US Sanctions Helped China Supercharge Its Chipmaking Industry

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One day US will understand that sanctioning others never works in today's world, US has sanctioned China's defence industry and space industry for decades, waged trade war against China for years, now they are sanctioning China's chip industry, but the result all turned out to be exactly the opposite to what US wished for.
 

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One day US will understand that sanctioning others never works in today's world, US has sanctioned China's defence industry and space industry for decades, waged trade war against China for years, now they are sanctioning China's chip industry, but the result all turned out to be exactly the opposite to what US wished for.
Good to see both US-CN kill each other while VN export keep growing . No more happy honey moon like in 1979, eh ??:p
 

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Good to see both US-CN kill each other while VN export keep growing . No more happy honey moon like in 1979, eh ??:p
Did you check how much of Vietnam's industry and exports are actually deriving from Chinese investments/China-HK owned manufacturing plants?
 

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Good to see both US-CN kill each other while VN export keep growing . No more happy honey moon like in 1979, eh ??:p
China never wants to kill US, it's the US pulling out all the stops trying to kill China. US wants their global domination to last forever so it will try to kill whoever poses a threat to it.
 

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China never wants to kill US, it's the US pulling out all the stops trying to kill China. US wants their global domination to last forever so it will try to kill whoever poses a threat to it.
CN is just like Japan, German, S.Korea making money by bowing down and become US's slaves. So, no surprise when US want to subdue CN like what she did to JP,German.

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Did you check how much of Vietnam's industry and exports are actually deriving from Chinese investments/China-HK owned manufacturing plants?
Is that something special ?? CN's govt is worrying when more and more companies (including CN coapnies) quiting CN and move to VN.

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Chinese companies moving to Vietnam keep quiet on trade war to avoid wrath of authorities and staff​

He Huifeng
16 May 2019


  • Chinese companies moving to Vietnam keep quiet on trade war to avoid wrath of authorities and staff
Chinese state media may have launched a fierce propaganda campaign, placing the blame for the trade war squarely at the feet of the US government. But many manufacturers in China are keeping their heads below the parapet, for fear of reprisals from both inside and outside the country.
Interviews reveal that many factory owners and operators feel that they are caught in the middle of forceful rhetoric from both sides in the trade war. And rather than face direct retaliation from officials, workers and suppliers in their home market, they are deciding to keep their counsel.
Those companies that plan to move production out of China to avoid US tariffs and preserve their US business face a particularly delicate balancing act.

Manufacturing exporters that are thinking of relocating face more difficulties and higher costs than those that already moved out over the past two years, so many of them are not willing to speak out,” said Liu Kaiming, head of the Shenzhen-based Institute of Contemporary Observation, which monitors working conditions for hundreds of Chinese contract manufacturers.
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“To relocate, they have to handle very carefully the plans for lay-offs and compensation for workers, the reaction of suppliers, the problem of stock price fluctuations in large enterprises, and so on. They have to keep all this low profile,” he said.
“Once the news of a relocation is released, various rumours may crop up that are not favourable to the company,” Liu added. “Now that the trade war has escalated, the risks are even greater. Even though more and more manufacturing industries are affected, most of them are afraid to express their views in public.”
Some manufacturers had hoped that keeping a low profile would allow them to fly below the radar and thereby avoid further trade war tariffs.
“Last year, shoes were not on the last list of tariffs. We were very low-key and did not voice [an opinion] on any trade war topics, fearing that [US President Donald] Trump would realise and target our industry,” said a senior executive with one of China’s biggest original product manufacturing facilities, which makes shoes for several major brands.

“But what Trump is doing now is making everyone panic, especially the smaller firms,” Zhou added.

Companies are also fearful of growing hostility from local governments in China, should they announce their plans to relocate. Officials do not want to lose the tax revenue, nor the employment the factories bring to local communities.
 

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CN is just like Japan, German, S.Korea making money by bowing down and become US's slaves. So, no surprise when US want to subdue CN like what she did to JP,German.
Ha, if China were US slave, every country would be US slave and US doesn't have to go after China in all fronts, at in US eyes, China is not an US slave, China is a challenger, an US global domination terminator.
 

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Is that something special ?? CN's govt is worrying when more and more companies (including CN coapnies) quiting CN and move to VN.

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Chinese companies moving to Vietnam keep quiet on trade war to avoid wrath of authorities and staff​

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16 May 2019
Good for you, congrats!
 

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Is that something special ?? CN's govt is worrying when more and more companies (including CN coapnies) quiting CN and move to VN.
Yes, because whatever $ a country like Vietnam and so many others are making - a % of that flows into the pockets of Chinese held or JV companies.
And many Chinese companies are directly or indirectly held by China's state-asset companies.

