Defence Fair IDEF 2021 News & Discussion Updates

[Cabatli_TR]

Arent there any plans for an air-to-ground variant?

SOM-C1 and C2 are air launched anti-ship sea skimming capable cruise missile. OMGSF is naval helicopter launcher SSM.

 

[guest12]

Arent there any plans for an air-to-ground variant?

Is it really necessary considering SOM-J developed for that exact purpose? (Air-to-Ground anti ship cruise missile).

 

[Bogeyman]

Atmaca is over 50kg lighter and reach longer than 220km. @Defence Turkey

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427253332586942469

İbrahim Sünnetçi said that the Atmaca has not mitigated. He wrote with the mistake.

 

[Anmdt]

Attention to Akya's range

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I don't really believe the actual range will be shared in IDEF; this number is still conservative, just not as much as before.
What is point in developing a torpedo if it doesn't surpass sonar range of the surrounding threats?

 

[TheInsider]

"Work continues on a submarine-launched version of ATMACA. ATMACA B2 is run as a separate study from ATMACA KARA. The current ATMACA can also be used against naval targets from a land-based platform."

It will have the ability to be launched from a smart capsule(think of this as an empty torpedo) that can travel to a pre-programmed short distance and launch the missile from that spot. This will protect the secrecy of the submarine.

 

[Ecderha]

Attention to Akya's range

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Uaoo

They wrote before that
Range is 15+ nm
and speed 30+ knot

now diffent values

I bet that aboves are also some kind of (export thingy values)

 

[TheInsider]

Roketsan: SIPER, which will be a solution that will cover different layers in a package..

Different layers in a package ? @Combat-Master

There will be another missile between Siper and Hisar-O+/Hisar-RF
Similar to Tubitak Tozkoparan concept. I expect a missile in lines of 60k feet altitude and 80-100km range.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427247991275016198

Values for Orka torps

 

[TheInsider]

Roketsan: SIPER, which will be a solution that will cover different layers in a package..

Different layers in a package ? @Combat-Master

There will be another missile between Siper and Hisar-O+/Hisar-RF
Similar to Tubitak Tozkoparan concept. I expect a missile in lines of 60k feet altitude and 80-100km range.

 

[Hexciter]

Land Version of Atmaca, Levent Close Air Defense System, Laçin and Laser Guided Mini Missile

16 August 2021

IDEF'21 International Defense Industry Fair will start tomorrow (August 17) at Istanbul TUYAP Fair and Congress Center.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan will also attend the opening.

Chairman of the Board Prof. Dr. Faruk Yiğit and General Manager Murat Iki met with members of the press for breakfast in Istanbul.

Roketsan General Manager Murat Iki announced that they have developed a land version of the anti-ship cruise missile Atmaca, which includes an infrared seeker head, unlike the sea version.

Murat Second said, “And hopefully, we will bring this seeker head to our armed forces the ability to engage ground targets, again without being caught by radar systems.” said.

The system will be exhibited for the first time at IDEF'21.

Roketsan General Manager Murat Second stated that another new product they will exhibit for the first time at the fair is the Levent Near Air Defense System.

Noting that Levent was produced on the basis of the Sungur portable air defense missile, second said:

“There will be two versions of Levent. In its first version, it will destroy its targets using only the electro-optics and radars on the ship. In its second version, it will gain the ability to engage with its own independent radar and electro-optic systems. At the same time, we will change the range of the existing Sungur missile. I hope we will add technologies whose range will be extended and supported by RF receivers, which can follow the target more closely.”

According to the information given by the second, AKYA Heavy Torpedo and Light Class Torpedo ORKA are among the products that will be exhibited for the first time at the fair.

Murat Iki said the following on the subject:

“AKYA will actually be the main weapon of our submarines. AKYA's successful shootings still continue. Hopefully, we will deliver it to our armed forces at the end of this year. AKYA GÜR was launched from our submarine for the first time and its tests are still continuing in the Sea of Marmara. Again, our light class torpedo, the ORKA Torpedo, will be one of the products we will exhibit here. The difference of ORKA from AKYA is that it can be launched from air platforms and has the ability to engage submarines.”

