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While I applaud the theme of this event, I can't help but wonder whether it will still revolves around combat aircraft acquisition from abroad, or will there anyone including among the top brass who will bring forward a plan to design and produce our own jet fighter after KF-21/IF-X.
While I applaud the theme of this event, I can't help but wonder whether it will still revolves around combat aircraft acquisition from abroad, or will there anyone including among the top brass who will bring forward a plan to design and produce our own jet fighter after KF-21/IF-X.
Since the event will be attended by US, Australian and French figures, if it's up to me, I'll bring that topic up.
What I meant was more like, if we bring forward the topic of developing our own indigenous fighter post-2030 in that seminar, those big shots (or so I assume) can inform their peers to prepare what kind of support that they can offer. I wouldn't even mind if we still 'stuck' with 4th gen single-engine design like F/A-50 or Hurjet, as long as it will be positioned to replace our F-16 by then.Team up with the Australian and Boeing to get their Ghost bat is not bad at all
Boeing F15EX as the nodes and bomb truck, lead a group of fighting drones, each of them carrying Amraam or Sidewinder and swarm the enemy fighter fleets. While getting those wedgetail as station nodes.... meanwhile the Rafale would act as escort and do some electronic warfare
I'm kind of missed the train on this. But who do you mean?Chengdu girl
BukoniI'm kind of missed the train on this. But who do you mean?
The person who suggested we buy J-20, C_nn__I'm kind of missed the train on this. But who do you mean?
Bukoni
The person who suggested we buy J-20, C_nn__
The one who jumped ship from being a cheerleader of Dassault then moved to be cheerleader for Chengdu.
What I meant was more like, if we bring forward the topic of developing our own indigenous fighter post-2030 in that seminar, those big shots (or so I assume) can inform their peers to prepare what kind of support that they can offer. I wouldn't even mind if we still 'stuck' with 4th gen single-engine design like F/A-50 or Hurjet, as long as it will be positioned to replace our F-16 by then.
In short, while some members here are still wishing for us to be allowed to buy F-35, there's a lot more to gain for us in the long run if we start to take our first step to develop our own indigenous fighter design sooner.
After all, who can really guarantee that in the next 20 years things won't go totally 180° on us? Such is the possible fate that we must always be prepared for given our foreign policy.
Buzzer in here or in other forum? I don't see anything like that here as far as I remember.remember those kremlin buzzer on facebook who said "dapet tot ngelap sama ngecat" ?
This put even more urgency in what I wrote earlier now, isn't it? Even if things remains as it were, there's still so much more to gain for us if we begin to change our mindset from just "buying" to "making".The next 20 years? Two month ago, we are taking it leisurely as If any great power had some sanity, but actually some does not have. If Taiwan conflict not breaking out before then or South and North Korean not started to fight over control of Korean peninsula, and not escalating further.... We can talk more about the far future
on some indonesia military facebook page.Buzzer in here or in other forum? I don't see anything like that here as far as I remember.
Yeah, as unfortunate as it will be - for me, at least.Well, let's just wait for the seminar to happen. If they didn't bring it up then safe to say at least TNI AU itself isn't interested.
This put even more urgency in what I wrote earlier now, isn't it? Even if things remains as it were, there's still so much more to gain for us if we begin to change our mindset from just "buying" to "making".
I never said that we should make "everything", you know?I would not argue we should better to making everything in Indonesia
And how it will be? If you're assuming that once we decide to build something, and that something will always be inferior to what we intend it to replace with, you really missed the whole point.But don't ever let such idea compromizing the soldier who fighting in the frontline.
Right. By keep buying everything from abroad, not even trying to start our own initiative in order to keep filling some pockets which would otherwise dried out if we start changing our mindset from "buyer" to "maker"?Get priority straight first.
I never said that we should make "everything", you know?
If you look back at what I wrote earlier, you can understand that this seminar, and other events similiar like it, can be used to announce our intention to develop our own stuff with assistance from abroad for the things that we still can't produce ourselves.
And how it will be? If you're assuming that once we decide to build something, and that something will always be inferior to what we intend it to replace with, you really missed the whole point.
In no way that I'm insinuating that our soldiers, pilots, sailors et al, must be equipped with everything domestically made even if they're inferior to imported ones. But assuming that we can't build quality defence products is just,...
Right. By keep buying everything from abroad, not even trying to start our own initiative in order to keep filling some pockets which would otherwise dried out if we start changing our mindset from "buyer" to "maker"?
That kind of 'priority', you mean?
Masih satu spesies kayaknya dengan kaum Urakan Uraaa uraaa yang suka nyepam dimana2.kremlin buzzer