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Qatar invests in the new Turkish ‘Akıncı Tiha’ drone​



A well-informed Turkish source said that the unannounced visit of the head of the Turkish Defence Industries Corporation, Ismail Demir, to Qatar focused on trying to secure Qatari financing for the development and introduction of the drone project Akıncı Tiha into service.

This comes after Turkish drones performed well in military battles in Libya, Syria, Iraq and in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

The Turkish source told The Arab Weekly that, “Demir carried the details of the new project, which is a relatively large multi-role unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), which Turkey is developing into a sort of ” tank-plane” equipped with various weapons.

Demir met Qatar’s Chief of Staff Ghanem Bin Shaheen al Ghanem and discussed with him an indirect financing scheme through the purchase of a number of Akıncı Tiha drones, which the Defence Industries Corporation has already begun testing with various weapons options.

Qatari sources said that the two parties talked about the , “prospects for cooperation between the Qatari armed forces and the Turkish company and ways to enhance and develop these ties,” without making more details public.

The Turkish source said that Demir issued instructions upon his return to start testing different types of locally-made equipment and to move quickly on the project in order to ensure Qatari financing.

The Turkish Defence Industries Corporation is a major military manufacturing institution under the personal supervision of the president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The company announced that it has carried out successful tests of smart materiel on the new UAV and that work is underway to develop MIM-T munitions, improve the efficiency of their warheads and increase their range.

The two Turkish companies, Bayraktar and Roketsan, are working on the manufacture of vehicles and their lethal gear as part of a programme that is attracting considerable interest from a number of potential buyers.

Military ties between Turkey and Qatar were boosted in June 2017, as a military cooperation agreement entered into effect after ratification by the Turkish parliament and approval by Erdogan.

Under the agreement, a Turkish military base was established in Qatar and joint exercises were carried out.

Turkey presented itself as the protector of Qatar at a time when regional pressure intensified on Doha to change its stances which were seen as threatening to stability in the Middle East and North Africa. Wariness about Qatar’s policies led to its boycott by a quartet of Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia.

The relationship between Doha and Riyadh witnessed a certain degree of detente after the Al-Ula summit in Saudi Arabia. This resulted in a decline in the intensity of the mutual criticism as well as de-escalation of tensions between Turkey and Egypt.

Turkey increasingly relies on drones and considers them one among the most important military-industrial assets that buttress its rise as a regional power.

“Turkey has developed its own domestic drones and has used them to devastating effect in several recent military conflicts: Libya, Syria, in the Nagorno-Karabakh war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and in the fight against the PKK inside its own borders,” recently wrote US scholar Francis Fukuyama.

“In the process, it has elevated itself into being a major regional power broker with more ability to shape outcomes than Russia, China or the United States” he wrote in an article published by the magazine American Purpose

The first large scale use of the Turkish drones was in an attack on Syrian forces that had targeted Turkish forces and killed 36 Turkish soldiers.

The US scholar noted that the effectiveness of Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 drones and the Anka-S unmanned air vehicles (UAVs) was evident. He added, “Video footage showed them destroying one Syrian armoured vehicle after another, including more than 100 tanks, armoured personnel carriers and air defence systems.”

Fukuyama argued that Turkey’s use of drones “is going to change the nature of land power in ways that will undermine existing force structures, in the way that the Dreadnaught obsoleted earlier classes of battleships, or the aircraft carrier made battleships themselves obsolete at the beginning of World War II.”
 

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Dont get me wrong, every investment or order is good. But I just dont understand why a state enterprise product is not getting the same level of support and love.
 

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Dont get me wrong, every investment or order is good. But I just dont understand why a state enterprise product is not getting the same level of support and love.
There isn't any better UCAV than Akıncı. There is not even a second runner with close performance. It is only the top performer who gets favored not the mediocre mule.

Qatar supported Altay tank too.
 

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U.S. really focused on the recovery concept. We are more focused on kamikaze drones rather than reusable drones. We should do R&D for concept like this for Akinci, Aksungur, Anka.
The US sees China as its main competitor and when it comes to cheap, disposable systems that can be manufactured en masse, we're simply not gonna beat China in that regard, no matter how hard we try. So the US military is doubling down on high-tech hardware that is built to last as its main battle strategy going forward.
 

