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[Elaser]

If i draw the line further from tb2 to Akinci and MIUS I will not be surprised if baykar makes MIUS 2 with 1 engine of TF-X and be of the size of F-16/F-35 in 2030. It will make TF-X redundant...

Sorry TAI but perhaps you will need to focus on helicopters and large aircraft...

 

[Nutuk]

The radar has a liquid cooling system. I do not think heating will be the problem but generating enough power.

The British develop an entire new engine setup for their 6th generation fighter just because this power generation is very important with all the electronics

But we do not know whether there is a power problem at the moment, maybe the eyed engines of Ivchenco provide enough already

 

[Ardabas34]

Integration of Aesa radar to an UCAV is no easy feat. These radars consume a lot of electric and produce a lot of heat to be removed. Some serious engineering problems.

It says the integration will be complete by the end of 2021 but the rest will happen in the following years. I am asking after the integration what is the hold up?

Is it like he doesnt include those problems you said to the process of integration of AESA?

 

[Lool]

UAE in talks to acquire shares from Baykar.

UAE: ADIA in talks with Turkey’s Baykar

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www.tacticalreport.com

If that happens its big fucking news and bad too imo. A country so openly hostile to Turkey should not be allowed anywhere near our defence companies.

Does acquiring shares entitle you to technology of Baykar?

 

[Nutuk]

Majority shares would probably

 

[Lool]

Majority shares would probably

certainly Baykar isnt dumb and wont give majority share to UAE
I mean even Qatar couldnt get a majority share in BMC and this is Qatar whom Turkey has super good relations with

 

[AWP]

Unpopular opinion;
If Bayraktar sells it's minority share at a a couple billion $ and invest sizeable chunk of that to R&D of Mius and next bigger Ucav after that, that would be net positive for Turkey and UAE can make profit out of this. But Tech transfer or any control shouldn't be on table.

if they want money to help with R&D then they should ask the state for loan or a payment in advance for MIUS . but to sell some of your company to a foreign country oh god that's ( f word ) disgusting . when it comes to money baykar is a like a jew , looking for cheap with no benefit to it's surrounding . If one day the west lift the sanctions on turkey , baykar will trash all the turkish manufactures and look for cheap foreign alternative .

and please don't compare BMC situation to baykar , a drone manufacture with a sophisticated technology that is going to be the future of warfare can't be compared with a vehicle manufacture that less develop countries do make . ( drone matter more than a armor vehicle )

 

[Sinan]

It says the integration will be complete by the end of 2021 but the rest will happen in the following years. I am asking after the integration what is the hold up?

Is it like he doesnt include those problems you said to the process of integration of AESA?

Best to hear it from the master.

 

[neosinan]

if they want money to help with R&D then they should ask the state for loan or a payment in advance for MIUS . but to sell some of your company to a foreign country oh god that's ( f word ) disgusting . when it comes to money baykar is a like a jew , looking for cheap with no benefit to it's surrounding . If one day the west lift the sanctions on turkey , baykar will trash all the turkish manufactures and look for cheap foreign alternative .

and please don't compare BMC situation to baykar , a drone manufacture with a sophisticated technology that is going to be the future of warfare can't be compared with a vehicle manufacture that less develop countries do make . ( drone matter more than a armor vehicle )

Just like any other country, Turkey has limited budget and Any investment from local source would be choice among military projects. So Altay can be delay or what not.

Getir sold it's minority shares and invested into growth, Now they are worth 7.5b$. and their value is gonna hopefully suppresed any other Turkish company within a year, and it will be biggest European tech company.

IMHO, Selling minority stock without giving control is best way for military industry. This model gave BMC huge boost and they had very little to start from, Bayraktar can huge with tens of thousands engineer. Compare that to it's current trajectory with 1500 employee. Such deal shouldn't be dismissed without proper brain gymnastics.

 

[Elaser]

Yes it is very difficult to cool 5 kW of power in 12 meter long airplane flying hundreds of kilometers per hour at high altitude where temperature is -40. Akinci needs more than just small opening where cold air can get in at high speed.... Akinci needs a complete redesign to carry a radar. It is almost impossible for Baykar to accomplish this...

 

[Cabatli_TR]

• The UK is seriously interested in Turkish Armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. Now they have to decide.

• We offered them options. They are currently seriously considering these options.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449039713093013510

 

[Combat-Master]

• The UK is seriously interested in Turkish Armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicles. Now they have to decide.

