Live Conflict War in Afghanistan

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Dumb asses getting them selves killed for no reason, IF US AND NATO combined cant defeat Taliban's, what in the hell do you guys thing you will defeat them.
Unfortunately their deluded minds are costing people lives.

Their mind still in 1970's.
The time when Soviet can't penetrated
the Panjshir valley.
 

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You are out of reality, Iran amn Pakistan can acquire any needed parts or whole engines and avionics for IEA airforce domestically or via China without particular trouble.
Yeah, tell me when the US will lift Iran restrictions on their hardware first. As for Pakistan, they have the F-16 which depended on US after sales support which could be in jeopardy if the US detected any smuggling of weapons towards undesired groups. Am sure the wise men in charge would not want such to happen.

See, this is where you're wrong, just because China produces copies or lookalikes of the Blackhawks, doesn't mean that you could just do plug and play with the said components.

If you're really insisting on the Taliban be able to maintain their air force ghanima, well let me tell you this.

YES THEY CAN.

The US had expressed it's willingness to engage the Taliban, on condition that they changed and respects human rights (based on Western standards). That means if Kabul wants steady supply of US goods including spare parts, they have to reform in line with the liking of the West, that means embracing democracy, women in politics, maybe LGBT rights, dump the sharia etc.

Which if they accepted, good for them , they've just transform themselves into the exact same government they tried to topple since 20 years ago.
 

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Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim
& Good day to Other


But a page or two back a guy posted about this same base filmed from a different angle and said some 100's of IEA Government forces were killed and the side he was cheering for AGAIN on the bases of human rights didn't posted any evidence of dead government combatant.
 

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Yeah, tell me when the US will lift Iran restrictions on their hardware first. As for Pakistan, they have the F-16 which depended on US after sales support which could be in jeopardy if the US detected any smuggling of weapons towards undesired groups. Am sure the wise men in charge would not want such to happen.

See, this is where you're wrong, just because China produces copies or lookalikes of the Blackhawks, doesn't mean that you could just do plug and play with the said components.

If you're really insisting on the Taliban be able to maintain their air force ghanima, well let me tell you this.

YES THEY CAN.

The US had expressed it's willingness to engage the Taliban, on condition that they changed and respects human rights (based on Western standards). That means if Kabul wants steady supply of US goods including spare parts, they have to reform in line with the liking of the West, that means embracing democracy, women in politics, maybe LGBT rights, dump the sharia etc.

Which if they accepted, good for them , they've just transform themselves into the exact same government they tried to topple since 20 years ago.
Dude china can deliver more advanced engined amd avionics any time to them for equipmen whcih is in inventory facilitated by iranians and pakistanis.. How hard is to grasp that simple fact?
 

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Dude china can deliver more advanced engined amd avionics any time to them for equipmen whcih is in inventory facilitated by iranians and pakistanis.. How hard is to grasp that simple fact?
oh, don't know China gives free goods these days.

or simply Taliban is having an abundance of money, or China mad enough to be portrayed as islamists weapons supplier. am sure China knows the power of media portrayal after the HK protests.

 

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oh, don't know China gives free goods these days.

or simply Taliban is having an abundance of money, or China mad enough to be portrayed as islamists weapons supplier. am sure China knows the power of media portrayal after the HK protests.

Who said that they will get it for free, talibans are all for fair trade. I have to notice that you have been done unjustice you should act as main actor in movie Cliff Hanger, you hold realy hard on thin thread of yourown argumemtation :)
 

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Their mind still in 1970's.
The time when Soviet can't penetrated
the Panjshir valley.

But they did penetrated there, and what followed is unspeakable.
USSR was the most fierce, barbaric and a beast of its own kind, USSR was on the border.
In comparison US & NATO were very weak in Afghanistan.
 

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Who said that they will get it for free, talibans are all for fair trade. I have to notice that you have been done unjustice you should act as main actor in movie Cliff Hanger, you hold realy hard on thin thread of yourown argumemtation :)
let's say the Taliban finally make a deal with Beijing for the supply of weapons with money from....somewhere.

