Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

NEKO

Experienced member
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
3,184
Reactions
4 2,807
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Gary

Experienced member
Messages
8,361
Reactions
22 12,853
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Kalau untuk jepang, semua tier alutsista mereka accessible apa enggak ya? Buat kita dan negara lain.
Jepang udah jual radar J-FPS series ke Filipina, dulu juga pernah nawarin improved Soryu ke Ostrali.
 

NEKO

Experienced member
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
3,184
Reactions
4 2,807
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Ada yang tau nama game PS 1 sepakbola?
Opening video ada pemain2 main dikapal / gedung bekas, gawangnya itu lubang ditembok trus jaringnya rantai. Trus lagunya itu numb punyanya linkin park, kalau gak ya cuman instrumensinya pas diawal lagu.
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
NYT article updated Feb. 14 2024, about 6 AM Eastern Time (ETC), 6 PM WIB today.

“……

If the projections are confirmed, Indonesia — the world’s third-largest democracy — will be left contending with a president who has said that the country needs neither elections nor democracy, who was barred from entering the United States for two decades because of his human rights record, and who was long associated with Indonesia’s former dictator, Suharto. The era of liberty that followed the ouster of Suharto, critics say, could now be under threat with Mr. Prabowo’s ascent to power.

The election in Indonesia matters far beyond its borders. The world’s fourth-most-populous country, it is of growing strategic importance to both the United States and China. Indonesia is one of the world’s top producers of coal, palm oil and nickel, and it sits atop the supply chains of many international companies. All of that means it will have a major bearing on the future of the climate change crisis, as well.

Mr. Prabowo has coveted the presidency for decades and has tried on different public personas to court voters. But what finally pushed him over the line was the implicit support of the popular outgoing president, Joko Widodo, whose son Gibran Rakabuming Raka is Mr. Prabowo’s running mate.

……”


Looks like NYT already published its stance. If someone have news subscription from more conservative editorial maybe could put how their stance about it, from WSJ maybe, not Trumpist level conservative still.

Wait for western countries official response now.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,450
Reactions
5 5,263
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
NYT article updated Feb. 14 2024, about 6 AM Eastern Time (ETC), 6 PM WIB today.

“……

If the projections are confirmed, Indonesia — the world’s third-largest democracy — will be left contending with a president who has said that the country needs neither elections nor democracy, who was barred from entering the United States for two decades because of his human rights record, and who was long associated with Indonesia’s former dictator, Suharto. The era of liberty that followed the ouster of Suharto, critics say, could now be under threat with Mr. Prabowo’s ascent to power.

The election in Indonesia matters far beyond its borders. The world’s fourth-most-populous country, it is of growing strategic importance to both the United States and China. Indonesia is one of the world’s top producers of coal, palm oil and nickel, and it sits atop the supply chains of many international companies. All of that means it will have a major bearing on the future of the climate change crisis, as well.

Mr. Prabowo has coveted the presidency for decades and has tried on different public personas to court voters. But what finally pushed him over the line was the implicit support of the popular outgoing president, Joko Widodo, whose son Gibran Rakabuming Raka is Mr. Prabowo’s running mate.

……”


Looks like NYT already published its stance. If someone have news subscription from more conservative editorial maybe could put how their stance about it, from WSJ maybe, not Trumpist level conservative still.

Wait for western countries official response now.
Time itu right or left ?
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Time Magazine.

Btw, NYT not even put words from any Timnas AMIN and TKN Prabowo-Gibran members, they just put words from TPN Ganjar-Mahfud members. Ganjar’s bloc now knew who’s their friend abroad.
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Parties that would be members of DPR that not from TKN Prabowo-Gibran based from quick counts are PDIP, Nasdem, PKB, PKS.

They should be oppositions for the sake of checks and balances.
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
nominasi menhan siapa nih bro?
Kalo bener-bener mau ngelanjutin wakilnya sekarang. Kalo mau ngasih koalisinya jatah posisi; AHY, Meutya Hafid, dll Dudung juga mungkin, tapi gak ngasih keuntungan apa-apa untuk partai pengusung. Bisa partai pengusung jadiin wakil menteri juga sih, menterinya gak dari partai, kayak Wamen ATR sekarang jatah posisi untuk PSI (Raja Juli Antoni), menterinya gak dari partai mana-mana (Hadi Tjahyanto, mantan Panglima TNI).
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Yang pasti Mendikbud dikembalikan ke asalnya, jatah untuk Muhammadiyah sesuai tradisi, Zulhas PAN yang ngasih janji ke Muhammadiyah.

Sekarang Mendikbud bukan dari partai/ormas mana-mana emang, tapi Menko PMK yang bawahin Kemdikbud Muhammadiyah.

Jangan salah, Muhammadiyah bukan partai tapi kabinet selalu dapet. Terus mereka kaya juga, mereka “yayasan” de jure, perusahaan de facto. Jualan jasa rumah sakit, jualan ijazah, kaya bos.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,450
Reactions
5 5,263
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Kalo bener-bener mau ngelanjutin wakilnya sekarang. Kalo mau ngasih koalisinya jatah posisi; AHY, Meutya Hafid, dll Dudung juga mungkin, tapi gak ngasih keuntungan apa-apa untuk partai pengusung. Bisa partai pengusung jadiin wakil menteri juga sih, menterinya gak dari partai, kayak Wamen ATR sekarang jatah posisi untuk PSI (Raja Juli Antoni), menterinya gak dari partai mana-mana (Hadi Tjahyanto, mantan Panglima TNI).
Katanya AHY Menko Polhukam ?
Tapi kalau dia menhan ya masih nyambung sih
 

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,522
Reactions
3 1,573
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Katanya AHY Menko Polhukam ?
Tapi kalau dia menhan ya masih nyambung sih
Walau personally gak suka pemerintahan yang bakal terbentuk ini, tapi kalo boleh milih, Menhan pilih Meutya Hafid aku.

Sipil bukan berarti awam, gak pantes, bukan bidangnya ngurus pertahanan. Mungkin mereka malah bisa lebih relevant atau nyambung dibanding yang background militer pure tentang current world affairs.
 

Follow us on social media

Latest posts

Top Bottom