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Qatar invests in the new Turkish ‘Akıncı Tiha’ drone​



A well-informed Turkish source said that the unannounced visit of the head of the Turkish Defence Industries Corporation, Ismail Demir, to Qatar focused on trying to secure Qatari financing for the development and introduction of the drone project Akıncı Tiha into service.

This comes after Turkish drones performed well in military battles in Libya, Syria, Iraq and in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

The Turkish source told The Arab Weekly that, “Demir carried the details of the new project, which is a relatively large multi-role unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), which Turkey is developing into a sort of ” tank-plane” equipped with various weapons.

Demir met Qatar’s Chief of Staff Ghanem Bin Shaheen al Ghanem and discussed with him an indirect financing scheme through the purchase of a number of Akıncı Tiha drones, which the Defence Industries Corporation has already begun testing with various weapons options.

Qatari sources said that the two parties talked about the , “prospects for cooperation between the Qatari armed forces and the Turkish company and ways to enhance and develop these ties,” without making more details public.


The Turkish source said that Demir issued instructions upon his return to start testing different types of locally-made equipment and to move quickly on the project in order to ensure Qatari financing.

The Turkish Defence Industries Corporation is a major military manufacturing institution under the personal supervision of the president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


The company announced that it has carried out successful tests of smart materiel on the new UAV and that work is underway to develop MIM-T munitions, improve the efficiency of their warheads and increase their range.

The two Turkish companies, Bayraktar and Roketsan, are working on the manufacture of vehicles and their lethal gear as part of a programme that is attracting considerable interest from a number of potential buyers.

Military ties between Turkey and Qatar were boosted in June 2017, as a military cooperation agreement entered into effect after ratification by the Turkish parliament and approval by Erdogan.

Under the agreement, a Turkish military base was established in Qatar and joint exercises were carried out.

Turkey presented itself as the protector of Qatar at a time when regional pressure intensified on Doha to change its stances which were seen as threatening to stability in the Middle East and North Africa. Wariness about Qatar’s policies led to its boycott by a quartet of Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia.

The relationship between Doha and Riyadh witnessed a certain degree of detente after the Al-Ula summit in Saudi Arabia. This resulted in a decline in the intensity of the mutual criticism as well as de-escalation of tensions between Turkey and Egypt.

Turkey increasingly relies on drones and considers them one among the most important military-industrial assets that buttress its rise as a regional power.

“Turkey has developed its own domestic drones and has used them to devastating effect in several recent military conflicts: Libya, Syria, in the Nagorno-Karabakh war between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and in the fight against the PKK inside its own borders,” recently wrote US scholar Francis Fukuyama.

“In the process, it has elevated itself into being a major regional power broker with more ability to shape outcomes than Russia, China or the United States” he wrote in an article published by the magazine American Purpose

The first large scale use of the Turkish drones was in an attack on Syrian forces that had targeted Turkish forces and killed 36 Turkish soldiers.

The US scholar noted that the effectiveness of Turkey’s Bayraktar TB2 drones and the Anka-S unmanned air vehicles (UAVs) was evident. He added, “Video footage showed them destroying one Syrian armoured vehicle after another, including more than 100 tanks, armoured personnel carriers and air defence systems.”

Fukuyama argued that Turkey’s use of drones “is going to change the nature of land power in ways that will undermine existing force structures, in the way that the Dreadnaught obsoleted earlier classes of battleships, or the aircraft carrier made battleships themselves obsolete at the beginning of World War II.”

This article is literally quite in low-quality and has presence of typical ego of some people.

Akıncı is not funded by Qatar, but solely by SSB. Qatar is in talks to acquire the system by direct financing (not crediting), they are not financing it for the introduction or development but to purchase.

SSB is not a company but a presidency, Erdoğan does not oversee here but Demir does, SSİK is managed by Erdoğan.
 

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Hourly flight cost of Turkish drones.

Bayraktar TB2: 925 $
Anka: 1.565 $

This is extremely cheap compared to manned aircraft.
 

