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Israel detail! Guided missile move from Greece in the Aegean​

Greece announced that it will place guided missiles on the Maritsa border line and on the islands. It is stated that the Greek government has therefore signed a preliminary agreement of 250 million euros with Israel.​

05 September 2021 16:56Updated: 05 Sep 2021 16:59

Greece is buying a 250 million euro missile from Israel to be deployed on the Maritsa Border and the islands. In addition to the systems built on the military vehicle that will strengthen the Greek Land Forces (GES), it was decided to deploy Israeli SPIKE NLOS guided missiles on Apache attack helicopters.

DRAFT LAW TO BE DISCUSSED THIS MONTH​

It has been announced that the program for the strengthening of the Greek Armed Forces, which is being implemented, has reached the final stage of the work with the draft law coming to the parliament and is expected to be discussed in the parliament this month.

GUIDED MISSILES WILL BE PLACED ON THE AEGEAN ISLANDS AND THE MERIC BORDER LINE​

A total of 25 systems will be purchased through an interstate agreement between Greece and Israel, to be deployed to anti-tank units, military units on the islands and on the Evros border within the 4th Corps.

THE PROGRAM WILL COST 250 MILLION EURO​

In addition, the number of missiles to be placed on the AH-64DHA Longbow Apache attack helicopters belonging to the Land Forces Aviation unit will also be purchased. The program will cost 250 million euros, and in addition to the system and missile purchase, Israel will provide both training and support. According to Yaşar Anter from Sözcü, the decision to equip AH-64DHA Longbow Apache attack helicopters with SPIKE NLOS was taken at the request of the Land Forces after the Israelis returned to Athens after the demonstration to the Greek officers who went to Israel for a demonstration.

The SPIKE NLOS was originally developed as an anti-tank missile and, after being converted into a multi-purpose Electro Optical Missile System, can be used against a variety of targets from ships, military vehicles, facilities and even helicopters at sea. However, according to the information obtained, it is stated that the version that Greece will receive may have a launcher in every system. Greece is also interested in a naval version of the missile currently used by the Israeli navy.

İsrail detayı! Yunanistan’dan Ege’de 'güdümlü füze' hamlesi

Yunanistan Meriç Sınırı'na ve adalara konuşlandırmak üzere İsrail'den 250 milyon euro'luk füze alıyor. Yunanistan Kara Kuvvetleri'ni (GES)

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[Saithan]

Greece violates Turkey's airspace, territorial waters in Aegean'​

BY DAILY SABAH WITH AA​

ISTANBUL DIPLOMACY
SEP 06, 2021 10:39 AM GMT+3

In this photo provided by the Greek National Defense Ministry, a helicopter takes part in a Greek-U.S. military exercise south of the island of Crete, on Aug. 24, 2020. (AP File Photo)


Greece has continued to violate Turkey's airspace, territorial waters and the status of the demilitarized islands in the Aegean Sea, the Turkish Defense Ministry said on Sunday.

So far in 2021, Greece carried out 206 airspace violations, 27 territorial water violations, 95 aerial vehicle harassment and 790 violations by ships on islands with demilitarized status, said Maj. Pınar Kara, spokesperson of the Defense Ministry.

Apart from Greece's arming of islands near Turkey, in violation of long-standing treaties, Turkey also condemns Greek efforts to claim maximalist maritime territory in the Eastern Mediterranean and to confine Turkish waters to a small area in the south, although Turkey has more Mediterranean coastline in the region than any other country.

Greece maintains its unlawful, uncompromising attitude that leads to escalations in tensions, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said in July as he urged Athens to abandon its maximalist policies and provocative actions while underlining the need for discourse for peace and stability.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu also recently urged Greece to halt its provocations to avoid further escalations and so relations between the two countries can prosper.

Turkey, which has the longest continental coastline in the Eastern Mediterranean, has rejected the maritime boundary claims of Greece and the Greek Cypriot administration, stressing that these excessive claims violate the sovereign rights of both Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots.

Turkish leaders have repeatedly stressed that Ankara is in favor of resolving all outstanding problems in the region through international law, good neighborly relations, dialogue and negotiation. Turkey has also criticized the European Union’s stance on the Eastern Mediterranean conflict, calling on the bloc to adopt a fair attitude regarding the dispute and abandon its preferential treatment of Greece under the pretext of EU solidarity.

Referring to the Cyprus issue, the ministry said that efforts to picture Turkey's presence in Northern Cyprus as an "occupation" will not be able to cover historical atrocities against Turkish Cypriots.

