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[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490394090940346378

Tunnelsystem of YPG/PKK

 

[Ryder]

@Akritas
How can you expect us to trust Israeli sources when Israel is literally allied to Greece and Cyprus against Turkey?

@Ryder


Lets not forget the root of Kurdish problem: The guy in your profile picture, Yavuz Sultan Selim.

Before him, Diyarbakir was a Turkmen land. I am from Diyarbakir from father side. Our grandfathers used to tell what their grandfathers and so on told them, all the villages surrounding the Tigris used to speak Turkmen. Then they all converted to Sunni and Kurdishness. Because Yavuz Sultan Selim allied with them against Turkmens.

@Barzani
It is YPG that ethnically cleansed Yazidis from Afrin because Afrin was a strategically important place for them, gate of a link to Mediterranian Sea. They had to Kurdify there. Turkeys only concern is to prevent a YPG state forming, why would Turkey want to change Yazidis in Afrin?

Yavuz Sultan Selim is a good man. Regardless i dont worship him he has his good and his bad but I do put him in high regard.

Cant blame him when the Turkmens fought for the Safavid empire and threatened the Ottoman Empire. Shah ismail caused the Kurdish exodus into Anatolia due to him butchering the Kurds because they were Sunni. Let me guess Yavuz Sultan Selim is the bad guy. Kurds also served Shah Ismail until he turned against him. Shah Ismail was a big time shia fanatic converted a Sunni Persia into a Shia Persia. Cant get more secratarian than that he also attacked his neighbours.

If Yavuz Sultan Selim is a big time Sunni fanatic he would have not invaded the Mamluks and surrounding Sunni lands like Syria and Egypt.

Yavuz Sultan Selim is also reviled figure among the Arabs due to him setting up Ottoman domination of the middle east also allowing the Turks to rule the Middle east for like 400 years. He also took their Caliphate and made Istanbul the capital of the caliphate. Caliphate was now dominated by Turks not Arabs. Thats why they made a propaganda tv series against him now the Arabs are accusing him of genocide all that bs.

Many men song from 50 cent applies to him.

 

[GoatsMilk]

akritas is still defending pkk not a big suprise from a greek

They lost everything to Turks so defending pkk is logical for them

They will lose more.

 

[GoatsMilk]

kurds at the polish border treated like animals.

Meanwhile Turkey over Syria alone took more kurds then the entire EU took refugees. Maybe Turks should learn from europe?

"POLAND READY TO DEFEND ITSELF"

What has Turkey achieved by allowing millions of middle easterners to enter its land?

 

[what]

Everyone is free to be a fan or not of refugees. But I will not tolerate labelling all refugees as criminals, rapists or worse. The same goes for any other ethnicity, language or country. Watch your language, because I will be watching this thread carefully now and act according to our rules.

 

[what]

So the ones raping our woman, stealing stuff, murdering Turks are not criminals? According to data most of the criminal cases are from Kurds or Syrians who came to turkey illegaly

Criminals are criminals. But you do throw everyone and everything into the same bucket, which is called racism.

Take the time off the forum to think about why labelling 3 million people (all of them) is not okay, and why calling a country pussy is neither.

 

[Huelague]

A greek talking about ethnic cleansing my parents are from Eskisehir and everybody in this city knows what the terrorist Greeks have done here.

Their crimes here make Isis look like the boy scouts.

Ethnic cleansing???

Tell me one country who host 6-7 million refugees since 10 years??!! We are by far the most humanity country!! Look at Israel. Look at Greece. Look at Arabic state. Than compare it with Türkiye. Even in our history. We were examplary for all states.

We dont need lecture from Greeks. Thanks.

 

[Akritas]

Ethnic cleansing???

Tell me one country who host 6-7 million refugees since 10 years??!! We are by far the most humanity country!! Look at Israel. Look at Greece. Look at Arabic state. Than compare it with Türkiye. Even in our history. We were examplary for all states.

We dont need lecture from Greeks. Thanks.

Other, the issue of the Turkish management of the Syrian refugees, and another the issue of the Turkish intervention in the Syrian territory.
I do not do the lecturer, I just put sources, facts and arguments.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Criminals are criminals. But you do throw everyone and everything into the same bucket, which is called racism.

Take the time off the forum to think about why labelling 3 million people (all of them) is not okay, and why calling a country pussy is neither.

With all due respect the guy was baited by a PKK supporter. He's watching a pkk supporter slander Turkey and insult the Turkish people but in that typical cowardly way they leave a door open to reasonably deny it. But the intent is clear.

The PKK supporter began with his pro pkk news and articles slandering Turkey as being behind isis. All Turks recognise this propaganda trick by PKK supporters. Since then every single one of his posts has been antagonistic towards Turkey.

Even accusing Turkey of ethnic cleansing on the yazidis.

Its quite natural that many Turks have become sick of the constant attacks. The Turks feed millions of their people, saved millions of their people. Its quite natural that certain reactions take place. Its not right, but the error was not to shut down the people accusing Turkey of ethnic cleansing while being the biggest refugee home and the second largest foreign aid donor on earth.

