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[Barjo_2]

I think is interesting when we talk about biggest number look like, if we count them as one head instead of to many

Armada Kapal Patroli Laut “Sea and Coast Guard” Indonesia

JMOL. Baru-baru ini Menko Maritim menyatakan pemerintah akan segera membentuk “Sea dan Coast Guard” Indonesia, dengan menunjuk Bakamla sebagai ‘lead’ nya. Disebut juga ISCG …

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[NEKO]

I think is interesting when we talk about biggest number look like, if we count them as one head instead of to many

Armada Kapal Patroli Laut “Sea and Coast Guard” Indonesia

JMOL. Baru-baru ini Menko Maritim menyatakan pemerintah akan segera membentuk “Sea dan Coast Guard” Indonesia, dengan menunjuk Bakamla sebagai ‘lead’ nya. Disebut juga ISCG …

jurnalmaritim.com

Carut marut.

For me, its only bakamla and kplp.

 

[Barjo_2]

Carut marut.

For me, its only bakamla and kplp.

Yup (((Ego anggaran)))

 

[Umigami]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2396630240470293&id=111856582281015

 

[Umigami]

https://www.facebook.com/223363678387101/posts/910635222993273

Udahlah... joint member dan Simp Moona dkk aja...

 

[Madokafc]

Peasant Dog

Boss Cat

 

[Var Dracon]

Sunda cannot build a good naval ship because the lack of quality wood for the hull material, unlike the java teak or celebes iron wood

This is something that cannot be confirmed and but also cannot be denied. Timber trade even with small ship may occur during their eras (even the Madurese still trading timber in 1970s-1980s using their janggolan, leti-leti, and lis-alis). There is just not enough evidence to prove whether Sunda has good or bad naval ship, because of lacking records and archaeological remains. One thing for sure, in 1357 Sundanese ships are already equipped with bedil (hand cannon) and bedil besar (cannon), probably in response to Javanese ships equipped with such weapons, since Sunda is more timid than the expansionist Majapahit.

Baru tau...
Mereka dipakai dimana?

See wiki page for Waqwaq

Yeah some my colleague said their folkore memories about amphibious assault from sumatra and java, dia anak thailand sih, makanya kota2 mereka rada jauh di muara sungai menghindari bajak laut

There is an account of Javanese attacking Chinese city too, and they succeeded (but they are retreated because of winter), sadly I haven't found it again.
Zabag (Java) was recorded attacking Khmer because their arrogance.

 

[Madokafc]

This is something that cannot be confirmed and but also cannot be denied. Timber trade even with small ship may occur during their eras (even the Madurese still trading timber in 1970s-1980s using their janggolan, leti-leti, and lis-alis). There is just not enough evidence to prove whether Sunda has good or bad naval ship, because of lacking records and archaeological remains. One thing for sure, in 1357 Sundanese ships are already equipped with bedil (hand cannon) and bedil besar (cannon), probably in response to Javanese ships equipped with such weapons, since Sunda is more timid than the expansionist Majapahit.

See wiki page for Waqwaq
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There is an account of Javanese attacking Chinese city too, and they succeeded (but they are retreated because of winter), sadly I haven't found it again.
Zabag (Java) was recorded attacking Khmer because their arrogance.
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The later story, that's should be the attitude we should have and strive to achieved. What an Alpha male, remind me of Leonidas reasoning to bring his Entourage to "pleasure journey".

 

[Barjo_2]

This is something that cannot be confirmed and but also cannot be denied. Timber trade even with small ship may occur during their eras (even the Madurese still trading timber in 1970s-1980s using their janggolan, leti-leti, and lis-alis). There is just not enough evidence to prove whether Sunda has good or bad naval ship, because of lacking records and archaeological remains. One thing for sure, in 1357 Sundanese ships are already equipped with bedil (hand cannon) and bedil besar (cannon), probably in response to Javanese ships equipped with such weapons, since Sunda is more timid than the expansionist Majapahit.