Buying is one thing, maintaining it is another one, China is not known for it's after sales service. That means back to square one
Having acquired some twenty CH-4Bs from China in 2015, eight of these crashed within a timespan of just a few years, while the dozen remaining examples are currently languishing in a hangar due to an apparent lack of spare parts and after-sale support by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC).

BTW many of Afghan talents and educated have fled or are planning to flee the country. Good luck teaching illiterate country boys on how to read manuals.

and please don't retreat with hypothetical Iran and Pakistani crew, they're busy with their own. IRIAF for example is not in the best shape.
 

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let's say the Taliban finally make a deal with Beijing for the supply of weapons with money from....somewhere.

Buying is one thing, maintaining it is another one, China is not known for it's after sales service. That means back to square one


BTW many of Afghan talents and educated have fled or are planning to flee the country. Good luck teaching illiterate country boys on how to read manuals.

and please don't retreat with hypothetical Iran and Pakistani crew, they're busy with their own. IRIAF for example is not in the best shape.
Time will tell who is right but do not forget we are not talking about hundreds of choppers and airplaines, only dozens. For mechanical crews and technical teams same thing, couple of hundreds personal is not big thing to atract amd organize from regional states. Along time domestic educational institutions will provide needed technical profiles. Chill...
 

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I see many label that IEA got here.
Coward, cave dweller, illiterate, etc.

When you as a superpower country can't win over people like this,
to me, you are even worse.

😄
 

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Time will tell who is right but do not forget we are not talking about hundreds of choppers and airplaines, only dozens. For mechanical crews and technical teams same thing, couple of hundreds personal is not big thing to atract amd organize from regional states. Along time domestic educational institutions will provide needed technical profiles. Chill...
dozens of choppers which has been in heavy combat use by the ANA ferrying troops all over the country before being captured with no one knows how much operational life is left before disaster strikes. I respect all aviators, wish them well. Both the aviators flying for the incumbent and resistance in Panjshir. so much love🥰
 

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About this video :
When you are not smart but pretend to be smart.
Let me ruin some one day & bust their bubble :

1 - NO It's NOT the Pakistan Army under Taliban ambush
- Pak army don't use humvees with desert camo, nor they have any
- This place is not from Pakistan

2 - NO It's NOT the Talidan under North Alliance ambush in Panjshir valley
- Geography is different

AND :
- Video is edited and granulized

This video is from Afghanistan, 3 to 5 years old cant remember, The convey under attack belongs to ANA (Afghan National Army) under attack by Taliban's, But with no drama or bullets coming from thin air.

 

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Or people with common sense who prefer to live in 21st century.

Sharia law is the order of the Prophet s.a.w.
It is relevant to the end of time.

If Afghan want it,
why outsider want to intervene?

Do you want Afghan detect
what law Turkey should use?
 

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Qatar is working with the Taliban to reopen Kabul's airport as soon as possible, its foreign minister said on Thursday, urging the hardline Islamists to allow Afghans to leave the country.

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the urban educated and talented would want to leave ASAP, future is bleak in Afghanistan. Would be hard to maintain the country this way.
 

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Qatar is working with the Taliban to reopen Kabul's airport as soon as possible, its foreign minister said on Thursday, urging the hardline Islamists to allow Afghans to leave the country.

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the urban educated and talented would want to leave ASAP, future is bleak in Afghanistan. Would be hard to maintain the country this way.

Including educated but corrupted.
Yes. Good riddance. 😄
 

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Sharia law is the order of the Prophet s.a.w.
It is relevant to the end of time.

If Afghan want it,
why outsider want to intervene?

Do you want Afghan detect
what law Turkey should use?
Just an answer to your senseless generalisation.
Turkey is good as it is, if Afghans want it then fine but just because we dont want it doesnt mean we are criminal or gay or whatever you might believe, we just have a different world view from you.
What you see as justice is barbarism from our point of view.
 
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