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Only 2 choices, no more, G7 countries or new pariah state called Russia, no more excuse or what. Eventhough Yellen just spoke about US, but looks like the whole G7 countries would do the same.

We need G7 countries more than we need Russia, too dumb if choice isolated Russia this time. Do what the best for us and others because we are also fight for the whole developing countries to get COVID-19 vaccines that mainly produced companies from G7 countries. G7 has a lot more to bargain than recently isolated country except for its oil and gas called Russia.

The only way to put pressure to Russia is by what the western countries do right now. Still glad the sanctions are not pinpoint targeting to the populations. Target at their commodity that has big percent to the economy, no one buys that commodity because of sanctions, factory or production plant closed, workers there unemployed, domestic consumption decrease because lot of people unemployed, lot of people starving. Tell to the people the only way to stop the sanctions is by regime change. Starving people make a protest asked for regime change. Ended either by civil war or regime change. The end of Putin's revanchist dream. Worst tool on the toolbox, but nothing wrong to have it, what needed are smile, shaking hand and cold-blooded heart.

Edit: one of the worst case scenario else than nuclear option wkwk
 
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Some People said ATGM and infantry is rule the battlefield today and hey along with those Manpads

But they forget if infantry is the most vulnerable ones in the field. The US fighting against hordes of infantry armed with anti tank weaponry like in the Nam by smoking them out with napalm bombs.
Suka heran sama yang bilang era MBT atau bahkan heavy armor in general (including IFV) udah berakhir karena drone danAT-weapon

Padahal di Nagaro-Karabakh dan Ukraina jelas infantri dan truk logistik juga jadi bulan-bulanan drone dan AT-Weapon

Kalau gk ada heavy armor lagi, bahkan suatu militer bisa dikahalin dengan lebih murah, cuma pake HMG aja udah ancur karena cuma punya light-skinned vehicles
 

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"I’ve made clear to my colleagues in Indonesia that we will not be participating in a number of meetings if the Russians are there."

Pftt.... so the US won't be attending any UNSC meeting at all? If the US is indeed won't make any appearance and won't voicing anything and won't use their voting & veto in UNSC forum because Ruski are there then our govt should consider their lobby more seriously if not then just let them be with their "ngambek" tantrum.

AREP TEKO YO KAREPMU ORA YO KAREPMU DUDU URUSANKU!
 

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Suka heran sama yang bilang era MBT atau bahkan heavy armor in general (including IFV) udah berakhir karena drone danAT-weapon

Padahal di Nagaro-Karabakh dan Ukraina jelas infantri dan truk logistik juga jadi bulan-bulanan drone dan AT-Weapon

Kalau gk ada heavy armor lagi, bahkan suatu militer bisa dikahalin dengan lebih murah, cuma pake HMG aja udah ancur karena cuma punya light-skinned vehicles
Yes.. aneh memang, logikanya nggak masuk, sama aja bilang era foot soldier udah berakhir karena tentara bisa mati ditembak peluru/ditusuk pisau.

Kadang suka bingung, emang apa orang-orang itu pada nggak tahu, niat ngetroll or malah mungkin ada kepentingan lain?

Buktinya Ukraine sendiri yg jelas-jelas banyak pakai drone & AT-weapon lawan MBT/IFV Russia, masih minta untuk disuplai MBT, IFV & MRAP ke negara-negara NATO.
 

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Menhan Prabowo Inginkan Peluang Kerja Sama Tingkatkan Kemampuan Indhan​

Rabu, 6 April 2022



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Jakarta –
Menteri Pertahanan RI Prabowo Subianto menerima paparan dari Kabainstrahan Kemhan Mayjen TNI Yudi Abrimantyo di Ruang Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, Kemhan, Jakarta, Rabu (6/4), tentang hasil kunjungannya bersama Tim Kemhan dan TNI ke industri pertahanan di Abu Dhabi, Uni Emirat Arab yang dilaksanakan pada tanggal 27 sampai dengan 31 Maret lalu.

Kunjungan pada industri pertahanan UEA ini dalam rangka melihat peluang kerjasama di bidang industri pertahanan demi peningkatan kemampuan industri pertahanan dalam negeri. Menhan Prabowo Subianto usai menerima laporan dari Kabainstrahan menegaskan perlunya terus mengupayakan menjalin kerja sama dan hubungan baik dengan negara-negara sahabat demi peningkatan kapasitas alutsista dan industri pertahanan dalam negeri.
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Delegasi Kemhan yang dipimpin Kabainstrahan Kemhan Mayjen TNI Yudi Abrimantyo dan Kabalitbang Kemhan Marsda TNI Julexi Tambayong terdiri dari 5 orang dari Kemhan dan 5 orang dari Mabes TNI dan Mabes Angkatan, melaksanakan kunjungan ke UEA selama 5 hari ke Kementerian Pertahanan dan Angkatan Bersenjata UEA dan holding company industri pertahanan serta beberapa industri pertahanan swasta di UEA.

