Defence Fair IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

[Anmdt]

This seemed strange to me too. I don't know what is happening in cooperation chains of these institutes behind the background but It seems unnatural for Roketsan to develop their own seeker heads for missiles while an electronic and radar giant Aselsan is there.

Could be a misunderstanding bro, probably Roketsan officials have tried to say " RF variant is going to be made by Roketsan" implying the main contractor will be them,not SAGE. The seeker is definitely business of the Aselsan and we can sense the missile will share parts with Bozdogan.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

This isn't good news. Vestel did not attend the fair so Nobody will get info about Kargi drones.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427226486285770752

 

[Anmdt]

I suppose it will take time to develop a multi-mode seeker with R/F and IIR ?

*might be incorrect labelling
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I think block -II and I difference will be mainly about the system architecture, as Roketsan has told. Block-II was told to be SeaRAM equilavent with it's own search and tracking systems mounted on top as SeaRAM. This could imply both of the missiles in development and will be ready to be used in some years, initially it will use ship's tracking systems like RAM, and block II will be entirely autonomous like SeaRAM.

I personally expect both Levent and MKEK CIWS to use same components, driving motors and radar/EO arrangement.In this case we might expect reduction in missile count as in SeaRAM to make CoG and inertias compatible.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427229882405335044

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427229882405335044

Expecting AIP from these guys.

Also of this year is just a teaser for IDEF23, oh boy.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427218270302703619

In regards to ADKG(OPV) looks like he already a glimpse at the model.

@Cabatli_53 , I posted this in another thread too, if you want delete that one.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Ibrahim Sünnetci will reach detail info in fair and inform us about domestic turbofan engine (35000lbf) of TfX (next block will be 40000lbf) to be developed under a cooperation with Ukraine. @Defence Turkey

 

[Cabatli_TR]

@Stimpy75 bro, you should try to get detail info about domestic turbofan in fair.

 

[Oublious]

Expecting AIP from these guys.

Also of this year is just a teaser for IDEF23, oh boy.

Ther is a small poster on the background about AIP. So they are on it, looks like a bit secret project.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Atmaca-Kara



Thanks @SavunmaSanayiST.com

 

[Combat-Master]

Atmaca-Kara

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Thanks @SavunmaSanayiST.com

Mini-Gezgin

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mini-Gezgin

Now i'm wondering about Tübitak sage's stand. I wonder if the Gezgin and the Siper missiles are there ?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Btw, It looks like TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 will be launched from drones too. The situation is getting more and more dramatic for Turkey's enemies.

 

[Combat-Master]

Now i'm wondering about Tübitak sage's stand. I wonder if the Gezgin and the Siper missiles are there ?

Perhaps they'll give us an unveiling like surprise Goktug series Air-to-Air missiles?

Btw, It looks like TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 will be launched from drones too. The situation is getting more and more dramatic for Turkey's enemies.

Ballistic Missiles, good luck to all point defence systems both on land or naval

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Attention to Akya's range

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Atmaca is over 50kg lighter and reach longer than 220km. @Defence Turkey

 

[TR_123456]

Attention to Akya's range

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From 15km range to 50+ km,thats some range.

 

[TR_123456]

Atmaca is over 50kg lighter and reach longer than 220km. @Defence Turkey

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Is this still the block 1?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Is this still the block 1?

Yes Blk-1. It looks like Atmaca missile family will consist of three main missile system.

• Atmaca Blk-1 SSM with Rf seeker
• Atmaca Blk-2 SSM with dual seeker and underwater launching capability
• Kara-Atmaca, surface to surface cruise missile.

 

[BordoEnes]

Yes Blk-1. It looks like Atmaca missile family will consist of three main missile system.

• Atmaca Blk-1 SSM with Rf seeker
• Atmaca Blk-2 SSM with dual seeker and underwater launching capability
• Kara-Atmaca, surface to surface cruise missile.

Arent there any plans for an air-to-ground variant?