TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

TheInsider

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
4,066
Solutions
1
Reactions
34 14,482
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Good news for the engine. It is good news that disagreements are resolved and a deal that satisfies both sides is finally achieved. But we should continue efforts for the national engine. TRMotor can still act as a design bureau and TEI&TAEC can get contracts to do the production.
 

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,247
Reactions
141 16,268
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Finally we have come to our senses.
It looks like TAEC (51% Kale-49%RR Partnership) company will produce the new engine for our TFX

1646832304140.jpeg
 

Lool

Experienced member
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,918
Reactions
13 5,030
Nation of residence
Albania
Nation of origin
Albania
Finally we have come to our senses.
It looks like TAEC (51% Kale-49%RR Partnership) company will produce the new engine for our TFX
Good
But what will happen to Tei and Tr motor
Will they be included or will they not be involved?
 

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,247
Reactions
141 16,268
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Good
But what will happen to Tei and Tr motor
Will they be included or will they not be involved?
Good question!
My guess is that Kale/RR partnership will outsource a lot of parts from TEI. TEI has a lot of work in hand already. They will still carry on developing the indigenous engine. But now without time pressure. They have. TF6000 to develop, militarise TS-1400, serial production of TS-1400, Turboprop version and the production of T-700 engines. Hurjet CAS version engine with around 20-22000lbf needs to be produced in house as well.
TR-Motor’s design work will not go to waste. They will probably still be part of this project.
 

Zafer

Experienced member
Messages
4,683
Reactions
7 7,389
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Good news for the engine. It is good news that disagreements are resolved and a deal that satisfies both sides is finally achieved. But we should continue efforts for the national engine. TRMotor can still act as a design bureau and TEI&TAEC can get contracts to do the production.
All options are open until the engine is made, I will go out and protest otherwise.
Americans made GE and PW compete for the F16 engine.
 

Anmdt

Experienced member
Naval Specialist
Professional
Messages
5,501
Solutions
2
Reactions
118 24,878
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Good question!
My guess is that Kale/RR partnership will outsource a lot of parts from TEI. TEI has a lot of work in hand already. They will still carry on developing the indigenous engine. But now without time pressure. They have. TF6000 to develop, militarise TS-1400, serial production of TS-1400, Turboprop version and the production of T-700 engines. Hurjet CAS version engine with around 20-22000lbf needs to be produced in house as well.
TS-1400, TS-3000 for Heavy Classes, TF-6000 and beyond, Turbo-prop(s). Ukrainian engines have never been a settled matter for the defense industry, even before than war conditions emerge. They were rather a solution for the initial batches, as a stop-gap (Just like it is in Atak-II, Gezgin, Akıncı is going to be same too i believe).

TRMotor also could act as a ToT Office, assuming batches of files and know-how will be transferred to them, they could interpret those both in language skills and give a hot-start for the other projects.

I was one of the rare people who have kept defending how RR is the most preferable and feasible solution for the national turbofan engines at that class of the fighters. It was very obvious SSB & MSB will settle with them instead of Ukrainians + TRMotor or TEI alone.
 
Last edited:

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,220
Reactions
31 8,007
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
Guys don't get your hopes up for the design you've seen here. They're obviously showcasing the older design with an updated camo paint :) We know how it might end up looking like. We've covered this issue multiple times. The design you see here, is from 2017. It's just like the mock-up which is 19 meters long. The purpose of this video I think is to keep the hype real. Whilst presenting some of TF-X's capabilities we've never seen animated before. The camo paint is also interesting. I wonder if it will stay...
 

TheInsider

Experienced member
Professional
Messages
4,066
Solutions
1
Reactions
34 14,482
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
I can confirm this is bullshit. The plan is to buy 250 TF-X until 2040, upgrade the F-16 fleet and buy MIUS and MISU. IMHO another 250 TF-X could be exported. After 2040 TurAF will probably acquire unmanned combat aircraft.
 

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,247
Reactions
141 16,268
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Since when have we had F35 planes, to arrest them with Tumosan Engine?
In below site there is more info on the subject. Apparently they have already delivered 60 units for the use of airforce.



1646930364931.jpeg
 

Abdelaziz

Contributor
Messages
491
Reactions
1 821
Nation of residence
England(UK)
Nation of origin
Lebanon
Since when have we had F35 planes, to arrest them with Tumosan Engine?
In below site there is more info on the subject. Apparently they have already delivered 60 units for the use of airforce.



View attachment 40813
Arrest systems arent used only with f35
Apart from this .. tumosan is really a step from entering different league .. when it start mass production of its engines and transmission
 

Saithan

Experienced member
Denmark Correspondent
Messages
8,632
Reactions
37 19,741
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Turkey
Just look at the picture at @Saithan ’s post. There is a f35 and the caption is about Tumosan arrester. It is probably a US produced arrester engine in the picture.
It’s really fishy tbh, I can’t imagine a defence magazine using wrong picture to write news. F35 in the background and an arrest system. Maybe the published version may point out the photo as being an example. But wouldn’t that arrest system installation not be too light ? In my head The kinetec energy and pull should be strong enough to tear it from its place
 

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,247
Reactions
141 16,268
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
It’s really fishy tbh, I can’t imagine a defence magazine using wrong picture to write news. F35 in the background and an arrest system. Maybe the published version may point out the photo as being an example. But wouldn’t that arrest system installation not be too light ? In my head The kinetec energy and pull should be strong enough to tear it from its place
Don’t underestimate the progressive application of braking force.
Safran’s mobile arresting system can handle jets travelling at 190knots.

1646937054805.jpeg


 
Last edited:

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom