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times do change.....PS I hope turkey starts their own reliance of an engine company for drones than being reliant on Ukraine for the Akinci and MIUS drones like this.Try again next time maybe. Russia is known to deploy its most advanced hardware into Ukraine, and that include advanced MLRS
You could boast all intended use of any weapons (as u usually did), but As I and @Nilgiri pointed out earlier, Russia will struggle to deliver modern weapons system simply because this, or therefore lack of .
There were at least 35 U.S.-made chips found in the Kh-101 cruise missile, including those manufactured by Texas Instruments, Atmel Corp. Rochester Electronics, Cypress Semiconductor, Maxim Integrated, XILINX, Infineon Technologies, Intel, Onsemi, and Micron Technology.
When they opened up the turreted electro-optical system of the Ka-52 Alligator, Ukraine specialists found 22 U.S.-made chips and one Korean-made chip. The U.S. manufacturers included Texas Instruments, IDT, Altera USA, Burr-Brown, Analog Devices Inc., Micron Technology, Linear Technology and TE Connectivity.
Captured Russian Weapons Are Packed With U.S. Microchips
Ukraine intelligence showed us lists of mostly U.S.-made microchips it says were found on captured or destroyed Russian military equipment.www.thedrive.com
Most of these are out of reach for Russia for now. Without these, modern electronics can't work. That includes any modern Russian weapons.
As @noclador pointed out earlier, this is how HIMARS crew operate their fires.
and this is how its adversaries direct their fires.
microchips enabled the former to operate that way.
https://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/30/05/2022/6290e5e39a794746a563548c
The developer of Elbrus processors agrees with Mikron to transfer their production to Zelenograd. The factory in Taiwan became unavailable due to sanctions, but the level of technology development in Russia is much lower
The MCST company, which is the developer of the Russian Elbrus processors, is negotiating the possibility of transferring their production to the Russian Micron factory. This was told to RBC by a source and confirmed by Konstantin Trushkin, Deputy General Director for Marketing of the MCST. A representative of Mikron Group declined to comment.
Until now, Elbrus processors were manufactured at Taiwan's TSMC, which has the capacity to produce processors with a process technology from 90 nanometers (nm) to 5 nm. At the end of last year, TSMC announced the start of experimental production on the 3-nanometer process technology and is working on the 2 nm topology. However, after the start of a special military operation in Ukraine, TSMC stopped cooperation with Russian companies due to US sanctions. Due to restrictions, companies need to obtain a special license to export high-tech products that use American technologies to Russia. It is assumed that the US authorities will issue such a license only in exceptional cases. At the same time, processor manufacturers Intel and AMD refused to supply their products to Russia.
Processor manufacturer Qualcomm has stopped selling its products in Russia
According to the information on the official website of the MCST, the Elbrus line of processors includes chips in the topology starting from 130 nm, and the company's most advanced processor is manufactured using the 16 nm process technology. Users of these processors are primarily law enforcement and government agencies in Russia. As Konstantin Trushkin explained, speaking at the annual meeting of the Association of Software Developers (ARPP) "Domestic Software" in late April (RBC correspondent attended the event), "Micron" makes it possible to produce processors using 90 nm technology, in addition, there are various "difficult moments" that prevent the domestic factory from reaching full-fledged production. mass production. At the same time, Trushkin said that the MCST is considering two options for action in the face of sanctions: transfer the assembly of processors to Micron or create a separate company Elbrus, which will not be related to the MCST.
Now Trushkin explains that the sanctions have closed access to foreign factories for the MCST, so the company is considering switching to Russian facilities: "We see that domestic factories can create decent processors with sovereign Russian technologies for critical information infrastructure (this includes communication networks and information systems of government agencies, energy, financial, telecommunications and a number of others companies. — RBC), information security, and other markets. To achieve sufficient practical performance, we see a large reserve in processing the source code and optimizing the software for the Elbrus architecture. Whether the company will continue to produce processors using 45 nm or more advanced technologies, the representative of the MCST did not specify.
