Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682530367264407552

 

[R4duga]

lets add another salt to our elang hitam wound.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682355061987454981

 

[Umigami]

Kapan yiah?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682714936760487936

 

[schuimpjes]

MoFA under Adam Malik is quite aggresive though

Maraden Panggabean was more aggressive tho lol

 

[Var Dracon]

He's a bit late. The US gov has been studying them probably since the 1950s. Some even obtained from archaeological dig.

https://www.youtube.com/@EyesOnCinema

"American" UFO in Padang, Indonesia, 2009

 

[Ecderha]

"American" UFO in Padang, Indonesia, 2009

" Amazing. Sometimes its like we are in hell fighting the worst of the worst human scum. He,s a very good talker. There,s fear in his voice every now and again. Lucky to be alive."



"In situations like this via explained accounts, you have to abstract from what is possible to what is most likely probable. Do UAP/UFOs/RAVs exist? I think the evidence speaks for itself. If craft like this exist, then some agency or management group would logically be responsible in monitoring flight/location activities. This is to ensure if something unusual happens, it can be quickly contained and the area secured. This in part assumes that these governing agencies what to keep tech like this very closely guarded. That is also a logical and probable. Having advanced tech like this running around earths atmosphere randomly creates a huge security and privacy risk if not protected. So you would logically need a crack team for this. These guys would obviously be highly trained and well geared to protect such technology. Concealed identity for such a group is a result of being part of the privacy and protection from public scrutiny. If not, these guys would be identified as American citizens working for private agencies harassing US Military personnel which if gotten ahold by US citizens would raise serious questions."

 

[Initial_D]

"American" UFO in Padang, Indonesia, 2009

If it's true, what is the chances that the US owned UFO tech started the earthquake in padang, i wonder though
#conspiracytheories

 

[NEKO]

Kapan yiah?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682714936760487936

Kapan yah punya fully enclosed hangar buat lontong.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682883010822303745

Of course GDP percentage is important too. How we gonna maintain those equipment we get from those loans?

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682985930565746688

Jurnal :

Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs

Volume 6 edisi 3, Maret-April 2023,

USAF Relations with the TNI–AU
The USAF’s relationship with the TNI–AU is developing positively, which helping the latter become a more dynamic service.54 Regular Airman-to-Airman Talks between the TNI–AU and US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF) are fostering mutual understanding and ideas for greater cooperation. The TNI–AU has a
higher percentage of English speakers than Indonesia’s other services, which facilitating security cooperation with the United States.
PACAF and TNI–AU have been holding Cope West exercises since 1989, with recent iterations focusing on F-16 and C-130 tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTP). In September 2021, USAF B-52s, Japanese Air Self-Defense Force 15Js, and TNI–AU F-16s conducted joint exercises around Guam. TNI–AU personnel have flown on US Navy 27th Squadron P-8s over the Natuna Sea and South China Sea.
USAF training emphasizes air safety cooperation, including maintainers and
weapon systems. The USAF provides maintainer safety training, and the USAF’s
chief noncommissioned officer has visited TNI–AU squadrons to emphasize
maintenance. The United States also facilitated the visit of TNI–AU personnel to
Australia for flight safety training.
The USAF has subject-matter experts on safety and HADR available for Indonesia, with five C-130Js stationed in Guam as part of the 36th Contingency Response Group. The USAF is also partnering with the TNI–AU to develop MDA, such as providing products from the 613th Air Operations Center, Hickam AFB,
Hawai’i, to detect thunderstorms for the TNI–AU and TNI–AL. Additionally, the USAF is working with the TNI–AU to lead Indonesia’s development of cyberdefense. The USAF recognizes the significant potential for air defense cooperation with the TNI–AU.
Defense sales are a crucial aspect of the USAF–TNI–AU relationship, and the
recent sale of 36 Boeing F-15EXs is a testament to this fact. The USAF is working closely with the TNI–AU to enhance its internal processes for building requirements and streamlining procurement. Lockheed-Martin has been instrumental in sales of F-16Vs, C-130-Js, and upgrades to the TNI–AU’s 33 F-16s to Block 72 capability. However, some challenges have arisen, such as the lack of personnel to perform upgrades and the budgeting and delivery of software and
advanced missiles. To address these issues, the United States has been working to
provide the TNI–AU’s C-130s and other air mobility aircraft through the excess
defense articles program. Differences in financial and reporting systems between
the US and Indonesia have also posed challenges. While US foreign military sales
offer more flexibility in finance reporting, Indonesia operates on an annual finance
system—US foreign military sales are multiyear. To address this issue, the TNI–
AU is a member of the US System Improvement Program and Advanced System Improvement Program, which will help provide greater evidence that Indonesia is meeting US foreign military sales targets

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682985930565746688

Jurnal :

Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs

Volume 6 edisi Maret-April 2023,

Sales F15EX isn't done deal yet, and F16v they said?