It will not benefit Greeks, Greek Cypriots or their supporters, it added.

Cyprus has been mired in a decadeslong dispute between Greek and Turkish Cypriots, despite a series of diplomatic efforts by the United Nations to achieve a comprehensive settlement.

Ethnic attacks starting in the early 1960s forced Turkish Cypriots to withdraw into enclaves for their safety.

In 1974, a Greek Cypriot coup aimed at Greece's annexation led to Turkey's military intervention as a guarantor power to protect Turkish Cypriots from persecution and violence. As a result, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was founded in 1983.

'Greece violates Turkey's airspace, territorial waters in Aegean'

Greece has continued to violate Turkey's airspace, territorial waters and the status of the demilitarized islands in the Aegean Sea, the Turkish...

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The question is has the Government done anything about it ?

 

[Manomed]

Yes. Martians.

Don't trust your french oligarchs this much It won't end good for the greece

 

[Lool]

The question is has the Government done anything about it ?

The government cant do anything about it for now!
Whatever Greece is doing, it has the perfect blessings from the EU!
Like, do you want the Army to shoot down their planes? Get ready for sanctions, criticisms and ppl saying that the turks are the devils
Do you want the government to complain to the international community, France and the US is doing their job by silencing whoever sides with Turkey
Just remember what happened when Erdo sent his military vessels to the Med Sea in response to Greece's bullshit agreement with Israel

What you guys should do now is act Docile with a few statements in response, just like Akar is doing, while you are developing your own planes and defense system. When such things are done, then you guys can go on the offensive
For now just suck it, time is ticking and without a doubt the final round is soon. Whether in a year or 5, it wont matter. Greece chose diplomacy and Turkey seems to be chosing hard power; lets see who wins at the end

One of the reasons I respect Ataturk is because he once said "Whatever is taken from you by force, is only returned by force" Period!

 

[TheInsider]

I think we should force Greece to spend more on defense while we continue spending on our national defense sector. We have 200 UAVs in the inventory we should force Greece to purchase that many. Force them to buy frigates, submarines, torpedoes, ballistic missiles. Money paid for those is forever gone and added to the debt of Greece. The MOney we paid for our own products turns into jobs and taxes, investment, R&D/technology, and economic growth. This is not sustainable for them.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Two blue beyond the
Mavi Vatan
A P-72 Maritime Patrol Aircraft belonging to our Naval Forces carried out a reconnaissance and surveillance flight in the Mediterranean on 8-9 September 2021 in support of the Sea Guard Operation for Maritime Security carried out by NATO.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1436975570034860032

 

[Manomed]

I wanna ask one question to everyone. In our F16 video , Turkish F16's are block 40 right? They are not block 50 + ?

BLOCK 40 CCIP FIGHTER UPGRADED TO BLOCK 50+ avionics

 

[Bogeyman]

Pentagon wants to deploy the troops on the islands that framed the Çanakkale Strait. The Islands, which Pentagon demands from Greece, is said to be the Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Especially stated that Limni will be used in air operations.

Atina adaları Pentagon’a verecek: Asker getirmek Lozan’ın ihlali | Avrupa Haberleri

Türkiye’ye 40 km uzaklıktaki Dedeğaç’ı Atina’dan alıp askeri üs yapan ABD, şimdi de Çanakkale Boğazı'nı çerçeveleyen adaları istiyor. Pentagon’un yerleşmek istediği adalar Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Özellikle Limni’nin hava operasyonlarında kullanılacağı belirtiliyor. “Gayri Askeri...

www.yenisafak.com

 

[Bogeyman]

Pentagon wants to deploy the troops on the islands that framed the Çanakkale Strait. The Islands, which Pentagon demands from Greece, is said to be the Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Especially stated that Limni will be used in air operations.

Atina adaları Pentagon’a verecek: Asker getirmek Lozan’ın ihlali | Avrupa Haberleri

Türkiye’ye 40 km uzaklıktaki Dedeğaç’ı Atina’dan alıp askeri üs yapan ABD, şimdi de Çanakkale Boğazı'nı çerçeveleyen adaları istiyor. Pentagon’un yerleşmek istediği adalar Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Özellikle Limni’nin hava operasyonlarında kullanılacağı belirtiliyor. “Gayri Askeri...

www.yenisafak.com

@Cabatli_53 @Test7 @Zafer @Anmdt @Kartal1 @T-123456 @Combat-Master @Yasar @Fuzuli NL @Nilgiri @Nein2.0(Nomad)

If the news is correct, the US seems to be intended to stick a Turkish Greek War.

