executing terrorist attacks.

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According to Pacepa and Rychlak, Andropov saw the Islamic world as "a petri dish in which the KGB community could nurture a virulent strain of America-hatred, grown from the bacterium of Marxist-Leninist thought."

The magic of Soviet/Russian disinformation campaigns. Don’t underestimate it. What same from Putin and Andropov are both Chekists.
 

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China didn't cause much ruckus recently (especially against us) + US keep supporting the genocide against Palestinians people.
Well, supporting Israel has its cost and this is one of those.

May the cost keep ballooning for them
 

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Oh btw, no conspiracy here, but Islamic eschatology does make clear there will be an alliance between "Muslims" with the "Romans" at the end of time against a "common enemy".

Romans denote either Europeans or Christians. It's actually more closer to Christians. And from the many Christian denominations, like it or not, it's Orthodoxy like that in Russia does have a similarity with the wider Muslim values, such as :

  1. Hatred for the Jew and Jewry world order A.K.A so called rules-based order
  2. Rejection of fiat money to that of the gold standard
  3. Rejection of LGBT values
  4. Rejection of feminism and embrace of Patriarchy
  5. Acceptance of the family role in society
  6. Rejection of liberalism

So maybe the 'Romans' here are Orthodoxy Russia and the "common enemy" is the Jewry that both despised. Who knows.

What we know is that after the fall of Constantinople, Russia styled itself as the 'third Rome'.


If true, that's going to be an alliance, an ugly but necessary alliance.


So if Russophile is a bigger thing than Americanophiles in the Islamic world, that could be one of the reason.
 

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Not related to Indonesia, but quite interesting

Never happened a raid with casualties as high as Mamasapano clash in Indonesia, not in Poso, Papua, not everywhere. Was that Philippines or Afghanistan even?

Operation Enduring Freedom – Philippines before, Operation Pacific Eagle – Philippines right now against ISEA (Wilayat Sharq Asiyya).

IS in Indonesia also part of Wilayat Sharq Asiyya btw, this picture below is their official publication from Mako Brimob Kelapa Dua event with Wilayat Sharq Asiyya (East Asia Province) seal bottom right. And also, kunya of Santoso was Abu Wardah As-Syarqi, he chose that rather than Al-Indunisi. Nothing important, just for entertainment lah.

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Junudul Khilafah dakhil sijn dibuk janub Jakarta bla bla bla
(Soldiers of Khilafah inside the prison in Depok south of Jakarta…..)
Captured MPX in the middle lol
 

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Mantap

Dikira buruh gak bisa ngelawan apa? Mereka punya bargain juga bikin produksi berhenti, bukan seenaknya bos-bos sama komisaris doang. Kalo jaman Gilded Age udah dibunuhin Pinkerton itu buruh-buruh mogok kerja.

Serikat buruh (Solidarity) juga yang berperan besar numbangin rezim Polandia Komunis yang ngeklaim negara buruh-tani tapi negaranya sendiri (BUMN) gak peduli sama pekerjanya. Bukan ditindas kapitalis atau pemilik modal swasta emang, tapi negaranya sendiri yang megang alat produksi tanpa apa yang dibilang “kaum kapitalis penindas”. Sama aja.

“Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost”, said Ronald Reagan. Jangan sampe hak-hak ini ilang.

 

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Err... Meskipun di satu sisi Prancis memang gak ngasih kode "kill switch" Exocet ke Inggris pas perang Falkland, tapi di sisi lain Perancis juga nyetop pengiriman sucad Super Etendard (IIRC) sama sharing data2 intel mereka soal Argentina ke Inggris.

It's so naive to claim any defence equipment we bought from abroad as "embargo proof", btw, no matter what country we bought it from.
 

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Setidaknya 20-30 tahun kedepan aman.

Nah di waktu 20-30 tahun itu ideal nya pemerintah komitmen lagi di program KFX dan komitmen ngerakit KF-21 disini, disamping mulai serius gelontorin dana buat riset sub-sistem kyk radar, elektro-optik, mesin (?).

Industri industri sub sistem nya udah harus ada dulu sebelum mulai proyek pespur mandiri. Pespur ini sebenarnya udah harus masuk semacam PSN jangka panjang.
 

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Now that we chose PPA, I hope that we don't pick Mogami class, both are rather similar in size but PPA is more capable.
If Japan want to offer their alutsista then they should offer something else.
 
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