TR Air Defence Programs

[Agha Sher]

Here's a Human @aniIsahin for scale
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The most beautiful missile I've seen

 

[Tornadoss]

While the sungur missile is spoken, we have seen it on an integrated launcher on a BMC vehicle

The question may have already been asked, would it not handy to integrate the Sungur on the Korkut system?

Indeed having a vehicle just for 4 Sungur not economical. they should be combined.

 

[Turko]

Indeed having a vehicle just for 4 Sungur not economical. they should be combined.

But having 4 SUNGUR is totally economic for naval vessels.
İ can't help dreaming the pod is combined with radar so you will have cheap RAM. SUNGUR with its new-gen seeker, range and warhead weight much more than STINGER. İ believe it can engage a cruise missile with descent radar.

Also it's very compact for little patrol boats.

 

[Saithan]

But having 4 SUNGUR is totally economic for naval vessels.
İ can't help dreaming the pod is combined with radar so you will have cheap RAM. SUNGUR with its new-gen seeker, range and warhead weight much more than STINGER. İ believe it can engage a cruise missile with descent radar.

Also it's very compact for little patrol boats.

But with nicer looking launchers right like the Levent.

 

[Turko]

But with nicer looking launchers right like the Levent.

LEVENT must be too heavier and bulkier for little vessels comparing this variant.

 

[Turko]

Here's a Human @aniIsahin for scale
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Up up up

 

[Abdelaziz]

While the sungur missile is spoken, we have seen it on an integrated launcher on a BMC vehicle

The question may have already been asked, would it not handy to integrate the Sungur on the Korkut system?

But the kirpi mounted configuration is simple and more economic .. it could be added to korkut but korkut is composed of 3 vehicles ... So i many missions the one vehicle system would be preferred

 

[Manomed]

While the sungur missile is spoken, we have seen it on an integrated launcher on a BMC vehicle

The question may have already been asked, would it not handy to integrate the Sungur on the Korkut system?

BMC has to get some money from the goverment thats why lol

 

[Combat-Master]

Prof.Demir - The conditions set by the USA for the Patriot Air Defence System were unacceptable. They drew some red lines and did not take a step back.

That is, you cannot test the system in peacetime. There were also conditions far beyond that.

In a second stage, an offer was requested again. It was given too late and again on very advanced terms. This needs to be well understood by the public, yes, there was a Patriot offer, but it was not acceptable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445446735975702542

 

[Merzifonlu]

"To be, or not to be, that is the question!"

 

[Cabatli_TR]

SSB İsmail Demir: Three years ago, we did not have a domestic air system. We currently have 4 systems, there will be 5. It will be 6 when the Siper comes.

 

[Huelague]

While the sungur missile is spoken, we have seen it on an integrated launcher on a BMC vehicle

The question may have already been asked, would it not handy to integrate the Sungur on the Korkut system?

Panzir like system, yes.

 

[Manomed]

Prof.Demir - The conditions set by the USA for the Patriot Air Defence System were unacceptable. They drew some red lines and did not take a step back.

That is, you cannot test the system in peacetime. There were also conditions far beyond that.

In a second stage, an offer was requested again. It was given too late and again on very advanced terms. This needs to be well understood by the public, yes, there was a Patriot offer, but it was not acceptable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445446735975702542

S400 was not diffrent either shouldn't have bought none and work on our own systems

 

[Ecderha]

Prof.Demir - The conditions set by the USA for the Patriot Air Defence System were unacceptable. They drew some red lines and did not take a step back.

That is, you cannot test the system in peacetime. There were also conditions far beyond that.

In a second stage, an offer was requested again. It was given too late and again on very advanced terms. This needs to be well understood by the public, yes, there was a Patriot offer, but it was not acceptable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445446735975702542

As I said people DOS NOT UNDERSTAND that usa is already doing everthing using every sitatuion to HARM TURKIYE.
I am happy that Turkiye DID NOT got this "Shity toys" ( Troy horses -> F-35, Patrion, etc.) which DOES NOT give a Turkiye ANY POSTIVE advantage.

But we have people here Turks which keep Living in some kind of Dream state that above systems will add more to TSK.
Dreaming (how good will be if Turkiye have psudo allies toys) and Reality is a difference between a KID and matured MEN which know what is the history of dealing with psudo ally usa.

 

[Manomed]

As I said people DOS NOT UNDERSTAND that usa is already doing everthing using every sitatuion to HARM TURKIYE.
I am happy that Turkiye DID NOT got this "Shity toys" ( Troy horses -> F-35, Patrion, etc.) which DOES NOT give a Turkiye ANY POSTIVE advantage.

But we have people here Turks which keep Living in some kind of Dream state that above systems will add more to TSK.
Dreaming (how good will be if Turkiye have psudo allies toys) and Reality is a difference between a KID and matured MEN which know what is the history of dealing with psudo ally usa.

We got the russian equivilant of the trojan horse tho S400

 

[Ecderha]

S400 was not diffrent either shouldn't have bought none and work on our own systems

You did not undestand the situation back then and it is still valid in present days "about Why Turkiye bought s-400 and why it is Realy will work Fine against psudo ally usa"

you just comapring as it is the same thing IT IS NOT

 

[Saithan]

Relax mate. No one here believes that US is an ally. It’s convenient relation. F35 is a nice piece of tech, but if you’re not allies then it’s a liability.

we should play nice, but always keep our own interest close to heart, problem is our government has messed up the economy and aren’t interested in fixing it because RTE is no longer of sound mind.

Our trust lies with defense sector and TSK. My only worry is that the government can sell whatever secrets they want and pick whatever company they want for their corruption.

we can only hope the real patriots stick in keep their head low and serve and keep serving after government changes.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Türkiye'nin 100 km menzilli hava savunma sistemi 1.5 yıl sonra hazır olacak

SİPER hava savunma füze sisteminden sonra ise S-400 tarzı bir bölgesel hava savunma füze sisteminin geleceğini açıkladı.

www.defenceturk.net

Mr Demir has made some important points regarding our air defence program.
In his speech he has pointed out that an effective air defence system is a layered system. Hence al layers will have to become operational in stages. “Three years ago when we had no air defence structure, we first activated our Korkut for very short range. Then, last year, we made Sungur operational. This is a system that can be used as portable or fired from vehicles/platforms with an effective altitude of 4km and range of 8km. Then by increasing effective altitude and range we introduced Hisar-A+ System. Recently we exercised an autonomous firing test of this missile system. This was done with no human element in the chain. The system recognised the threat, and eliminated it by itself. This is a noteworthy capability in itself. Following this we have developed the Hisar O+. This system will have an effective altitude of 10 km and around 25km of range. Afterwards, before the high altitude air defence system “Siper”, we are expecting an intermediate transitional product with an effective altitude and range of 20km and 100km respectively , to be operational. Then finally Siper will show itself. In other words, this is a journey whereby we are climbing the steps one at a time. We add each parameter of preceding system on to the next one and applying what we have learnt in previous systems. We are expecting to make Siper operational before the end of 2023.”

 

[Cabatli_TR]

"Then by increasing effective altitude and range we introduced Hisar-A+ System. Recently we exercised an autonomous firing test of this missile system. This was done with no human element in the chain. The system recognised the threat, and eliminated it by itself. This is a noteworthy capability in itself."

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Layerer air defence as a structure seems
Solid! Good choice. How does the americans structure their air defence system?