Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1447173604886532103

 

[BBOn]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1447173604886532103

Dont say they will give us this type 23

 

[Lordimperator]

give us this type 23

Actually i dont mind it if they keep the SAM fully armed

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Dont say they will give us this type 23

And why they so insisted to visit and sign contract aboard Type 23 ?

Its a sales time, for make £ from unused stuff.

(FOR GOD DAMN SAKE, WE NEED THAT AND C 130 also)

 

[Chakrabirawa]

Dont say they will give us this type 23

Nah, I believe what he meant was the irony.
Bung Tomo was the motor of East Java youth resistance against British, during battle of Surabaya.
Now his 'legacy' is being used to escort British warship.
Heck even bung Tomo class were made in UK. If he knew, probably he would say "what a time to be alive"
Eh, what do i know

 

[BBOn]

And why they so insisted to visit and sign contract aboard Type 23 ?

Its a sales time, for make £ from unused stuff.

(FOR GOD DAMN SAKE, WE NEED THAT AND C 130 also)

No, better stick with new procurement vessels.

 

[Lordimperator]

No, better stick with new procurement vessels.

Ofcourse, its interim program aside from the new one. Like when the brit trying to sell their typ 31 to hellenic navy, they add the frigate as stop gap solution

 

[Madokafc]

Dont say they will give us this type 23

The fully armed Duke class still much better than our Martadinata class, sea keeping, ASW capability, operational range, air defense capability, and so on

No, better stick with new procurement vessels.

If you had time and money it is

 

[Van Kravchenko]

No, better stick with new procurement vessels.

Look like this one here didnt even swallow what the immediate need(interim program), FY defence budget, even MEF.

As @Madokafc said. Fully armed Type 23 still pack a punch compared to all existed IDNavy Frigates.

Yet you still insisted 6 years long process can be done tommorow morning. You should re check why FREMM deal with packed with 2 Maestrale class. Yes, for dire need of fregates.

 

[FPXAllen]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1447173604886532103

Well, it's probably safe to say that our navy's top brass have some cool sense of humor with a dash of irony.

Not that I'm againts it though. So, carry on!

 

[BBOn]

Well, it's probably safe to say that our navy's top brass have some cool sense of humor with a dash of irony.

Not that I'm againts it though. So, carry on!

Type 23 role is ASW but the engine sound it self already exposed far before it can detect a submarine.
But, yes. They have weird sense of humor regarding effectiveness and maintenance cost

 

[BBOn]

Look like this one here didnt even swallow what the immediate need(interim program), FY defence budget, even MEF.

As @Madokafc said. Fully armed Type 23 still pack a punch compared to all existed IDNavy Frigates.

Yet you still insisted 6 years long process can be done tommorow morning. You should re check why FREMM deal with packed with 2 Maestrale class. Yes, for dire need of fregates.

Well, no one from their side said will providing this vessel with full package.

And futher survey need to be done to know this vessel worthiness. After that we need to refit and update all necessary thing. After that trial and bla bla. Let say at least 1 year.

We will not get the harpon. Thats mean we need to look another anti ship missile, installation, test, bla bla and thats mean another delay.

 

[Madokafc]

Type 23 role is ASW but the engine sound it self already exposed far before it can detect a submarine.
But, yes. They have weird sense of humor regarding effectiveness and maintenance cost

Err

They are using CODLAG type propulsion and was very quiet at that, carry long towed array sonar, had sting ray equipped Merlin ASW.... and i stand by my opinion before this guy is very much capable in today Navy standard even compared to Martadinata class in ASW operation. The reason why Britain is trying to retire them early as they want to induct much more larger, more complex and expensive type 26 class

 

[BBOn]

Err

They are using CODLAG type propulsion and was very quiet at that, carry long towed array sonar, had sting ray equipped Merlin ASW.... and i stand by my opinion before this guy is very much capable in today Navy standard even compared to Martadinata class in ASW operation. The reason why Britain is trying to retire them early as they want to induct much more larger, more complex and expensive type 26 class

No matter how good your engine is, the old hull structure will never lie. It will expose not only the vibrations but the engine sound also. We want "spotter" not "spotted" and then join the spongebob

 

[Lordimperator]

No matter how good your engine is, the old hull structure will never lie

Atleast Type 23 is younger than Maestrale class

 

[Van Kravchenko]

"spotter"

"It claimed that two Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarines of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy were located by anti-submarine sonar operators aboard the HMS Kent and HMS Richmond frigates, (both type 23)"

Media report claiming UK carrier group spots PLA submarines ‘not credible’ - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Not enough proof for you? Lol, how in earth hunter hide from its prey.

Well, no one from their side said will providing this vessel with full package.

And futher survey need to be done to know this vessel worthiness. After that we need to refit and update all necessary thing. After that trial and bla bla. Let say at least 1 year.

We will not get the harpon. Thats mean we need to look another anti ship missile, installation, test, bla bla and thats mean another delay.

I think you didnt even know what i said before. As retire ship, if really want to sell Type 23 to , they need some adjustment to fuffil Navy spec. Same thing happend on Maestrale for .

1 year is considered quick for delivery and system installation compared to wait 2-3 years for FFBNW Hull, Yet the sea trials.

Even PAL 2 Vrygates need 69 months to complete and you still insist "B3tTaH St!CcK w1tH N3w Fessel". The incursion no need that long to push and pull in water. at desperate need of new boats, either for patrol or defence matter.

 

[Madokafc]

Well, no one from their side said will providing this vessel with full package.