• We offered them options. They are currently seriously considering these options.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449039713093013510

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1449034326532927492

 

[Elaser]

I want to see TB3 on Queen Elizabeth carrier

 

[Combat-Master]

Polish MOD - “Soon a delegation from Poland will go to Turkey again to purchase weapons systems and receive technological experience.”

 

[kimov]

Yes it is very difficult to cool 5 Kw of power in 12 meter long airplane flying hundreds of kilometers per hour at high altitude where temperature is -40. Akinci needs more than just small opening where cold air can get in at high speed.... Akinci needs a complete redesign to carry a radar. It is almost impossible for Baykar to accomplish this...

As a comparison, a $100 consumer grade computer CPU cools about 50W/cm2 with $20 heatsink and a tiny fan in a 5kg case, while a 5kW radar (500-2000cm2) would need 2-10W/cm2 cooling in a 6 ton air-craft. It really does not sound like an impossible problem, specially since the radar is made out of high efficiency GaN with excellent thermal properties while the CPU is made out of silicon which stops working around 100C.

Even worst, you think someone capable of designing complex power-electronics and air-craft will not be able to design a cooling solution for mere 5kW?
Had you been talking about 1.21GW for a flying Delorean then I would have understood you but even fully passive cooling of power electronics operating +20kW is done all the time in cheap consumer products.

So no, it will not be impossible for Baykar or for any other air-craft which already have such radar to accomplish this.

Also, "12 meter long airplane flying hundreds of kilometers per hour at high altitude where temperature is -40" is a positive for cooling as you have large surface area and high air-flow of cold air.

 

[Elaser]

As a comparison, a $100 consumer grade computer CPU cools about 50W/cm2 with $20 heatsink and a tiny fan in a 5kg case, while a 5kW radar (500-2000cm2) would need 2-10W/cm2 cooling in a 6 ton air-craft. It really does not sound like an impossible problem, specially since the radar is made out of high efficiency GaN with excellent thermal properties while the CPU is made out of silicon which stops working around 100C.

Even worst, you think someone capable of designing complex power-electronics and air-craft will not be able to design a cooling solution for mere 5kW?
Had you been talking about 1.21GW for a flying Delorean then I would have understood you but even fully passive cooling of power electronics operating +20kW is done all the time in cheap consumer products.

So no, it will not be impossible for Baykar or for any other air-craft which already have such radar to accomplish this.

Also, "12 meter long airplane flying hundreds of kilometers per hour at high altitude where temperature is -40" is a positive for cooling as you have large surface area and high air-flow of cold air.

I was sarcastic but thank you for your nice explanation to all the doubters...

 

[kimov]

I was sarcastic but thank you for your nice explanation to all the doubters...

You are welcome.

 

[TheInsider]

The radar has a liquid cooling system. I do not think heating will be the problem but generating enough power.

The British develop an entire new engine setup for their 6th generation fighter just because this power generation is very important with all the electronics

But we do not know whether there is a power problem at the moment, maybe the eyed engines of Ivchenco provide enough already

Neither heat nor energy will be a problem. Brits try to mount a laser and high-powered microwave on that bird. Aselsan AESA for the Akıncı draws around 10-15kw of power at most. Even if we add all the gadgets I doubt total power consumption will pass 20-25kw. Akıncı is designed from scratch with the AESA radar in mind so cooling is no problem. On the other hand, mounting Aselsan AESA on the F-16 might be a challenge as liquid cooling has to fit on the F-16.

 

[Elaser]

He said that we needed to be a translator, that foreigners were taking over, and that I was a well-educated young man, and that I could act as an interpreter between them and foreigners. Here we have tried our best to destroy this mentality. There were times when we couldn't find a runway to fly or get permission to shoot ammunition, but with the support of the political will, we overcame these obstacles properly. We never gave up our fight.
All R&D activities carried out by Baykar since the first day are carried out entirely with its own resources. Since the day we were founded, we have not received any support in the form of a loan or a grant. We are currently making our investments with our own resources. We have export relations with more than 10 countries for our Bayraktar TB2 SİHA. For years, more than 70 percent of Baykar's revenues come from exports.

In fact, this year, we obtained more than 80 percent of our revenues from exports, with a slight increase.

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[yakusha]

I saw this fake news on Defencehub

UAE: ADIA in talks with Turkey’s Baykar

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www.tacticalreport.com

I officially asked Baykar and this thing is fake.