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[Abdelaziz]

According to some sources ANKA-A have fired Cirit in 2013. Recently they were advertising ANKA-S with 4xCirit and 2xUMTAS.

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Mam-c is cirit without a rocket engine ..so its lighter .. so no need to use cirit as mam-c acheive the same range and the rocket propulsion is replaced by free fall

 

[TheInsider]

New Anka will be able to carry 4x Kuzgun mini-cruise missiles this one hell of a beast.

 

[Saithan]

Mam-c is cirit without a rocket engine ..so its lighter .. so no need to use cirit as mam-c acheive the same range and the rocket propulsion is replaced by free fall

The reason I asked was because it was listed on wiki, but lately we’ve talked about using UAV/UCAV in A2A encounters, in that regard it’d be good to have a drone hunter up in the sky. Although speed isn’t high being capable of hunting targets is still important. To that end even cirits could be useful against other drones.

 

[Abdelaziz]

The reason I asked was because it was listed on wiki, but lately we’ve talked about using UAV/UCAV in A2A encounters, in that regard it’d be good to have a drone hunter up in the sky. Although speed isn’t high being capable of hunting targets is still important. To that end even cirits could be useful against other drones.

Cirit is a laser guided missile without enough maneuverability !! No way it could be used as a2a !! This is sungur's role ? Sungur if is thrown from uavs can reach 15-20 km rang and would be perfect for uavs imo

 

[Saithan]

Cirit is a laser guided missile without enough maneuverability !! No way it could be used as a2a !! This is sungur's role ? Sungur if is thrown from uavs can reach 15-20 km rang and would be perfect for uavs imo

But that is surely only True if UAV have same sensors and arrays against enemies in the sky As regular jets.

 

[Abdelaziz]

But that is surely only True if UAV have same sensors and arrays against enemies in the sky As regular jets.

Sungur's type missiles need only thermal camera ..no radars required

 

[Fuzuli NL]

HAVELSAN BAHA

 

[Abdelaziz]

HAVELSAN BAHA

Good effort but Baykar DIHA is far better in all aspects ..150km rang vs 10km ..9k altitude vs 7.5

 

[TheInsider]

Good effort but Baykar DIHA is far better in all aspects ..150km rang vs 10km ..9k altitude vs 7.5

You are comparing apples with oranges.

 

[Abdelaziz]

You are comparing apples with oranges.

They belong to the same category

 

[Anmdt]

Sungur's type missiles need only thermal camera ..no radars required

Some armies are so dumb they couple VSHORAD missiles with simple radars right?
For aerial launches it is right, for land-based applications a radar is a must to ensure which direction missile will be fired.

 

[Abdelaziz]

Some armies are so dumb they couple VSHORAD missiles with simple radars right?
For aerial launches it is right, for land-based applications a radar is a must to ensure which direction missile will be fired.

Radars enhance the accuracy and the range but is not a must

 

[TheInsider]

They belong to the same category

No, they do not.

 

[Abdelaziz]

No, they do not.

Why ? What is the difference ?

 

[TheInsider]

The biggest difference is the engine. Havelsan UAV has an electrical engine and an endurance of around 2-2.5 hours. Baykar DIHA has a 2 stroke combustion engine.

 

[Ardabas34]

The biggest difference is the engine. Havelsan UAV has an electrical engine and an endurance of around 2-2.5 hours. Baykar DIHA has a 2 stroke combustion engine.

What missions are each systems preferred for?

 

[Abdelaziz]

The biggest difference is the engine. Havelsan UAV has an electrical engine and an endurance of around 2-2.5 hours. Baykar DIHA has a 2 stroke combustion engine.

This doesnt make them two different categories .. both have the same MTOW which is 30kg ..the same payload~5kg .. so if they gonna compete for a tender ... Baykars will easily beat it .. the rang is very important here

 

[Abdelaziz]

But still excited to see the operation system that havelsan made for uavs "giving the fact that its a software company"

 

[TheInsider]

What if the tender you speak of states electrical propulsion as a requirement. Electrical propulsion has its own advantages. Havelsan UAV is developed for specific needs. Baykar DIHA will be used on ships and artillery batteries that need more range. Havelsan BAHA will be mostly used by infantry units for short-range recon missions. It is silent it has no IR signature and it is cheaper it doesn't need maintenance. It is stationed between Baykar mini UAV and Baykar DIHA.

 

[Kartal1]

Sungur's type missiles need only thermal camera ..no radars required

And here it comes the launcher of Sungur which is reportedly capable to launch Cirit as well