TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

 

[Cabatli_TR]

"When our known-unknown projects are finished, Turkey will be in the champions league."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481551596232314883

 

[Combat-Master]

"When our known-unknown projects are finished, Turkey will be in the champions league."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481551596232314883

To be in the champions league, we must have hypersonic missiles. I hope he is referring to that as an unmentioned project

 

[Cabatli_TR]

To be in the champions league, we must have hypersonic missiles. I hope he is referring to that as an unmentioned project

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May 2021, Gürcan OKUMUŞ: "The level we have reached in the field of RamJet engines in a short time encourages us to become one of the few countries in the world in liquid fuel RamJet engine and ScramJet engine technologies."

"Our efforts to establish the infrastructure where we can perform RamJet engine tests and aerodynamic warm-up tests continue at full speed. When its installation is completed, the related infrastructure will be one of the largest in Europe.”

 

[Abdelaziz]

May 2021, Gürcan OKUMUŞ: "The level we have reached in the field of RamJet engines in a short time encourages us to become one of the few countries in the world in liquid fuel RamJet engine and ScramJet engine technologies."

"Our efforts to establish the infrastructure where we can perform RamJet engine tests and aerodynamic warm-up tests continue at full speed. When its installation is completed, the related infrastructure will be one of the largest in Europe.”

hypersonic missile tech is dangerous and i think they will keep the developments related to it secret till they reach its end hence many countries will try to hinder them

 

[Turko]

AFAIK We already have got hypersonic guided missile , obviously it is not a cruise missile. . İt was written that YILDIRIM missile would be active radar guided in order to engage ships UpTo 50km speed.

EDİT: it might be KASIRGA . İ don't remember .

 

[Yasar_TR]

AFAIK We already have got hypersonic guided missile , obviously it is not a cruise missile. . İt was written that YILDIRIM missile would be active radar guided in order to engage ships UpTo 50km speed.

EDİT: it might be KASIRGA . İ don't remember .

Our Bora missile reaches hypersonic speeds during it’s flight. It should have around 3.5-4.5 Mach speed at terminal stage depending on it’s weight after expending fuel.
In fact most + 2 ton ballistic missiles with ranges more than 250km can easily reach hypersonic speeds.
The main point is to fly and cruise at hypersonic speeds all the time; especially at terminal stage.
Ballistic missiles have a “ballistic” semi circular flight paths. They achieve hypersonic speeds on their way down, after they reach their apogee. Because of this fairly expected flight path they can be picked up by radars and traced.
A Hypersonic cruise missile will fly a non ballistic flight path and still achieve hypersonic speeds. That is what makes them so deadly.

PS Kasirga has around 4.2 Mach speed on the way down.

 

[Turko]

Our Bora missile reaches hypersonic speeds during it’s flight. It should have around 3.5-4.5 Mach speed at terminal stage depending on it’s weight after expending fuel.
In fact most + 2 ton ballistic missiles with ranges more than 250km can easily reach hypersonic speeds.
The main point is to fly and cruise at hypersonic speeds all the time; especially at terminal stage.
Ballistic missiles have a “ballistic” semi circular flight paths. They achieve hypersonic speeds on their way down, after they reach their apogee. Because of this fairly expected flight path they can be picked up by radars and traced.
A Hypersonic cruise missile will fly a non ballistic flight path and still achieve hypersonic speeds. That is what makes them so deadly.

PS Kasirga has around 4.2 Mach speed on the way down.

You have just explained very well terminal stage when the rocket is free falling at maximum range app 300km.

What if the rocket engaged onto ship at midcourse when its rocket engine still running? İmagine that the Bora engages on a ship at 100km range. İt would still have thrust in order to keep direct flight path. Could Bora keep direct flight path at least 50meters above to sea if it had decent canards and fins?

Kinda big and heavy SAM engaging on ship, Like penguin or Popeye Anti-ship missiles but huge. İ wonder if it would be still hypersonic.

NHK-1 | Missile Threat

The NHK-1 was a short-range, solid-fueled ballistic missile. It was reverse-engineered from the U.S. MIM-14 Nike Hercules, from which it derives its name.

