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There is no point to go back and forth with these people, they have no shame. They will resort to any means . Simply question all the time when they say and ask for independent source. We going to play merry go around just like them. Naturally someone has to deny even the obvious ( though no such a thing with them) , that's the rules that they set , so we should play by that. Let's see how far it will go. What goes around comes around. The other thing with them that they like to flood you with so called arguments and also completely ignored difficult questions. This guy is payed troll
 

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There is no point to go back and forth with these people, they have no shame. They will resort to any means . Simply question all the time when they say and ask for independent source. We going to play merry go around just like them. Naturally someone has to deny even the obvious ( though no such a thing with them) , that's the rules that they set , so we should play by that. Let's see how far it will go. What goes around comes around. The other thing with them that they like to flood you with so called arguments and also completely ignored difficult questions. This guy is payed troll
There is no point in arguing with you, you are very subjective and unipolar, you cannot view the situation from different angles and you just turn a blind eye to the obvious things, your opinion is predetermined
 

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People didn't want to go so they are not held against their wish, your assumptions are well just your assumptions. Logically speaking for Azov it would be much easier without civilians , I know it from Sarajevo.
Yes, soldiers keep people in basements, many green corridors were opened until April 21 and the Azov fighters did not contribute to the exit of people, the conclusion is that they are holding them
 

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Strategist Putin Successfully Stops NATO's Eastward Expansion

The Finnish parliament voted in favor of joining NATO.
💪💪We are strong together

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Clarification on Finland and NATO.

In the Parliament of Finland last week there were debates about joining NATO. The desire to join the alliance was declared by 112 out of 200 members of parliament, the country's media reported on April 22 in the evening. Although on April 4 there were 95 applicants, that is, less than half.

That is, in fact, the majority is already formed.

According to preliminary data, the Finnish parliament will start discussing the possibility of joining NATO on Wednesday, April 27, and there are essentially no barriers to a successful vote!

I hurried a little with the title, I really want the orcs to quickly be surrounded by NATO from all sides.
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There is no point in arguing with you, you are very subjective and unipolar, you cannot view the situation from different angles and you just turn a blind eye to the obvious things, your opinion is predetermined
I don't give much of the opinions, I just ask for the proofs. Asking for the proofs is not an option, my only opinion here that you are lying and you can't prove otherwise by THE FACTS
 

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I don't give much of the opinions, I just ask for the proofs. Asking for the proofs is not an option
What evidence? You don't know Russian and can't study this video enough, in which you can clearly hear from these people that they want to get out of the basements as soon as possible. I don't need to translate or digest all the information for you. I expressed my opinion, and that's it. You're an adult enough person, you have your own opinion, and I don't want to argue with you
 

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Kremlin advisor Sergei Karaganov's two latest interviews provide an insightful window into how the Kremlin views the Ukraine war and Russia's future:

I will unpack his main conclusions in this thread /1

Karaganov justifies invading Ukraine as a pre-emptive war on two grounds

The first is that Ukraine has become like Nazi Germany in 1936-37

The second is that Ukraine was a "spearhead of NATO" /2

To explain why Russia invaded Ukraine even though NATO membership was unlikely, Karaganov strips all ethics way from Western foreign policy

He quips that if Russia and China were democracies, and the West was a monarchy, the West would attack "godless liberalism" /3


Karaganov develops this point further by saying that the West regretted not destroying Russia in the 1990s and was compensating now

He claims that Western isolation of Russia has created Russophobia unseen since Hitler's time /4

Karaganov compares Russophobia to historical European anti-Semitism

He argues that the COVID-19 pandemic distracted the West from its obsession with hating Russia, and that the end of the COVID-19 pandemic caused the West to start a war in Ukraine. The West is the aggressor /5

Karaganov then calls the freezing of Russian Central Bank assets "a bandit act directed at a nuclear superpower"

He predicts that the Russia-West conflict will move to a "whole new level" and says the lack of strategic vision and Western irresponsibility caused this /6

Karaganov makes it clear that the current crisis is much more dangerous than the Cold War

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Karaganov says the West had responsible politicians, which don't exist now /7

Karaganov argues that Russia is better positioned geopolitically now than in the Cold War as it has no Warsaw Pact satellites or a rival in China

Russia has close ties with both China and India, he predicts that the West will be the loser from the war in Ukraine /8

On Ukraine, Karaganov defends the use of the phrase "denazification"

He argues that Nazism isn't just about killing Jews, but its about supremacy and humiliation. Karaganov argues the U.S. is humiliating Russia by pushing Ukraine towards the West, hence Ukraine is Nazi /9

Karaganov foresees a scenario in which several Ukraines are created, so a partition where the east falls into Russia's hands and people's republics are created

He says annexing all of Ukraine is counter-productive and does not rule out Zelensky staying in power /10


Karaganov envisions the "denazification" of Ukraine could follow the trajectory of Germany after 1945 or Chechnya after the early 2000s

Ukraine will be friendlier than Russia after the war. Seems like a contradiction of his earlier denial of a complete takeover /11

Nevertheless, Karaganov argues that economics could pare back Russia's campaign in Ukraine

