Defence Q&A Which country has the best units in each category?

[FiReFTW]

Just wondering what you would say which country has the best certain unit types?

For example:

Main battle tanks
Self P. Artillery
Rocket Artillery
Armored Vehicles
Anti air vehicles

Attack Helicopters
Attack aircraft
Fighter aircraft
Bombers

Aircraft Carriers
Cruisers/Destroyers
Frigates
Submarines


So for example for Main Battle tanks category could be like:

Leopard 2A6/7 - Germany
T-14 Armata - Russia
.
.

For Fighter aircraft might be F-22 Raptor - USA etc...

 

[Jackdaws]

Isnt apache considered the best attack heli right now? Though they are pretty outdated, USA must be updating them constantly I think.

They have weapons in their arsenal we don't even know of.

 

[Zapper]

Ka-52 is considered better and there are other ones that are comparable also

Ka-52 isn't really battle proven to consider it being better than Apache. Despite Russian equipment being cheaper from a unit cost standpoint, they're maintenance heavy and running/lifecycle costs are high...not to mention the issues surrounding availability of spares

 

[Ardabas34]

USA is the house of the global capital. Their military gdp is bigger than the rest combined. It is normal that they are superior in a great many of systems.

Usually the systems they arent superior are things other superpowers leaned heavily on to compensate their gaps in other fields.

For example Russia is better at anti-air systems because they know they are way behind in fighter jets.

 

[500]

Main battle tank - Leopard 2A7 with Trophy APS.

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - MLRS

Armored Vehicles - Puma IFV, Boxer APC

Anti air vehicles - Iron Dome, Patriot PAC3 MSE, THAAD

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow

Attack aircraft - F-35

Fighter aircraft - F-22

Bombers - B2

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Virginia

 

[Nilgiri]

Main battle tank - Leopard 2A7 with Trophy APS.

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - MLRS

Armored Vehicles - Puma IFV, Boxer APC

Anti air vehicles - Iron Dome, Patriot PAC3 MSE, THAAD

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow

Attack aircraft - F-35

Fighter aircraft - F-22

Bombers - B2

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Virginia

Fair enough, but why the admiral gorskhov for frigate? Explain.
Speaking of which, I'd like to hear what @Anmdt has for some of his favourites, esp the naval stuff.

 

[500]

Fair enough, but why the admiral gorskhov for frigate? Explain.
Speaking of which, I'd like to hear what @Anmdt has for some of his favourites, esp the naval stuff.

Gorshkov has modern air defence (AESA radars + active homing missiles), long range cruise missiles (Kalibr) and supersonic antiship missiles (Onyx).

All that in relatively small displacement - 5400 t.

 

[Nilgiri]

Gorshkov has modern air defence (AESA radars + active homing missiles), long range cruise missiles (Kalibr) and supersonic antiship missiles (Onyx).

All that in relatively small displacement - 5400 t.

I guess one could consider it the strongest all-rounder.

 

[FiReFTW]

Main battle tank - Leopard 2A7 with Trophy APS.

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - MLRS

Armored Vehicles - Puma IFV, Boxer APC

Anti air vehicles - Iron Dome, Patriot PAC3 MSE, THAAD

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow

Attack aircraft - F-35

Fighter aircraft - F-22

Bombers - B2

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Virginia

Thats a pretty good list, but I have alot of doubts about anti air vehicles and rocket artillery.

Anti air vehicles I can't see how its not S-500, and rocket artillery I know that Russia and China both have some powerfull rocket artillery with a longer range than MLRS.

 

[500]

Thats a pretty good list, but I have alot of doubts about anti air vehicles and rocket artillery.

Anti air vehicles I can't see how its not S-500,

All we know about S-500 that it looks like old Soviet S-300V. No any information, no any tests.

and rocket artillery I know that Russia and China both have some powerfull rocket artillery with a longer range than MLRS.

Unlike Russian and Chinese monsters like Smerch, MLRS is very compact, very fast reloading, modular, with very good mobility. You can load 12 GMLRS ER rockets with 150 km range and pinpoint accuracy.

More over you can also fire from MLRS 300 km range ATAMS and soon 500 km + PRSM missiles.

 

[Anmdt]

Fair enough, but why the admiral gorskhov for frigate? Explain.
Speaking of which, I'd like to hear what @Anmdt has for some of his favourites, esp the naval stuff.

Here is my favorite "frigate" if it counts as a frigate:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444606928030773250

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444606928030773250

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1444607734121476098

Distributed mast and weapon systems maximizes survivability
Both missile and gun based CIWS (the latter is dual purpose) with DFRM
Good use of middle bay.

For the destroyer: Zumwalt
For the corvette: Either of Sa'ar or Visby class.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Main battle tank - Leopard 2A7 with Trophy APS.