Another new product and this product was developed for the air force:

Murat Second – General Manager of ROKETSAN

“If we look at the projects we have realized for our Air Force, it will be the Laçin weapon system that we will exhibit for the first time at IDEF. Laçin as you know, it is an advanced version of our halberd system. The halberd is a laser-guided munition. A kit that activates MK82 bombs and enables them to hit targets with laser guidance. He turned Laçin into a pilot-guided munition that could be maneuvered in any way in the air. Currently, they have been successfully fired in the F-16s of our air force. I hope we will exhibit them at IDEF. The main feature of Laçin is that the pilot has the ability to control the ammunition after the ammunition is separated. It is a system that allows ammunition to hit the target much more effectively with last-minute moves, especially in areas such as shelters, caves and passages. Hopefully, this will be an ammunition that will strengthen the strength of our Turkish Air Force.”

Among the products that Roketsan will exhibit for the first time at IDEF is the MAM-T missile with a weight of approximately 100 kg, which can be launched from AUAVs such as Akıncı and Aksungur.

The MAM-T is an ammunition with a point strike capability, especially targeting air defense systems, with a range of approximately 30 km.

According to the information given by the second, the first version of the MAM-T is laser-guided, but work is currently underway for more advanced versions.

The studies will be completed towards the end of the year and Roketsan will make the announcement regarding the improved MAM-T ammunition.

And another surprise from Roketsan; Laser Guided Mini Missile.

Roketsan General Manager Murat Iki gave the following information about the Laser Guided Mini Missile:

“Laser-guided mini-missile, 1 kilometer range, very small, mini-missiles. By launching these mini-missiles as a system over UAVs, again with laser guidance, we will provide our special forces and other elements of our armed forces with the ability to hit point targets, especially in residential area conflicts. Our missiles will be guided missiles and will have the ability to destroy any target from 1 km away. Roketsan developed this as a whole system; not just his missile.”

In the meeting, second answering the question of a member of the press about the state of space studies, said, “Actually, our work in space continues at full speed. Our ultimate goal, of course, is to quickly implement the microsatellite launch system, and with it, quickly acquire the ability to place our own satellite of up to 100 kg in an orbit close to 400 km." said.

Atmaca’nın Kara Versiyonu, Levent Yakın Hava Savunma Sistemi, Laçin ve Lazer Güdümlü Mini Füze

DEF’21 Uluslararası Savunma Sanayii Fuarı, yarın (17 Ağustos) İstanbul TÜYAP Fuar ve Kongre Merkezi’nde başlayacak. Açılışa Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan da katılacak. Açılış öncesi Roketsan Yönetim […]

www.savunmasanayi.org

 

[Test7]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425498109522677770

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427264899462438915

 

[TheInsider]

Btw, It looks like TRLG-122 and TRLG-230 will be launched from drones too. The situation is getting more and more dramatic for Turkey's enemies.

Turkish Rampage. It will be a great power multiplier. Fast and accurate.

Bora-2 won't be revealed in IDEF'21 but there is indeed a Bora-2. It is confirmed. Ballistic missiles might be revealed in IDEF'23.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427255799022239745

 

[Abdelaziz]

These projects ..when they come to an end ..they will chang the balance in the Mediterranean dramatically .. imagine that u can build u own ships with their equipments by u own ... No one puts limits for u regarding u navy size and quality.. u can expand u navy as far as u wish ..u dont wait for sales approval of missiles and ammo and u can make a of firing tests as far as u need .. of course with the huge geopolitical gains u will gain .. simply it would but turkey in a very different level .. insallah we will see these days

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427272993257005062

 

[Glass🚬]

If repost, delete.

 

[Hexciter]

Vestel company is not attending the fair. So, no info about Kargı.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427226486285770752

 

[Hexciter]

 

[Lool]

There will be another missile between Siper and Hisar-O+/Hisar-RF
Similar to Tubitak Tozkoparan concept. I expect a missile in lines of 60k feet altitude and 80-100km range.

Is Siper missile system different from Hisar-U or not?

 

[TheInsider]

Is Siper missile system different from Hisar-U or not?

It is about the use of terminology. If you say Hisar-U and Siper are different that means Hisar-U fills the gap between Hisar-O+ and Siper. If you say they are the same, a missile with a different name should be at that product segment.