He says that Ukraine is impoverished and investments in Siberia or the Russian Far East are better. So expect no nation-building or reconstruction aid /12

Karaganov attributes Russia's isolation from Western information networks to its embrace of traditional values, including a rejection of homosexuality

Very much in line with the views of the Russian Orthodox Church and Putin's conservatism /13

Karaganov warns of a "horizontal and vertical escalation" with the West

So a disturbingly high likelihood of "terrible weapons" being used (WMDs presumably), he believes NATO isn't serious about Article 5 and predicts the war will spill over beyond Ukraine /14

Overall, Karaganov seems less maximalist on territory in Ukraine than most in the Kremlin, but his views on other issues align with the consensus

On domestic politics, he is a fierce critic of democracy and champion of Russia as authoritarian, which fits the current view /END

yes, Russia's NATO and NAZI propaganda crap is just that = crap......THEY are like the Nazis--they want $$$ and land--plain and simple
 

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I just recently learned that Mariupol tied up at least 12 Russian BTG (out of available 65). Shows just how built up urban settlements could halt and tie up significant manpower in the battlefield. The longer Mariupol holds the longer Ukraine's force in the East have a chance to defeat Russian forces.

Russia seems to intensify artillery attacks across the whole Donbass. It's now a test for the Ukrainian army and what knowledge they had gain from the 8 years war under Russian artillery shellings in Donbass.

My bet is they have prepared for this and Western planners has advised their leaders on how to minimize losses.

Also it looks like the Kiev front is closed indefinitely. The famous stolen air pod from Irpin is now located in Belgorod near Kharkiv. That means the Russian soldier who stole the air pod deployed previously in Kiev are already in preparation for the East offensive.
..I would hope the the US Kamikaze drones, etc would have an impact on the Russian Arty .....arty is not so much as armored up as tanks are.....doesn't take much to damage arty or the arty vehicles--yes?
 

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What evidence? You don't know Russian and can't study this video enough, in which you can clearly hear from these people that they want to get out of the basements as soon as possible. I don't need to translate or digest all the information for you. I expressed my opinion, and that's it. You're an adult enough person, you have your own opinion, and I don't want to argue with you
Everybody doesn't want to be in that situation, I personally experienced something similar, so your answer is pretty meaningless. I don't have intention to study Ukraine just to understand a clip. What I believe many others can see that people there are not threatened nor they are prisoners. Also by my own existence in Sarajevo I know that many people do nor want to leave because they can't trust people who are supposed to let them thru , as it is well known that Russians are the liars which they proved 2014 when they massacred Ukrainian troops despite their guarantees.
To add the same stories you have been telling about Srebrenica and it was proven as the war crime. Your same insidious propaganda was about Syria, Chechenia , Malaysian plane , Lybia etc. For far too long you were left to do what you do the best, lie. No more pal, no more. For far too long RT was left to spit the lies and you learned from that. No more pal, the game has changed. You will be stopping, exposed, hunted and defeated to the point of total humiliation. Count on that, no escape, believe me pal
 
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I hope its a self propelled one this time. Towed artillery like the M777s are great but survive less when you factor Russian counter artillery fire.
true, yes, true ...but it also depends on how they are used.....if they shoot and move, etc that can be effective ......and it depends on how effective the Russian counter arty , intel, recon, etc will be
.....and also, what about the training? the Ukrainians need training on these arty systems? are they familiar with them? I was a mortarman USMC....these are ''simple'' to operate--but take lots of training to be effective...so, arty takes more training
...when I was in, they did not have computers for FDC...now they do
 

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Everybody doesn't want to be in that situation, I personally experienced something similar, so your answer is pretty meaningless. I don't have intention to study Ukraine just to understand a clip. What I believe many others can see that people there are not threatened nor they are prisoners. Also by my own existence in Sarajevo I know that many people do nor want to leave because they can't trust people who are supposed to let them thru , as it is well known that Russians are the liars which they proved 2014 when they massacred Ukrainian troops despite their guarantees.
To add the same stories you have been telling about Srebrenica and it was proven as the war crime. Your same insidious propaganda was about Syria, Chechenia , Malaysian plane , Lybia etc. For far too long you were left to do what you do the best, lie. No more pal, no more. For far too long RT was left to spit the lies and you learned from that. No more pal, the game has changed. You will be stopping, exposed, hunted and defeated to the point of total humiliation. Count on that, no escape, believe me pal
You just don't know what you're talking about... in this video, people say they are waiting for the opening of the green corridor. You're arguing about something you don't know about. I am generally silent about 2014, about which you have the same wrong ideas
 

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Well, the same can be said to Ukrainian army. Both army are inexperienced in such large scale training and warfare.
usually, defense is easier than offense--so the Ukrainians have an advantage there ...the key is using combined arms together--even on ''defensive'' counterattacks
 

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Many times the green corridor has been opened to civilians in Mariupol, most recently on April 20. It seems that the soldiers of Azov are not in a hurry to release people
Last time a "corridor" was opened, Russian soldiers shelled the hell out of it. And then it turned out that the ones they were offering led straight to Russia. If you prefer to go to Poland or Romania? Tough luck, only Rossiya for you tovarish.