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[Yasar_TR]

You have just explained very well terminal stage when the rocket is free falling at maximum range app 300km.

What if the rocket engaged onto ship at midcourse when its rocket engine still running? İmagine that the Bora engages on a ship at 100km range. İt would still have thrust in order to keep direct flight path. Could Bora keep direct flight path at least 50meters above to sea if it had decent canards and fins?

Kinda big and heavy SAM engaging on ship, Like penguin Anti-ship missile but huge. İ wonder if it would be still hypersonic.

If we can recap about missiles like Bora, Lora (Israel), Iskander (Russia) and BP12 derivatives (China) ; These are all quasi ballistic missiles (They behave like ballistic. But have a lower altitude flight paths) . They expend their fuel when they reach their apogee. So they start to lose speed. Then they start their dive from 40-60000m altitude towards earth. Because of rarified atmosphere and almost non existent air drag they reach hypersonic speeds under gravity. But after 15000m altitude when they start hitting denser air they start losing speed governed by terminal velocity principle.
If some fuel were to be kept at reserve like it is in a dual pulse rocket motor, then theoretically you could achieve hypersonic speeds at terminal stage.
These missiles are essentially of ballistic nature. They do not fly like a cruise missile. They go up then down. In fact the more acute the hitting angle the more effective they are and more difficult to intercept. The trick lies in the weight of the missile and it’s aerodynamic structure. The heavier and the more aerodynamic the missile is the less drag coefficient it will have. Hence faster terminal velocity. To make it more difficult to lock on to and intercept, Iskander missile, for example, does certain manoeuvres along it’s flight.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481351597531799555

Cracks me

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481351597531799555

Cracks me

He's been pulling Indian and Greek Twitter strings all week, now he's starting on Iran

 

[Hexciter]

Within the scope of the "Pedestal Mounted CİRİT Weapon System Project", which was launched with the aim of providing additional capabilities to the anti-tank divisions and capable of firing UMTAS and CİRİT missiles, the targets determined in the inspection and acceptance firings carried out in Konya/Karapınar were hit successfully.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1482066332011094018

 

[Bmx98]

Firing tests footage of Karaok emerged.
Units which i think should be equipped first:
Ökk
Deniz piyade(marines)
Hava indirme (paratroopers)
Komando units operating in libya/syria.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1484154813764018180

 

[Hexciter]

I didn’t like the black smoke at the initiation of main engine of “Karaok” missile

 

[Fighter_35]

I didn’t like the black smoke at the initiation of main engine of “Karaok” missile

That can be changed with ease ,only with changing used solid fuel type used.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

KaraOk ATGM

@Test7

 

[Test7]

 

[Yasar_TR]

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That looks like a top attack test. Against most modern tanks this is the best method of destroying them as it is the weakest point.
Being a fairly light and small missile, it may not have enough punch to pierce through heavy side and front armour of MBTs. But will be useful for medium tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles.

 

[Turko]

That looks like a top attack test. Against most modern tanks this is the best method of destroying them as it is the weakest point.
Being a fairly light and small missile, it may not have enough punch to pierce through heavy side and front armour of MBTs. But will be useful for medium tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles.

Comparing Javelin , yes Karaok seems more compact but it could still eliminate heavy a MBT with top attack, couldn't it ?

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Wait i think Karaok is not smaller than javelin.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Comparing Javelin , yes Karaok seems more compact but it could still eliminate heavy a MBT with top attack, couldn't it ?

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Wait i think Karaok is not smaller than javelin.

We don’t have enough on Karaok. But it is a Turkish Javelin missile. Both missiles have a range of 2500m. If memory serves I had read somewhere that Karaok can pierce through minimum, 500mm steel equivalent behind ERA. According to Javelin specs, it can pierce through 600mm behind ERA. So they are very similar. And very deadly in top attack form.
(Today’s modern MBTs like leo2a6 and newer versions, Altay is to have armour at sides and front with a thickness of near 1000+mm steel equivalent.)