When it concerns 3rd nations like China this forum has been quick to shut posts down. When it concerns people shitting on Turkey, we see no rush to address it. Why is that?

Keep in mind these baseless and constant accusations of genocide against Turkey is another form of racism. These accusations are intended to slander Turkey and dehumanise the Turkish people, inculding your mother and father, your brothers and sisters as well as your children.

 

[Barzani]

You really have to be braindead to try and argue here that sending Syrians back to their OWN LAND is ethnic cleansing.

The only ethnic cleansing in Syria was done by Assas/Russia/Iran and ypg/US both have driven out millions of Sunni Arabs,Turkmen and Kurds as well as Christians. One has settled it with Shia Persians the other with pkk affiliated Kurds and Yazidis.

Repeating the same shit doesn’t make it true. For seven years now the pkk affiliated Kurds and it Western Masters have been reheating the same lie over and lie again that Turkey „annihilates“ specific ethnic groups yet no on party has been able to provide evidence for this claim for almost a decade now. Intel services of those countries have yet to provide verified reports about those claims.

Yet the same can’t be said for the targeted ethnic cleansing done by the ypg with the help of the US and other western countries to try and create a terror statelet run by a minority group that isn’t even Syrian.

If this project fails the pkk and its abomination ypg are both dead in the water and the western states with sizeable kurdish population, many of which are linked to the pkk, will have a huge terror problem on their hands as those groups will lash out against their masters and commit terror attacks in Europe. Mainly Germany, France and Nordic countries.
Why do you think the Swedes are gifting the ypg 250 million euros ? Out of the good of their heart? Don’t make me laugh!

Yezidi my ass. If you are affiliated with a terror org you can be what you want. Still gonna get a bomb dropped on your pathetic ass.

Seems you do not understand what I am talking about and keep directing this to the PKK, so I will leave it at that and not derail the thread.

I disagree, Europe has given and is giving a lot to millions of refugees and migrants, whom some countries can no longer absorb, and who themselves do not want to integrate socially into Europe.
And to clarify: I was and am against the so-called "Arab Spring", which failed because Arab societies could not incorporate the values of Western Civilization such as Liberal Democracy, Discrimination of Powers and especially Justice.
The US is the one that started it, which failed completely.

Europe took in a laughably small amount of refugees and paid Erdogan off to keep them all.

 

[Ryder]

Other, the issue of the Turkish management of the Syrian refugees, and another the issue of the Turkish intervention in the Syrian territory.
I do not do the lecturer, I just put sources, facts and arguments.

Facts

Dude you just posted lindsey snell

 

[Akritas]

Facts

Dude you just posted lindsey snell

Yes, also I posted BBC, Washington Post , Reuters, The Guardian, etc

 

[Ryder]

Yes, also I posted BBC, Washington Post , Reuters, The Guardian, etc

Western Media is so legit.

Here is a quote from Malcom X.

Modern media is just an extension of propaganda war.

 

[Akritas]

Europe took in a laughably small amount of refugees and paid Erdogan off to keep them all.

Based on data from UNHCR, at the end of 2020, all around the world there were:

• 26.4 million refugees
• 10% of all the world’s refugees were living in the EU at the end of 2020.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Western Media is so legit.

Here is a quote from Malcom X.

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Modern media is just an extension of propaganda war.

And if you look even further you will find that many of the major shareholders are the same across all companies. Thats why the same slogans are shared across all papers.

 

[Akritas]

Yes, there are issues with the international media, but to speak the Turks, the champions of journalists imprisonment, canal closures and social network, is simply tragic. Erdogan administration has arrested hundreds of journalists, closed or taken over dozens of media outlets, and prevented journalists and their families from traveling. Turkey accounts for one-third of all journalists imprisoned around the world.

 

[Ryder]

Yes, there are issues with the international media, but to speak the Turks, the champions of journalists imprisonment, canal closures and social network, is simply tragic. Erdogan administration has arrested hundreds of journalists, closed or taken over dozens of media outlets, and prevented journalists and their families from traveling. Turkey accounts for one-third of all journalists imprisoned around the world.

Any piece of shit journalist that supports terror groups. Deserve what they get.

 

[Akritas]

Any piece of shit journalist that supports terror groups. Deserve what they get.

This view is well known in authoritarian regimes, that is, anyone who is opposed to the regime is a terrorist.

 

[Ryder]

This view is well known in authoritarian regimes, that is, anyone who is opposed to the regime is a terrorist.

Because Greece loves supporting terrorist groups.

Answer this question if any journalist and academic started defending groups like aq or isis or whichever terrorist group is it even doing propaganda for them what would greece do?

 

[Anastasius]

And if you look even further you will find that many of the major shareholders are the same across all companies. Thats why the same slogans are shared across all papers.

That list is even smaller now. Viacom and CBS merged in 2019 and 21st Century Fox was bought by Disney in the same year. Time Warner is owned by AT&T, who also has shares in Comcast if I remember correctly.