So China has no problem with other countries enhancing their economy and life-standards - it is what the one road one world project is all about.
China has hugely progressed in terms of high-tech and high-quality products - and therefore other countries are getting a chance to further enhance the maufacturing of low cost articles.
 

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CN is just like Japan, German, S.Korea making money by bowing down and become US's slaves. So, no surprise when US want to subdue CN like what she did to JP,German.

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It's actually termed Asian politeness and respect towards others. China owns a lot to Nixon and other presidents of the USA - unfortunately self-inflicted major political errors and economic mistakes done by the USA themselves - have turned into a political election issue within the USA since 2004.

Instead of actually setting up a manufacturer oriented industry, the USA prefers that of a Dept ridden consumer oriented society. Not China's fault at all.
 

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Yes, because whatever $ a country like Vietnam and so many others are making - a % of that flows into the pockets of Chinese held or JV companies.
And many Chinese companies are directly or indirectly held by China's state-asset companies.

So China has no problem with other countries enhancing their economy and life-standards - it is what the one road one world project is all about.
China has hugely progressed in terms of high-tech and high-quality products - and therefore other countries are getting a chance to further enhance the maufacturing of low cost articles.
We Vietnam also don't see that make any problem cos we make money from assemblying CN's parts and export to EU-US. But EU-US see thats the big problem, so they will keep killing CN till CN become their salve like JP-SK.
 

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Instead of actually setting up a manufacturer oriented industry, the USA prefers that of a Dept ridden consumer oriented society. Not China's fault at all.
Cos US consider herself as the Boss of CN-JP-SK etc, so she refuse to set up a manufacturer oriented industry and other countries (CN-JP-SK etc) have to manufacture all products she need or else u guys ill get sanction.
 

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We Vietnam also don't see that make any problem cos we make money from assemblying CN's parts and export to EU-US. But EU-US see thats the big problem, so they will keep killing CN till CN become their salve like JP-SK.
I also worry about they are killing us with too much money

China-EU trade hits $205 bn in Q1 2022, China’s exports to EU up 21% year on year, imports down 6%



European Commission: Significant increase in EU imports from China

China exports to US jump, reaching all time high, contrary to press reports

 

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Cos US consider herself as the Boss of CN-JP-SK etc, so she refuse to set up a manufacturer oriented industry and other countries (CN-JP-SK etc) have to manufacture all products she need or else u guys ill get sanction.
Political pseudo ambitions and election gossip/promises is one thing. The real situation and factual economics is another issue.
US consider themselves as to world boss - not confined to simply Japan and Korea.
Since China's rise from 2000 onward, the USA has termed it as a fight/challenge as to who's political dogma will prevail - those of democratic countries or those of autocratic countries.
The truth however is: Even if China would be democratic - then the USA would have found some other excuse.
 

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I also worry about they are killing us with too much money

China-EU trade hits $205 bn in Q1 2022, China’s exports to EU up 21% year on year, imports down 6%



European Commission: Significant increase in EU imports from China

China exports to US jump, reaching all time high, contrary to press reports

Yeah, keep deluding yourselves while ordinary Cnese have to stop giving birth co they can't afford to buy houses and feed their kid due to US's sanction like N.Korea 😄

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Political pseudo ambitions and election gossip/promises is one thing. The real situation and factual economics is another issue.
US consider themselves as to world boss - not confined to simply Japan and Korea.
Since China's rise from 2000 onward, the USA has termed it as a fight/challenge as to who's political dogma will prevail - those of democratic countries or those of autocratic countries.
The truth however is: Even if China would be democratic - then the USA would have found some other excuse.
Thats true, Russia can be considerred as "democratic" nation and wanted to join NATO after SOviet collapse, but we all know that US still wanna treat Russia like slave cos she wanna be the World boss for good.

Thats why US will keep showing no mercy to CN till CN collapse like Soviet or surviving like Zombie like N.Korea :cool:
 

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Yeah, keep deluding yourselves while ordinary Cnese have to stop giving birth co they can't afford to buy houses and feed their kid due to US's sanction like N.Korea 😄

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Nothing to do with sanctions - but a common issue in developed/developing nations in reference to the preferred living style.
 

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Thats true, Russia can be considerred as "democratic" nation and wanted to join NATO after SOviet collapse, but we all know that US still wanna treat Russia like slave cos she wanna be the World boss for good.

Thats why US will keep showing no mercy to CN till CN collapse like Soviet or surviving like Zombie like N.Korea :cool:
If a country such as the USA can't control it's consumers attitude and those of it's industry captains - it's just political blah, blah - and the ones that actually suffer already or are about to suffer incl. the USA, are all those nations who fall for these political declarations, simply forwarded to hide the Hegemony goal's of the USA.

China hasn't changed it's political layout or program towards liberalization since 2022 - and yet, President Biden is now asking for loosening the sanctions.
I wonder why? - because he simply loves China? :D
 

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