 

[TR_123456]

Pentagon wants to deploy the troops on the islands that framed the Çanakkale Strait. The Islands, which Pentagon demands from Greece, is said to be the Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Especially stated that Limni will be used in air operations.

Atina adaları Pentagon’a verecek: Asker getirmek Lozan’ın ihlali | Avrupa Haberleri

Türkiye’ye 40 km uzaklıktaki Dedeğaç’ı Atina’dan alıp askeri üs yapan ABD, şimdi de Çanakkale Boğazı'nı çerçeveleyen adaları istiyor. Pentagon’un yerleşmek istediği adalar Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Özellikle Limni’nin hava operasyonlarında kullanılacağı belirtiliyor. “Gayri Askeri...

www.yenisafak.com

If this is true,its unacceptable.
Seems unlikely.

 

[CAN_TR]

After the US base in Dedeagac, we can expect such steps. Nobody can deny that THIS is not against us, totally unacceptable, we should further reinforce Thrace and the Aegean coast.

Well Greeks love it when Anglo-Saxons push them into a conflict with Turkey, the tragicomedy part is that after a few past conflicts they still didn‘t learned anything.

 

[Huelague]

If this is true,its unacceptable.
Seems unlikely.

NATO will breaking apart soon. US should choose his friends and allies wisely.

 

[AWP]

Pentagon wants to deploy the troops on the islands that framed the Çanakkale Strait. The Islands, which Pentagon demands from Greece, is said to be the Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Especially stated that Limni will be used in air operations.

Atina adaları Pentagon’a verecek: Asker getirmek Lozan’ın ihlali | Avrupa Haberleri

Türkiye’ye 40 km uzaklıktaki Dedeğaç’ı Atina’dan alıp askeri üs yapan ABD, şimdi de Çanakkale Boğazı'nı çerçeveleyen adaları istiyor. Pentagon’un yerleşmek istediği adalar Limni, Midilli, Semadirek ve Skiri. Özellikle Limni’nin hava operasyonlarında kullanılacağı belirtiliyor. “Gayri Askeri...

www.yenisafak.com

most probably it will be used against russia in case of war or as a surveillance outpost on the passing russian ships since the US now is busy with the chinese theater , so they will secure the west first . at the end , I can't understand the US support to greek but not turkey . Turkey is much powerful in all economic , politic and military thank greek ever will , and the US truly need all possbile alliance to back her up against the chinese .

 

[CAN_TR]

USA and UK have their options, other countries within NATO are just pawns
NATO breaking apart is not so unlikely, we hear terms like Euro Army more and more especially after the Afghanistan crisis but if the French/Germans could manage such a alliance is a different question, AUKUS (Australia-UK-USA) military alliance pact was signed just last week…

The US has a new front, Russia is not their main threat anymore there are even some people in Washington that want to flip Russia to their side against China. It‘s not unlikely that US withdraws the bulk of it‘s troops in Europe and deploys them in Japan, Korea, Philippines…

Let’s say the US build those bases, they will justify it with crap like „surveillance base“ against Russia guaranteed.

 

[AWP]

something else . if this news is true and the US refused to pullout it's troops , the best way for turkey to deal with it by deploying the s-400 at the aegean sea . believe me , they will never dare to use fly the f-35 in the s400 radar operational range. Yes the radar may not detect the f-35 in it's full 600km but the US army won't take any risk to fly it's f-35 into s-400 radar radius.

 

[Nilgiri]

most probably it will be used against russia in case of war or as a surveillance outpost on the passing russian ships since the US now is busy with the chinese theater , so they will secure the west first . at the end , I can't understand the US support to greek but not turkey . Turkey is much powerful in all economic , politic and military thank greek ever will , and the US truly need all possbile alliance to back her up against the chinese .

You don't understand because you coming at it rationally.

But there is an irrational divide in the anglo-saxon head.

Out of dozen or so "WASPS" I have had to deal with in higher tier stuff....for every good+fair minded one there is a foul minded one when certain push come to shove things are brought to air out.

I then see which one gets promoted....its stacked in favour of latter.

This colours all their approach in dealing with threats like Russia and China.

A country like Greece will always be preferred over Turkey in that psyche....no matter what Turkey offers.

Similar thing goes on in other neighbourhoods in different ways.....but that is too long topic to get into.

 

[Lool]

most probably it will be used against russia in case of war or as a surveillance outpost on the passing russian ships since the US now is busy with the chinese theater , so they will secure the west first . at the end , I can't understand the US support to greek but not turkey . Turkey is much powerful in all economic , politic and military thank greek ever will , and the US truly need all possbile alliance to back her up against the chinese .