See wiki page for Waqwaq
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There is an account of Javanese attacking Chinese city too, and they succeeded (but they are retreated because of winter), sadly I haven't found it again.
Zabag (Java) was recorded attacking Khmer because their arrogance.
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You know angklung? Thai also made it how that can be? By traveling sunda ofcourse there also prasasti state that. So sunda also have a naval trade with foreign and dont be ofended i dont say sunda is bad, they lack of good resourches on good material in shipbuilding decrease their ability in shipbuilding, i dont need to prof my self right. And you may look on open sourches as you like in internet LOL. I dont wanna argue with someone like you anyway. Who need exibited your self very show off from the beginning, doesnt bring any new knowledge for me or joke

 

[Barjo_2]

The later story, that's should be the attitude we should have and strive to achieved. What an Alpha male, remind me of Leonidas reasoning to bring his Entourage to "pleasure journey".

Or pleasure comment sis

 

[Barjo_2]

https://www.facebook.com/223363678387101/posts/910635222993273

Udahlah... joint member dan Simp Moona dkk aja...

Gara2 anime girls und panzer jadi suka dengerin panzerlied om

 

[Parry Brima]

Kemaren : Real Madrid 1-2 Sheriff (klub antah berantah asal Moldova)
Td malem : Benfica 3-0 Barcelona

Kliatannya tanda2x mulai jatuhnya liga Spanyol di kancah klub Eropa.

 

[Var Dracon]

Tergantung eranya, Aceh sultanate punya Galeon ukuran besar, armed with heavy cannon selain itu juga banyak Galeas dan Xebec


Demak juga pake cetbang dikapal mereka, Banten juga. Mataram juga punya banyak kapal

Most of Acehnese vessels were galley-type (low board ship with oars/paddles), but Xebec certainly only used in Mediterranean, not Nusantara. Galleon (naos/navios de alto bordo - high board ship) is only used in 2 occasions: in 1539 and 1581.

Demak juga pake cetbang dikapal mereka, Banten juga. Mataram juga punya banyak kapal

Although Mataram has undoubtedly many vessels, their artillery capability does not seem to be adequate. Almost none Nusantaran vessel is equipped with broadside (massed cannon directed to the side), except European-styled or European-influenced vessel built locally in Rembang and Juwana.

Don't get it wrong, even the Acehnese Cakra Dunia-class galleass were equipped only with falcons (small cannons typically firing less than 4 pound shot, the word also refers to native swivel guns such as cetbang, rentaka, and lela) in their sides: Their heavy weaponry were placed in the bow and stern, the same as European or Turkish galleasses.

You know angklung? Thai also made it how that can be? By traveling sunda ofcourse there also prasasti state that. So sunda also have a naval trade with foreign and dont be ofended i dont say sunda is bad, they lack of good resourches on good material in shipbuilding decrease their ability in shipbuilding, i dont need to prof my self right. And you may look on open sourches as you like in internet LOL. I dont wanna argue with someone like you anyway. Who need exibited your self very show off from the beginning, doesnt bring any new knowledge for me or joke

Likewise

 

[NEKO]

Peasant Dog

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Boss Cat

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What a boss.

Zabag (Java) was recorded attacking Khmer because their arrogance

Sigma grindset.

Beta king: want the head of the sigma king on a plate.
Sigma king: go on pleasure trip and bring home the decapitated head of the beta king and put it on a plate.

 

[JATOSINT]

You know why we reposted it:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1263308881368768512

 

[Madokafc]

You know why we reposted it:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1263308881368768512

G 30 S

 

[JATOSINT]

Entah kenapa sedang banyak bencana/krisis di benua sebelah

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443570726955409411

 

[NEKO]

Entah kenapa sedang banyak bencana/krisis di benua sebelah

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443570726955409411

Kalau terjadinya dimari bakalan rame.
"Cuman ngedarin BBM aja harus pake TNI"

Gegara Brexit sih

 

[Madokafc]

Entah kenapa sedang banyak bencana/krisis di benua sebelah

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443570726955409411

dwi fungsi red coats?

 

[JATOSINT]

Kalau terjadinya dimari bakalan rame.
"Cuman ngedarin BBM aja harus pake TNI"

Gegara Brexit sih

dwi fungsi red coats?

We should send our Supir pantura and lintas sumatra there

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