 

[Lordimperator]

Sales F15EX isn't done deal yet, and F16v they said?

Mado, if its not classified, would you mind to tell the updates?

 

[GraveDigger388]

For all the flak I often think of when it comes to the US, the spirit and ingenuity of it's people often I admire. Take Corvette, for example. Born out of a desire to provide the people with affordable supercar, those who can take on the European counterparts. And lo and behold, a damn car that always punches above it's weight class. Now look where they are at right now?! A mid-engine, state-of-the-art monster out of Detroit, the C8.

If we associate Japanese with discipline and wisdom, I'd associate these American dream makers with grit and sheer will.

 

[this is crunch]

Kapan yah punya fully enclosed hangar buat lontong.

Hmmm not necessarily though, our submarine dock or dermaga kapal selam, both in surabaya and palu are atleast partially covered from optical spy satellites, plus the roof structure act as cantilever for the overhead crane (only in surabaya)

although im not sure the recent condition of the Palu submarine dock after 2018 tsunamis, i think its poses no harm to the structures.

Even the nowaday Kriegsmarine (not Nazis) left the idea of enclosed submarine base and go full open without any coverage. Earlier Kriegsmarine, built these base, Saint-Nazaire U-Boote base

THEY EVEN HAVE DRYDOCK FACILITY, HOW AWESOME.

and nowaday German Navy main submarine base, Eckenforde Submarine Base

(even ours better than them....atleast..)

funfact : damn so thicc

Natuna and Batam should also be built these structures. Or even better to have something like cave submarine base spread all over the country

 

[chibiyabi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681875202463137792

logic, this two weeks sea weather very very bad. even in banyuwangi there was a traffic jam almost 10 km, before entering the port because the port closed due to bad weather

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683299240829931525

According to the report, the Chinese side sent warplanes including the J-10C fighter jet, the JH-7A fighter bomber and the KJ-500 early warning aircraft of the PLA Air Force and the J-11B fighter jet in the painting of the aviation force of the PLA Navy.

Thai aircraft that took part in the exercise include the Saab JAS 39 Gripen, the Alpha Jet and the Saab 340 early warning aircraft, the Bangkok Post reported on July 17.

Whats the risk PLA studying the RTAF Saab AEW capabilities for other Saab user?

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1683299240829931525

Whats the risk PLA studying the RTAF Saab AEW capabilities for other Saab user?

It will be more interesting if Thailand is allowed to get F-35 and later conducting joint exercise with China using F-35 and even allow the Chinese pilot and technician to inspect F-35 closely.

 

[chibiyabi]

It will be more interesting if Thailand is allowed to get F-35 and later conducting joint exercise with China using F-35 and even allow the Chinese pilot and technician to inspect F-35 closely.

automaticly reject by US

 

[deadlast]

View attachment 59391
although im not sure the recent condition of the Palu submarine dock after 2018 tsunamis, i think its poses no harm to the structures.

The entire wall & shelter collapsed after the 2018 tsunami, too expensive to fix, too risky for sub operation there now (lot of sediment & debris on the sea floor).

 

[Madokafc]

Hmmm not necessarily though, our submarine dock or dermaga kapal selam, both in surabaya and palu are atleast partially covered from optical spy satellites, plus the roof structure act as cantilever for the overhead crane (only in surabaya) View attachment 59392 View attachment 59391
although im not sure the recent condition of the Palu submarine dock after 2018 tsunamis, i think its poses no harm to the structures.

Even the nowaday Kriegsmarine (not Nazis) left the idea of enclosed submarine base and go full open without any coverage. Earlier Kriegsmarine, built these base, Saint-Nazaire U-Boote base View attachment 59394 View attachment 59396 View attachment 59395
THEY EVEN HAVE DRYDOCK FACILITY, HOW AWESOME.

and nowaday German Navy main submarine base, Eckenforde Submarine Base View attachment 59393
(even ours better than them....atleast..)
View attachment 59397
funfact : damn so thicc

Natuna and Batam should also be built these structures. Or even better to have something like cave submarine base spread all over the country View attachment 59398 View attachment 59399

I am not so sure, but in my opinion Patimban, Tegal and coastal area near Demak-Semarang should be more ideal as Naval base. Far away from earth quake activities area, deep sea port can be established here ...