No wonder Ukrainians don't take you at your word anymore.
Do you even understand what the essence of the discussion is? The point is for people to come out of the basements and be able to live in human conditions. Yes, their homes are destroyed, yes, it's a tragedy. But we need to think about the urgent and solve this issue, and not rant about the destroyed Mariupol.
There is a very easy solution to that:

GET THE FUCK OUT OF UKRAINE AND STOP DESTROYING PEOPLE'S HOMES.
 

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Russia is slowly gaining ground and this is an inevitable fact
It seems that Ukraine cant switch from a defensive to an attacking mindset

With the current trend, Ukraine will probably lose all of its East and Souther front (apart from Odessa) and the Russians will just switch to a defensive position to wear Ukranians out. With all of Ukraine's defense industry infrastructure in shambles and with the fact that many Western countries are now starting to raise the red alerts due to depletion of their own ammo stock, Putin is set to gain a lot of territory by the end of the year or the beginning of the next year

Ukraine needs to be creative, IMO, if they want to win this war. Putin already got the massive domestic backing he needs by brainwashing his own ppl but the Ukranians may grow fed up in the long term

Ukraine also needs to know that the US main concern in this war is to not let Ukraine win but to deplete Russian forces and troops; from their own ammo, to their own domestic production, to their own troops by ensuring that most of those who are eligible to military service are being killed early on; thus, reducing Russia's threat by reducing its ability to spread internationally (due to lack of troops) and destroy any possible future alliance or deep co-operation between Russia and China by showing the world how Shit the Russians are.
The US literally got what it wants with Finland and Sweden joining NATO as a lovely bonus; moreover, it acted as a warning to Putin that any new invasion towards the West wont be favourable which will put a halt to Putin's ambitions to further engulf the West post-Ukraine
from Albania?? !
the US wants Ukraine to WIN!!
 

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This is the problem with many members in this forum tbh
You guys are too Optimistic tbh

So.... you guys believe that they are intentionally losing land to stretch the Russian supply lines? Bullshit! lets be honest, the Russians are stupid but they do learn

Cities, when lost, are difficult to retake as they are good defensive positions. When the Russians take them, they deport the children to Russia to be educated there and introduce the ruble as well as start mobilisation of the ppl against their own nation's army. You think that the Ukranian commanders are tactically retreating but I truly believe that the Russians are beginning to overpower them.
Just look at Kherson; sooner or later, they will hold a fake referundum to forcefully add kherson into Russia. At that moment, Putin will use the Nuclear weapons card to justify protecting Russian territory. By that point, I suspect most Western states to raise the white flag. The CIA isnt that dumb though; they know the result and are just using the process to weaken Russia for around 3 to 4 decades until they deal with China


Certainly, winning Ukraine wont be cheap for Russia as they will lose thousands of soldiers but Putin doesnt give a shit since he will replace them in 20 years by brainwashed Ukranian kids.... Period! I will say it again, the current situation serves none other than the USA as it gears up to face China.
The US knew that the FSB division responsible for Ukraine were a bunch of idiots and used that to try and weaken the Russia-China axis while the US organise their cards against China

Dont get me wrong, Iam on Ukraine's side since I believe that each country has its right to improve itself and shouldnt remain under poverty and corruption just because Putin cant fix his nation's chronic problem for over 2 decades. Putin is literally protecting his country by preserving the status quo which is..... If Russia is corrupt, then all surrounding nations must be even more corrupt to ensure Russia's superiority. This is one of Putin's modus operandi regarding the surrounding states


Moreover, Russia is slowly taking control of the weapons that gave Ukraine an edge. If such weapons were reverse engineered, then I will 100% say bye bye to Ukraine


Proof that the Russians are gradually understanding the importance of logistics


Not only me believes that this war is meant to weaken Russia


You see mate, politics is dirty and tbh... If I was the president of the US and I was gearing up for a fight against China, then the first thing I would do is to try to break China internally (which is impossible for now) and the second is to apply long term damage to its allies in order to hinder its movements


Summary:
The longer this war is, the more disadvantageous Ukraine's position becomes
China has the US over a barrel: we buy many critical items from China .....we have supply problems with them now--and it's not because China is not selling it to us---I know this for a fact
..US politicians screwed up long ago by not making America first --protecting American jobs...we have been getting screwed by a lot of countries
..Mr Trump was right AGAIN on this by trying to protect American jobs
 

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There is absolutely no indication that any of the people there are hostages. One of the kids even thanks the soldiers for bringing them food and supplies and it's pretty obvious she's not referring to the Russian army.

EDIT: Also the part where the kid talks about their parents and then stops and changes it to "relatives" because some of the kids clearly don't have living parents anymore was hard to watch.
 
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However, something doesn't add up. Since the Ukrainian army has suffered so few losses compared to Russia, why are the Russian Armed Forces in the offensive phase and gradually capturing lucrative villages? There are no counterattacks or offensive impulses from the Ukrainian side. Or do you think that Ukrainians cannot fight without NLAW and TB2 and are waiting for supplies?
in defense, you usually lose less .......
 

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