Will we get the same weapon package as India? Those bvr and lacmHmmm.... yup, Rafale is a done deal already.
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Will we get the same weapon package as India? Those bvr and lacmHmmm.... yup, Rafale is a done deal already.
Talk about "cocoklogi" with Lingua Franca:This news related to the Air Force is up to your guys own intrepetation
https://www.kemhan.go.id/2021/10/14/ifi-prancis-tawarkan-kerja-sama-pendidikan-bahasa.html
In my headThis news related to the Air Force is up to your guys own intrepetation
https://www.kemhan.go.id/2021/10/14/ifi-prancis-tawarkan-kerja-sama-pendidikan-bahasa.html
Taurus lacm? Hopefully ifx would be armed with that too.
It would be another great shame for us if we still withhold our share of payment after all the launch ceremony few months ago and now this.
Sigh...
Anyway, I have a mixed feelings about ADEX, especially since I was going to cover the event (but cancelled either due to SK's side still won't give quarantine exemption eventhough I'm fully vaccinated, or the organizer just doesn't want to bother with it):
On one hand, I'm a bit disappointed since I won't have a chance to dig some informations from SK's companies directly, but on the other hand, I'm also a bit relieved since even if I go there, they might look down on me due to my nationality especially with all the brouahaha surrounding our share of the KF-21.
they might look down on me due to my nationality especially with all the brouahaha surrounding our share of the KF-21.
Very expensive.Taurus lacm? Hopefully ifx would be armed with that too.
Hoo, wise choice. If we could restock harpoon it would be nice for upgunned our area denial capabilityVery expensive.
With that money wouldn't it be better to stockpile glide bombs instead ?
or even harpoons
Give him squid game jackets for uniform"I love Squid Game! Best series ever!!"
It would be another great shame for us if we still withhold our share of payment after all the launch ceremony few months ago and now this.
Sigh...
Anyway, I have a mixed feelings about ADEX, especially since I was going to cover the event (but cancelled either due to SK's side still won't give quarantine exemption eventhough I'm fully vaccinated, or the organizer just doesn't want to bother with it):
On one hand, I'm a bit disappointed since I won't have a chance to dig some informations from SK's companies directly, but on the other hand, I'm also a bit relieved since even if I go there, they might look down on me due to my nationality especially with all the brouahaha surrounding our share of the KF-21.
So it was basically a result of convoluted and mixed-up communication between ministries?I will give you information from the insider, just said you get it from source who told you this :
1. The reason the budget proposal is not yet approved because Finance Ministry and Planning Ministry always ask to have RATAS (Rapat Terbatas) first about KF21/IFX program continuation, because inside their mind RATAS in 2018 said the program is stopped (not continue), it is not true since Indonesian Aerospace engineers were still working in Korea until March 2020, and even they keep working on some design for tandem configuration and prototype manufacturing for some parts for prototype 1,2, and 6 after their come back and the works is being conducted in Bandung.
So they want to have another RATAS for KF21/IFX program continuation.
While the fact that RATAS 2018 never said about stopping the program, it is clearly said the program will continue but there will be renegotiation, so there is misunderstanding going on here, or they only want to create excuse, while President himself in principle has agreed to continue the program in late March after Prabowo came to President to ask the continuation ( this is another insider information )
Here is the news about RATAS 2018 :
"With the national economic conditions, the President decided not to cancel, but renegotiate or renegotiate."
Pemerintah Negosiasi Ulang Pengembangan Jet Tempur KFX/IFX dengan Korsel
Pengembangan ini dimulai Pemerintah Indonesia dan Republik Korea, 9 Maret 2009.Total pembiayaan proyek ini mencapai 8 miliar dollar AS.nasional.kompas.com
Then in 2019 President also has said he will continue the program :
Jakarta, Beritasatu.com - Coordinating Minister for Politics, Law, Defense and Security (Polhukam), Wiranto held important talks with Korea's National Defense Minister Jeong Kyeong-Doo at the Korean Ministry of National Defense office in Seoul, South Korea on Wednesday ( 6/3).