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Hourly flight cost of Turkish drones.

Bayraktar TB2: 925 $
Anka: 1.565 $

This is extremely cheap compared to manned aircraft.
Max payload capasities even that out. Though still back in the day you had to take off an F16 for the smallest of targets and that would be an insane money loss. Now with the drones you dont have to.
 

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For comparison, hourly flight cost:
F-16: $25,000
F-35: $38,000

Expensive as shit damn!!

As much as I love jets they are really expensive to keep and maintain.

So many worlds airforces got bankrupt because they cant afford jet fighters due to training and maintinence then their jets fall onto disrepair.
 

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Expensive as shit damn!!

As much as I love jets they are really expensive to keep and maintain.

So many worlds airforces got bankrupt because they cant afford jet fighters due to training and maintinence then their jets fall onto disrepair.

Also add the price of foreign bombs. Bomb run would cost at least few hundred thousand dollars. MAM family can take majority of the work load for fraction of the costs.
 

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Also add the price of foreign bombs. Bomb run would cost at least few hundred thousand dollars. MAM family can take majority of the work load for fraction of the costs.

Not everybody has the privledge of affording an airforce.

Good thing that Turkey maintained a good airforce for decades because its really helping its drone program.

If people want to win a war you got to take it to the air and control it.

Aerial warfare is the biggest game changer to war that is akin to the invention of gunpowder.
 
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Expensive as shit damn!!

As much as I love jets they are really expensive to keep and maintain.

So many worlds airforces got bankrupt because they cant afford jet fighters due to training and maintinence then their jets fall onto disrepair.
This is why I don't think Hurjet should become dual engine. The lower the price per flight hour of our training jets, the more experience our fighter pilots are able to get and the better our air force becomes. Experienced pilots are the most valuable part of an air force.
 

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This is why I don't think Hurjet should become dual engine. The lower the price per flight hour of our training jets, the more experience our fighter pilots are able to get and the better our air force becomes. Experienced pilots are the most valuable part of an air force.

Explains why dogfighting is dying off because nobody wants to risk their experienced pilots dying off.

Its all about taking out enemy planes before they confront each other. Explains why long range
air to air missiles are becoming common.

Jets and drones are going to be used as snipers.
 

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TAI AKSUNGUR in the air for 60 Hours.

"Satellite-assisted AKSUNGUR stayed in the air for 60 hours in the last 72 hours and provided aerial surveillance services to the teams that heroically fought forest fires in Adana, Antalya and other regions.

May God have mercy on our martyrs who lost their lives in the fire, we express our condolences to our nation."

 

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Cost of flight hours is only one side of the medallion. Yes by having drones up in the air for bombing missions is cheaper than jet fighters. But to have continuous aerial assets up in the air is invaluable. And when they are cheap too, that is the icing on the cake.
The other side of the medallion is the cost of expendable weapons. Missiles like Bora, SOM and Atmaca are not cheap. Atmaca is over half a million dollars. Bora and SOM close to a million dollars each. Yet KGK and HGK are at a fraction of the above, at 25-35 thousand dollars. It is OK to use SOM to take out a S400 site or Atmaca to sink a frigate. But to use Atmaca or SOM to bomb land positions is bad economics.
War is expensive. We are not a country with deep pockets and endless natural resources. We need to be careful when using expensive ammunition. For this we may think about taking a page out of Israel’s book.
The cheapest missiles are artillery rockets. We have already turned our artillery rockets in to smart ammunition with the TRG range. These with the addition of different seeker heads (yes will increase cost a bit) can be used from aerial assets. TRG300 and TRG230 can easily be launched from f16 jets. TRG230 and TRG122 can be launched from the likes of Aksungur and Akinci.
MAM-L is an ingeniously cheap weapon. But even MAM-L is expensive when you think that a 5 million dollar TB2 is sent to deliver it. Yet the Israelis have developed HAROP loitering ammunition to do a similar job. They may sell it for close to 1 million dollar. But it definitely doesn’t cost that much to make.
Kuzgun is going to be the new star of our armed forces. Cheap and effective.
 

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