Not to be a smartass but China exists to
Still sad that you immediately went to talking about electronics than how those weapons being supplied to Ukraine would save their asses from Tornado systems
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Still sad that you immediately went to talking about electronics than how those weapons being supplied to Ukraine would save their asses from Tornado systems
I've actually explained this from post #13,189
But to keep this short.
Fire control
Uragan and Smerch have to be sighted optically... and in the case of the Uragan soldiers have to adjust elevation and deflection by turning wheels. Even Uragan's two outriggers have to be lowered and emplaced by muscle power.
Optical sights means that it takes the 10-12 minutes to measure and prepare a launch sites and sight a launchers.
Firing dumb rockets with optical sight also means that the Uragan and Smerch's accuracy is atrocious... i.e. when a Smerch fires its 12 rockets,
then the circular error probable (CEP) is 170 meter. This means only 50% of rockets fall within a 170 meter radius of the actual target... the other 50% will come down even further away than 170 meter from the target. Meanwhile US GLMRS missiles have a CEP of 5 meters.
Speed of reloading
it takes 20+ minutes to reload the Uragan (photo) and 40+ minutes to reload the Smerch VS 5 for the HIMARS
Choice of munitions.
M31 : 90km
ATACMS : 300km
9M528/9M55K : 90km
9М542 : 120km
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HIMARS not only could shoot further, more accurate and most important of all faster. This could prove decisive. Just a quick demonstration on what the HIMARS could do using its IFCS fire control system. Notice the speed for it to scoot after it shootand how fast it could reload
The question now is how will the Russian Tornado crew could save their asses from an M142 HIMARS battery ?
Ps: its 12 PM now, I need to sleep ....
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Today the Ukrainian Artillery continuing to shelling russian positions in Donetsk.
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Long read but it is worth it.........
russian agent spreading fake news as he work for Reuters.....
russian agent spreading fake news as he work for Reuters.....
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not really i dont know why your scared to compare those systems to tornado but soviet gear instead its like the results wont be to your liking or something?
"It should be noted that the above-mentioned American 227-mm guided missiles of the M30A1 GMLRS and M31A1 "Unitary" families, equipped only with INS and GPS guidance subsystems, are vulnerable to similar domestic ground-based electronic warfare systems (Zhitel and Diabazol).
Secondly, this is an order of magnitude higher accuracy, reflected in the coefficient of circular probable deviation (CEP), which for promising Tula shells will be about 1 m, while the CEP of URS 9M544 / 549 is only 7-15 m, which is due to the accuracy limitations of the GLONASS radio navigation system and 9B706.1 inertial navigation units."
ohhh so thats why you want to go talk about the smerch and uragan instead?
the reload time is 8 minutes for tornado http://www.military-today.com/artillery/9a52_4.htm
Choice of munitions.
M31 : 90km
ATACMS : 300km
9M528/9M55K : 90km
9М542 : 120km
choice of munitions
M31: http://www.fi-aeroweb.com/Defense/GMLRS.html#:~:text=It employs GPS/INS guidance,Capability (IOC) in 2006. " It employs GPS/INS guidance and has small canards on the rocket nose to improve accuracy. The M31 has a range of over 43.5 miles (70 km). The M31 rocket has demonstrated high effectiveness and low collateral damage while supporting troops in combat. The M31 achieved Initial Operational Capability (IOC) in 2006."
PRSM: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/precision-strike-missile.html 499kms
9М542: https://missilery.info/missile/smerch/5616 120km
9M544:https://www.armyrecognition.com/def...russian_tornado-s_mlrs_fires_new_missile.html 200kms
Iskander-M: https://expert.ru/2014/01/27/neulovimyij-raketnyij-mstitel/ That is, "Iskander" can destroy any object within a radius of 500 km with an accuracy of 2 meters and a probability close to 100%. Theoretically, launching a missile from Kaliningrad, you can "get" to the government quarter in Berlin, and the striking force of the blow can be easily increased by "hanging" a nuclear warhead on the missile.