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Hadir mengikuti paparan Kabaisntrahan Kemhan kepada Menhan TNI antara lain; Wakil Menteri Pertahanan RI M. Herindra, Sekjen Kemhan Laksdya TNI Donny Ermawan Taufanto, Dirut PT. DI, PT. Pindad, PT. Len Industri, Pejabat Eselon I di lingkungan Kemhan, Asisten Khusus Menhan bidang Manajemen Pertahanan Letjen TNI (Purn) Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin, perwakilan pejabat Mabes TNI, dan Mabes Angkatan. (Biro Humas Setjen Kemhan)


Lagi bahas hasil kunjungan ke UAE, keknya banyak yang dilihat ini
 

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Apa yang dilakukan oleh UAE dengan uangnya untuk membangun industri pertahanan di Emirates harusnya bisa jadi patokan juga buat Indonesia. Gak maen maen loh proyek mereka, mulai dari trainer/light attacks aircraft B250 dari Calidus, Rabdan 8X8 IFV, Halcon Missiles and guided munition, UAV, CRAM Halcon dll...
 

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Menteri Pertahanan RI Prabowo Subianto menerima paparan dari Kabainstrahan Kemhan Mayjen TNI Yudi Abrimantyo di Ruang Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, Kemhan, Jakarta, Rabu (6/4), tentang hasil kunjungannya bersama Tim Kemhan dan TNI ke industri pertahanan di Abu Dhabi, Uni Emirat Arab yang dilaksanakan pada tanggal 27 sampai dengan 31 Maret lalu.

Kunjungan pada industri pertahanan UEA ini dalam rangka melihat peluang kerjasama di bidang industri pertahanan demi peningkatan kemampuan industri pertahanan dalam negeri. Menhan Prabowo Subianto usai menerima laporan dari Kabainstrahan menegaskan perlunya terus mengupayakan menjalin kerja sama dan hubungan baik dengan negara-negara sahabat demi peningkatan kapasitas alutsista dan industri pertahanan dalam negeri.
menhan-paparan-300x200.jpg


Delegasi Kemhan yang dipimpin Kabainstrahan Kemhan Mayjen TNI Yudi Abrimantyo dan Kabalitbang Kemhan Marsda TNI Julexi Tambayong terdiri dari 5 orang dari Kemhan dan 5 orang dari Mabes TNI dan Mabes Angkatan, melaksanakan kunjungan ke UEA selama 5 hari ke Kementerian Pertahanan dan Angkatan Bersenjata UEA dan holding company industri pertahanan serta beberapa industri pertahanan swasta di UEA.

IMG-20220407-WA0010-300x200.jpg
Hadir mengikuti paparan Kabaisntrahan Kemhan kepada Menhan TNI antara lain; Wakil Menteri Pertahanan RI M. Herindra, Sekjen Kemhan Laksdya TNI Donny Ermawan Taufanto, Dirut PT. DI, PT. Pindad, PT. Len Industri, Pejabat Eselon I di lingkungan Kemhan, Asisten Khusus Menhan bidang Manajemen Pertahanan Letjen TNI (Purn) Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin, perwakilan pejabat Mabes TNI, dan Mabes Angkatan. (Biro Humas Setjen Kemhan)


Lagi bahas hasil kunjungan ke UAE, keknya banyak yang dilihat ini
Looks like Prabowo wanna make the DEFEND ID like EDGE Group.
 

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Halal version iron dome?

Heard the Army is interested with this one

Coupled with issue of they want to have something like new mobile AA gun and adding this sky knight C RAM. Army would have protected their column from some threat including Missiles, mortar/artillery munition and Loitering munition along with UAV..
 

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Apa yang dilakukan oleh UAE dengan uangnya untuk membangun industri pertahanan di Emirates harusnya bisa jadi patokan juga buat Indonesia. Gak maen maen loh proyek mereka, mulai dari trainer/light attacks aircraft B250 dari Calidus, Rabdan 8X8 IFV, Halcon Missiles and guided munition, UAV, CRAM Halcon dll...
Ya baguslah untuk dipelajari sukur2 kalo bisa ya diimplementasikan, tapi perbedaan sultan dan non sultantetep ada, dilakukan apa yg bisa aja.
Ini pasti habis pak prabs turing kemana2 ini, buat mempermudah lampu ijo dari bu sri bisa dibawa isu TOT, imbal dagang, investasi dll jadi udah ga kayak dulu uang selalu lari keluar negeri tapi sekarang ada juga yang muter disini.
 

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Ini pasti habis pak prabs turing kemana2 ini, buat mempermudah lampu ijo dari bu sri bisa dibawa isu TOT, imbal dagang, investasi dll jadi udah ga kayak dulu uang selalu lari keluar negeri tapi sekarang ada juga yang muter disini.
Hmm, this is not the first time the two ministers met in person

Tapi ya semoga pertemuan yg ini lebih banyak lampu hijaunya
 

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Hei recruit you don't put your helmewt strap in place, no meuwre salted fish for you this week. Said Catporal Igor Meuwshkin during inspection
 

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