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - MLRS

Armored Vehicles - Puma IFV, Boxer APC

Anti air vehicles - Iron Dome, Patriot PAC3 MSE, THAAD

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow

Attack aircraft - F-35

Fighter aircraft - F-22

Bombers - B2

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Virginia

@DANTE

 

[Nuclear]

All we know about S-500 that it looks like old Soviet S-300V. No any information, no any tests.

Unlike Russian and Chinese monsters like Smerch, MLRS is very compact, very fast reloading, modular, with very good mobility. You can load 12 GMLRS ER rockets with 150 km range and pinpoint accuracy.

More over you can also fire from MLRS 300 km range ATAMS and soon 500 km + PRSM missiles.

Bruh you have the s-500 image and you dont know if it was tested ?

 

[DANTE]

@DANTE

Main battle tank -T-14 Armata

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - PHL-16 / WS-2D

Armored Vehicles - T-15 Armata

Anti air vehicles - S-400 , Tor-M2 , Buk-M2 , Patriot , HQ-9B ...etc

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow / Ka-52

Attack aircraft - A-10 /su-25SM3

Fighter aircraft - F-22 / su-57 / su-35S / F-15EX

Bombers - B2 / Tu-160

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Project 885 yasen .

 

[500]

Bruh you have the s-500 image and you dont know if it was tested ?

All you see here is launch. Where is the interception?

Like here:

Or here:

 

[500]

Main battle tank -T-14 Armata

Self P. Artillery - Pzh 2000

Rocket Artillery - PHL-16 / WS-2D

Armored Vehicles - T-15 Armata

Anti air vehicles - S-400 , Tor-M2 , Buk-M2 , Patriot , HQ-9B ...etc

Attack Helicopters - Apache Longbow / Ka-52

Attack aircraft - A-10 /su-25SM3

Fighter aircraft - F-22 / su-57 / su-35S / F-15EX

Bombers - B2 / Tu-160

Aircraft Carriers - Gerald Ford

Cruisers/Destroyers - Arleigh Burke.

Frigates - Admiral Gorshkov

Submarines - Project 885 yasen .

Flying A-10 /su-25SM3 against capable enemy is nothing but suicide.
Tu-160 is nothing but platform for launching cruise missiles. It cant drop guided bombs, cant penetrate air defence.

 

[DANTE]

you talked about attack aircraft and the best attack aircrafts in service right now are the american A-10 and russian su-25SM3 , the tu-160 is a strategic bomber operated by the russian long range aviation so it's main mission is to strike targets that are far away to be reached by typical bombers or fighters , using the tu-160 or even the B-2 in order to drop guided bombs of no more than 50 km range is an overkill when any fighter/bomber can do it .

 

[500]

you talked about attack aircraft and the best attack aircrafts in service right now are the american A-10 and russian su-25SM3 ,

F-35 can detect tank using hi resolution SAR radar in any weather condition from high distance and then destroy it. Thanks to its stealth and sensors it can stay safe even heavy air defence environment.

the tu-160 is a strategic bomber operated by the russian long range aviation so it's main mission is to strike targets that are far away to be reached by typical bombers or fighters , using the tu-160 or even the B-2 in order to drop guided bombs of no more than 50 km range is an overkill when any fighter/bomber can do it .

B-2 can drop 16 2000 pound guided bombs anywhere in the world. Typical bomber fighter carries 2 such bombs and has only 1000 km radius.

Tu-160 is just a platform for cruise missiles. You can load them even on transport plane.

 

[Nuclear]

All you see here is launch. Where is the interception?

Like here:

Or here:

They Blured The Missile and you want them to show you the interception

 

[500]

They Blured The Missile and you want them to show you the interception

Thats why I said there is zero info on S-500 except it looks like old soviet S-300V.

BTW, Why US and Israel dont mind to show interceptions of their newest missiles? And where are videos of interceptions of ballistic missiles by S-300 and S-400?

 

[Nuclear]

Thats why I said there is zero info on S-500 except it looks like old soviet S-300V.

BTW, Why US and Israel dont mind to show interceptions of their newest missiles? And where are videos of interceptions of ballistic missiles by S-300 and S-400?

US - Israel They Make Their AD Together
And US has only thaad + Patriot no new AD

Russia Exported It First S400 IN 2014 To Algeria
And S400 Got in service in 2008
6 years Until it Got Exported

and now S-500 Will be exported after 10-15 Years

You Don't Want to Show everything in your Newest AD It's a national security

And No It's not an old S300V

Now With ballistic missile threats especially High-Hypersonic Missiles 20Mach +
Russia needs a missile that can shoot down any threat it Fighter jet - cruise missile / Hypersonic missile Without Making A Missile To each Threat

The Antey Missiles Have Higher Speed and Got Higher accuracy Than S-300 PMU2 When Dealing With ballistic missiles

And S-500 Missiles 100% Got A Thing That Makes them different Than Antey Missiles that's why they blurred it + The System is still in developing

Maybe It's will be ready by 2023-2024 And Enter Service in large numbers