Iskander-K: has a launcher that can carry 4
I have not gotten to land based Zircons or probably the 300km 300mm MRLS systems. gave the original picture assuming if you are interested in doing close zoom in screenshots for better translations of their MRLS network
but I guess it will go something like this
1. Use Iskanders to destroy ATACMs
2. Use your own MRLS that already outrange the M270 or for bonus purposes you can even use the Tornado-G to go lay 1000 antitanks mines from one volley not letting them escape without getting blowup 1st.
3. if your feeling a little genocidal
you can go screw with the Ukrainians from a far enough distance from where they planned on going using either anti-personal or tank mines.
"The heavy flamethrower systems TOS-1 and TOS-1A Buratino have proven themselves in the fight in Syria. A far more impressive weapon, however, is the new generation TOS-2 system, which can burn an area of up to 60,000 square feet." also with a 15km range.
in order for point 3 to work you have to be sure that point 1 and 2 are completed 1st and that the majority of civilians have been evacuated in order to mass annihilate fortifications, soldiers and armored vehicles. but for what reason your advertising the equipment anyways? I am assuming that your saying that if they got NATO equipment they wouldn't be having territory being taken away from them?
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russian do not care for russian
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russian soldiers are desperate and demotivated
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Mutinies among the russian troops
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Remember these college students, still alive, who have gone from boys to men, veterans
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TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
May 30, 15:55 (Updated 16:16)
Medvedev called Biden's decision not to supply Ukraine with missiles reaching the Russian Federation reasonable
Russia, in the event of an attack on its cities, would strike at the centers for making "criminal decisions", some of which are located "not at all in Kiev," said the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation
MOSCOW, May 30. /TASS/. Deputy Chairman of the Security Council (SC) of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev called it reasonable the decision of US President Joe Biden not to supply Ukraine with missile systems that reach Russian territory.
"Biden said the US will not supply Ukraine with missile systems capable of striking Russia. Wise!" - wrote the deputy head of the Security Council on Monday in his Telegram channel. https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/90
"Otherwise, when attacking our cities, the Russian Armed Forces would have fulfilled their threat and struck at the centers for making these criminal decisions," Medvedev added, pointing out that some of these centers "are not located in Kiev at all." "What's next, no need to explain," - concluded the deputy head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
Earlier, Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov expressed the hope that "common sense will prevail" and the United States will not send long-range missile weapons to Kiev. Prior to this, the New York Times reported that the White House allegedly decided to supply Ukraine with M31 GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System) installations, whose range of fire, depending on the ammunition, can reach 500 km. In addition, such installations can be equipped with guided missiles, the fire of which is corrected from satellites.
https://tass.ru/politika/14771149
I guess this is good info for @AlphaMike and me
May 30, 15:55 (Updated 16:16)
Medvedev called Biden's decision not to supply Ukraine with missiles reaching the Russian Federation reasonable
Russia, in the event of an attack on its cities, would strike at the centers for making "criminal decisions", some of which are located "not at all in Kiev," said the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation
MOSCOW, May 30. /TASS/. Deputy Chairman of the Security Council (SC) of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev called it reasonable the decision of US President Joe Biden not to supply Ukraine with missile systems that reach Russian territory.
"Biden said the US will not supply Ukraine with missile systems capable of striking Russia. Wise!" - wrote the deputy head of the Security Council on Monday in his Telegram channel. https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/90
"Otherwise, when attacking our cities, the Russian Armed Forces would have fulfilled their threat and struck at the centers for making these criminal decisions," Medvedev added, pointing out that some of these centers "are not located in Kiev at all." "What's next, no need to explain," - concluded the deputy head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
Earlier, Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov expressed the hope that "common sense will prevail" and the United States will not send long-range missile weapons to Kiev. Prior to this, the New York Times reported that the White House allegedly decided to supply Ukraine with M31 GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System) installations, whose range of fire, depending on the ammunition, can reach 500 km. In addition, such installations can be equipped with guided missiles, the fire of which is corrected from satellites.
https://tass.ru/politika/14771149
I guess this is good info for @AlphaMike and me
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Russia has almost used up its stock of Iskander missiles, so it rarely uses it in Ukraine. These missiles have proven to be inaccurate by destroying civilian objects.