No!
The US policy in Med East is clear which is Supreme Israel's supremacy.... Period!
Turkey, even if it is a fantic US ally, will surpass Israel sooner or later which creates a problem for the core US policy in Med East; thus, Turkey needs to be contained sooner or later

Moreover, remember Erdo's recent words when he said that the world's dynamic is changing and it isnt under Western's influence anymore; which is normally a sign that Erdo will start to take Turkey away from the West and place it in a neutral position between the new and old powers (if not a bit closer to the new powers) so that they can easily adapt to any change in the world order; something which the US personally doesnt like
The US, as my teacher said before, doesnt want strong allies per say; they want manpower that are not american. They will provide weapons, top class ones in fact, and you do the fighting. In fact, within the USA's vision, this was probably the role of Turkey when it joined NATO; just canoon fodder against Russia.
Now guess who is the best canoon fodder against Turkey would be? You are right, it is Greece

 

[Ardabas34]

We shouldnt allow this to happen. No matter what the consequences are!

 

[AWP]

No!
The US policy in Med East is clear which is Supreme Israel's supremacy.... Period!
Turkey, even if it is a fantic US ally, will surpass Israel sooner or later which creates a problem for the core US policy in Med East; thus, Turkey needs to be contained sooner or later

Moreover, remember Erdo's recent words when he said that the world's dynamic is changing and it isnt under Western's influence anymore; which is normally a sign that Erdo will start to take Turkey away from the West and place it in a neutral position between the new and old powers (if not a bit closer to the new powers) so that they can easily adapt to any change in the world order; something which the US personally doesnt like
The US, as my teacher said before, doesnt want strong allies per say; they want manpower that are not american. They will provide weapons, top class ones in fact, and you do the fighting. In fact, within the USA's vision, this was probably the role of Turkey when it joined NATO; just canoon fodder against Russia.
Now guess who is the best canoon fodder against Turkey would be? You are right, it is Greece

-I don't understand what Israel have anything thing to do with this ? the US already secured israel supremacy by supporting the arab pro-israel leaders + the corrupted palestinian authority , they don't need turkey . Plus even if turkey surpass israel in the regional power it's wont collide with the israeli interest in the region , look at the turkey-israel issues since israel was founded and you will find 0 problems between the two countries .

- you can't compare the nato usage of turkey during the cuban missile crisis with the current situation because during the 60s the soviet union to the west was much much much greater threat than Turkey to greek will ever be . and please be realistic , greek can never be a canoon fodder against turkey .

- I agree with you erdogan must keep trukey in the neutral zone since the new world order would change in the next 10 years .

 

[Lool]

-I don't understand what Israel have anything thing to do with this ? the US already secured israel supremacy by supporting the arab pro-israel leaders + the corrupted palestinian authority , they don't need turkey . Plus even if turkey surpass israel in the regional power it's wont collide with the israeli interest in the region , look at the turkey-israel issues since israel was founded and you will find 0 problems between the two countries .

- you can't compare the nato usage of turkey during the cuban missile crisis with the current situation because during the 60s the soviet union to the west was much much much greater threat than Turkey to greek will ever be . and please be realistic , greek can never be a canoon fodder against turkey .

- I agree with you erdogan must keep trukey in the neutral zone since the new world order would change in the next 10 years .

No again
You see, we humans arent immortal. Lets be honest, while the USA clearly supported the pro-israel arab leaders into power, the people themselves still detest Israel. While now arab states might be friendly with Israel due to its leaders, who knows what will happen 5, 10, 15, or 20 years from now. As long as the people themselves arent hapoy with Israel, Israel will always be in danger..... Period!
A sign of that is the elections of morrocco that happened not too long ago. Just look at what happened to the ruling party; they got destroyed
In my view, Israel (as a nation) has some sort of inferiority complex. Just look at their actions; they get pissed when some1 doesnt recognise them, they get pissed when some1 doesnt give them attention etc..... they are the type of ppl who wants to be the best at everything while at the same time want the whole world to admit that this is their true right and position in the international world order..... it is something akin to the EU masterrace; i-e, Jewish masterrace
I dont have a problem with that tbh, if the jews worked hard for it (whether legally, illegally, directly, or indirectly etc) they deserve it
As i was always thought, the victor is the one imposing the rules while the loser either obeys the rules or is removed. It is something akin to the fact that the victor is the one who writes history or something
I just hope you got my idea