And futher survey need to be done to know this vessel worthiness. After that we need to refit and update all necessary thing. After that trial and bla bla. Let say at least 1 year.

We will not get the harpon. Thats mean we need to look another anti ship missile, installation, test, bla bla and thats mean another delay.

Bla bla just stick with Parchim (more than forty years old) and Van Speijk (at least sixty years old) then until the next six to decade ahead when AH 140 and FREMM starting to get online and reach operational status, with the risk to be capsized and outgunned by the opponent. Even the Fatahillah class is already fifty years old now ....

 

[Parry Brima]

"It claimed that two Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarines of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Navy were located by anti-submarine sonar operators aboard the HMS Kent and HMS Richmond frigates, (both type 23)"

Media report claiming UK carrier group spots PLA submarines ‘not credible’ - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Not enough proof for you? Lol, how in earth hunter hide from its prey.

I think you didnt even know what i said before. As retire ship, if really want to sell Type 23 to , they need some adjustment to fuffil Navy spec. Same thing happend on Maestrale for .

1 year is considered quick for delivery and system installation compared to wait 2-3 years for FFBNW Hull, Yet the sea trials.

Even PAL 2 Vrygates need 69 months to complete and you still insist "B3tTaH St!CcK w1tH N3w Fessel". The incursion no need that long to push and pull in water. at desperate need of new boats, either for patrol or defence matter.

Bla bla just stick with Parchim (more than forty years old) and Van Speijk (at least sixty years old) then until the next six to decade ahead when AH 140 and FREMM starting to get online and reach operational status, with the risk to be capsized and outgunned by the opponent. Even the Fatahillah class is already fifty years old now ....

Don't worry, we got our very own naval weapon of mass destruction.

 

[Lordimperator]

Don't worry, we got our very own naval weapon of mass destruction.

View attachment 33465

"The Most advanced Stealth Weapon in the World that Could Make PLA Trembling in Fear Made in Banyuwangi"

 

[Madokafc]

Lahan Pangkalan Armada Zona Maritim Tengah di Gorontalo Utara Dikunjungi Bakamla RI​

13 Oktober 2021


Rencana Pangkalan Armada Zona Maritim Tengah berlokasi di Oluhuta, Kecamatan Atinggola, Gorontalo Utara (image : Google Maps)

INDUSTRY.co.id - Gorontalo- Tim survei lahan yang dipimpin Kepala Pangkalan Armada Serei Kolonel Bakamla Asep Budiman, meninjau lokasi lahan baru hibah dari Pemerintah Kabupaten (Pemkab) Gorontalo Utara (Gorut) di Desa Oluhuta, Jumat (8/10/2021).

“Lokasinya sangat strategis, terlindung dari pulau, aman dari cuaca ekstrim, terdapat jaringan listrik, komunikasi dan air bersih serta terdapat infrastruktur yang memadai,” kata Kolonel Bakamla Asep Budiman saat meninjau.

Dalam catatan Dispen TNI, sebelumnya, Bakamla menerima hibah lahan untuk Pangkalan Armada Zona Maritim Tengah berlokasi di Kecamatan Gentuma Raya. Namun setelah dilakukan pendalaman dari hasil survei lapangan beberapa waktu lalu, lokasinya dianggap tidak ideal sehingga dipindahkan ke Desa Oluhuta, Kecamatan Atinggola, Gorut.

Kehadiran Kolonel Bakamla Asep di lokasi didampingi tim teknis pengadaan lahan Pemkab Gorut serta perwakilan dari Kejaksaan Negeri Gorontalo.


Peninjauan Rencana Pangkalan Armada Zona Maritim Tengah berlokasi di Oluhuta, Kecamatan Atinggola, Gorontalo Utara (photo : Industry)

“Kita apresiasi dan mengucapkan terima kasih kepada Pemerintah Kabupaten Gorontalo Utara karena dukungan lahan yang dihibahkan kepada Bakamla sebagai Pangkalan baru nantinya,” ujar Kolonel Bakamla Asep.

Dengan keberadaan Pangkalan Armada di Desa Oluhuta, akan meningkatkan jangkauan dan cakupan wilayah operasional armada kapal patroli Bakamla dari yang berukuran kecil hingga berukuran besar.

“Lokasi yang strategis itu nantinya akan mengurangi waktu reaksi armada patroli dalam menanggapi kejadian di laut dalam wilayah Alur Laut Kepulauan Indonesia II (ALKI), terutama mengamankan daerah yang berbatasan langsung dengan negara Filipina yang rawan masuknya penyelundupan senjata api dan bahan peledak termasuk orang asing,” imbuhnya.

Diakhir peninjauan, Kolonel Bakamla Asep Budiman berkesempatan bertemu Bupati Gorut DR.H. Indra Yasin, S.H, M.H., di Kantor Bupati Gorut.

“Kami sebagai pemerintah daerah menyambut baik rencana pembangunan Pangkalan Armada Bakamla, karena hal ini demi keamanan laut kita khususnya Gorontalo Utara,” kata Bupati Gorut Indra Yasin dalam pertemuan tersebut.

Turut bersama dalam tim survei yakni Kepala Bidang Operasi Zona Maritim Tengah Kolonel Bakamla Tio Togap Pasaribu, Kepala Stasiun Pemantau Keamanan dan Keselamatan Laut Kema Letkol Bakamla Wahyuddin Makka serta Analis Kerjasama Zona Maritim Tengah Letkol Bakamla Ibnu Sina.

(Industry)