The meeting in the context of a high-level meeting discussed the continuation of the cooperation program for the development of KF-X / IF-X fighter aircraft.
During the meeting, Wiranto brought the message of Indonesian President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) who decided to continue the cooperation program for the development of KF-X / IF-X fighter jets. This decision was made by considering a strategic partnership between Indonesia and South Korea which had been going well and increasingly tightly.
"Although the Indonesian government is currently focusing on the construction of road, bridge, port and airport infrastructure which is a vital aspect for national economic growth and equitable development, the government considers the cooperation with South Korea to develop KF-X / IF-X fighter jets. "It is very important for the advancement of technology and national defense," Wiranto said through a press statement on Thursday (03/07/2019).
Wiranto: Indonesia Lanjutkan Pengembangan Jet Tempur KFX
Kerja sama pengembangan pesawat tempur KF-X/IF-X dengan Korea Selatan merupakan upaya dalam meningkatkan kualitas dan kemampuan SDM lndonesia.www.beritasatu.com
So we dont need another RATAS since the program is never stopped.
I will give you information from the insider, just said you get it from source who told you this :
1. The reason the budget proposal is not yet approved because Finance Ministry and Planning Ministry always ask to have RATAS (Rapat Terbatas) first about KF21/IFX program continuation, because inside their mind RATAS in 2018 said the program is stopped (not continue), it is not true since Indonesian Aerospace engineers were still working in Korea until March 2020, and even they keep working on some design for tandem configuration and prototype manufacturing for some parts for prototype 1,2, and 6 after their come back and the works is being conducted in Bandung.
So they want to have another RATAS for KF21/IFX program continuation.
While the fact that RATAS 2018 never said about stopping the program, it is clearly said the program will continue but there will be renegotiation, so there is misunderstanding going on here, or they only want to create excuse, while President himself in principle has agreed to continue the program in late March after Prabowo came to President to ask the continuation ( this is another insider information )
Here is the news about RATAS 2018 :
"With the national economic conditions, the President decided not to cancel, but renegotiate or renegotiate."
Pemerintah Negosiasi Ulang Pengembangan Jet Tempur KFX/IFX dengan Korsel
Pengembangan ini dimulai Pemerintah Indonesia dan Republik Korea, 9 Maret 2009.Total pembiayaan proyek ini mencapai 8 miliar dollar AS.nasional.kompas.com
Then in 2019 President also has said he will continue the program :
Jakarta, Beritasatu.com - Coordinating Minister for Politics, Law, Defense and Security (Polhukam), Wiranto held important talks with Korea's National Defense Minister Jeong Kyeong-Doo at the Korean Ministry of National Defense office in Seoul, South Korea on Wednesday ( 6/3).
The meeting in the context of a high-level meeting discussed the continuation of the cooperation program for the development of KF-X / IF-X fighter aircraft.
During the meeting, Wiranto brought the message of Indonesian President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) who decided to continue the cooperation program for the development of KF-X / IF-X fighter jets. This decision was made by considering a strategic partnership between Indonesia and South Korea which had been going well and increasingly tightly.
"Although the Indonesian government is currently focusing on the construction of road, bridge, port and airport infrastructure which is a vital aspect for national economic growth and equitable development, the government considers the cooperation with South Korea to develop KF-X / IF-X fighter jets. "It is very important for the advancement of technology and national defense," Wiranto said through a press statement on Thursday (03/07/2019).
Wiranto: Indonesia Lanjutkan Pengembangan Jet Tempur KFX
Kerja sama pengembangan pesawat tempur KF-X/IF-X dengan Korea Selatan merupakan upaya dalam meningkatkan kualitas dan kemampuan SDM lndonesia.www.beritasatu.com
So we dont need another RATAS since the program is never stopped.
@pasingsingan
There's no way both MoF and MoP are going against the president and withhold the payment. If they do it means they have been instructed by the president.