Even Islamic State caliphs were nominated by Ahlul Halli Wal Aqdi, including well known Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and all caliphs must be from the Tribe of Quraish.
No that's not a democracy. The first four Caliph get their post either through shura or testament/will from previously deceased caliph.
One of the misunderstandings that most contemporary Muslims fell into, me including for a very LONG time is that democracy = shura.
Democracy is a system where it's the people who have the final say (theoretically), a shura doesn't work that way. The shura is basically the elders and the most capable men available to the state to discuss things that otherwise can't be solved by looking at the Qur'an and Sunna. Such as...what to do after the prophet is dead. Because the Qur'an and Sunna never actually said what to do and who to fill the position of Muhammad as a head of state after he died. The Shura council that emerge in Saqifa didn't ask for the opinion of commoners in markets to determine that Abu Bakr would fill the position let alone ask people to vote for it.
In a democracy, even people with no advance knowledge of the affairs of the state (tukang bakso, preman, tukang las etc...) could determine who will take charge of the state.
Saying that Shura= democracy because there's some semblance of vote in the shura is like saying marriage (nikah) is the same as free sex because in both cases there's an act of sexual intercourse. Of course, it's not the same.
Seriously .... Why both of you circling around the semantics ?? Word's construct of the other ??we indonesians do have our wisdom and insight . What we need a consensus .... A mufakat . Where every body make a compromises for the greater goods . Even wills of succesion should be abandoned if the masses are against it .....
Liked or not ...without a majority consent or approval ...nothing would be ever done or proceeds smoothly .
There is no such things as a perfect systems . And different people has different needs and understanding embedded in their cultural psyche . Take a high roads and try to understand people's aspiration and wishes for more . and never dictates your ideals unto others .... Because it only breed conflict and fostering hate between the populace .. always make a compromises for the better ...
I have said my piece ... And count me out of this future mental gymnastics ...
@NEKO ....don't just laugh man . Pass me some of those popcorn here ...

