Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[UkroTurk]

So who killed Alexander Dugins daughter?

His Mighty Orthodox God...

Dugin is evil in human body.

 

[TR_123456]

So who killed Alexander Dugins daughter?

In Russia only Russians.

 

[GoatsMilk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561117514955980800

I've read a few of Dugins books, he's an evil and sick man. In his books for example he calls for destabilising Turkey, for Russia to create constant economic and political shocks for Turkey, to support PKK terrorism and sepratism within Turkey. To instigate ideological frictions between secularist and islamist forces, to get the Turks to tear themselves apart to the benefit of Russia.

The Satanist Dugin who wished so much evil for so many peoples of the world, now gets to feel what his ambitions would cause for the rest of the world.

Here is dugin in england showing his devotion to satanism.

Most of the Russian elites are followers of the luciferin doctrine, another reason why Muslims shouldn't fall for Russian nonsense. Lets see if his Satan will bring him comfort in these dark days.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Dugin reminds me of Rasputin.

 

[Barry]

Hopefully soon he'll remind us all of kebab

 

[Woland]

Gaming sessions that Putin fears most:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561099462633656320

Unfortunately the A-10 would be mostly useless for Ukraine.

Edit: thank you @I_Love_F16 for liking my post, you're actually what we need.

 

[UkroTurk]

Hopefully soon he'll remind us all of kebab

He is the founder of Eurosian policy that covers Prorussian officers under Ergenekon shit.

Unfortunately currently they are ruling Türkiye . Fetö and Ergenekon are the same shit for our national independence. No difference.

Eurasianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For Russian interests they want us make war with Greece and USA.

They are the one boiling Greek conflict.

 

[Gary]

T-90M Provry 3

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558053082772250629

another attempted strike at Belbek in Crimea. Russian AD will be very busy for months to come

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1561443235507183616

 

[Barry]

He is the founder of Eurosian policy that covers Prorussian officers under Ergenekon shit.

Unfortunately currently they are ruling Türkiye . Fetö and Ergenekon are the same shit for our national independence. No difference.

Eurasianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For Russian interests they want us make war with Greece and USA.

They are the one boiling Greek conflict.

yeh my bro was telling me all this shit this guy has written in his books about destabilising Turkiye. Evil.

 

[Kathirz]

Unfortunately the A-10 would be mostly useless for Ukraine.

Edit: thank you @I_Love_F16 for liking my post, you're actually what we need.

Well I'm not an expert on jetfighters... but my knowledge understands that A-10 is a plane specialized on ground attack, so it shouldn't enter in battle without the proper measures, like being scorted by an air superiority jetfighter like F-16 and depleted enemy anti-aircraft defenses.

We have seen like an Aliexpress drone reached the headquarters of black sea fleet in Sebastopol under light guns fire. I don't want to exaggerate so much and fall into the jokes here, but I'm sure we will agree with the fact that A-10 will be an useful tool in Ukraine in the proper environment.

Bear in mind USA has around 250~ A-10's, they don't need, and Ukranians seem to have months of virtual training on F-16 and they are about to jump into the jets to continue with masterization process, so at least it will be an important message to the Kremlin about support and commitement with this fight.

Another nail in his grave that might not even make it into the game.

 

[UkroTurk]

Well I'm not an expert on jetfighters... but my knowledge understands that A-10 is a plane specialized on ground attack, so it shouldn't enter in battle without the proper measures, like being scorted by an air superiority jetfighter like F-16 and depleted enemy anti-aircraft defenses.

We have seen like an Aliexpress drone reached the headquarters of black sea fleet in Sebastopol under light guns fire. I don't want to exaggerate so much and fall into the jokes here, but I'm sure we will agree with the fact that A-10 will be an useful tool in Ukraine in the proper environment.

Bear in mind USA has around 250~ A-10's, they don't need, and Ukranians seem to have months of virtual training on F-16 and they are about to jump into the jets to continue with masterization process, so at least it will be an important message to the Kremlin about support and commitement with this fight.

Another nail in his grave that might not even make it into the game.

Ukraine already has got own A-10s : SU-25

Ukraine has enough Ground Attack aircrafts su-25 (App 23) and There is no significant difference between A-10 and Su-25.

Let's wait for F-16

 

[Nilgiri]

Well I'm not an expert on jetfighters... but my knowledge understands that A-10 is a plane specialized on ground attack, so it shouldn't enter in battle without the proper measures, like being scorted by an air superiority jetfighter like F-16 and depleted enemy anti-aircraft defenses.

We have seen like an Aliexpress drone reached the headquarters of black sea fleet in Sebastopol under light guns fire. I don't want to exaggerate so much and fall into the jokes here, but I'm sure we will agree with the fact that A-10 will be an useful tool in Ukraine in the proper environment.

Bear in mind USA has around 250~ A-10's, they don't need, and Ukranians seem to have months of virtual training on F-16 and they are about to jump into the jets to continue with masterization process, so at least it will be an important message to the Kremlin about support and commitement with this fight.

Another nail in his grave that might not even make it into the game.

A-10s were to deal with mass soviet tank formations optimally during the blitz of such war (before it turns nuclear if it did)....specifically how they would be channeled into a few corridors in German topography iirc.

Present situation in Ukraine is one where artillery and bunker nodes are what Russia relies on much more (in the slow attrition)....given their tank logistics (and logistics in general) are terrible given decades of under-investment since USSR collapsed.

A-10s wont add much to addressing this compared to other systems. Not a cost effective solution.

 

[Kathirz]

Answering to mates UkroTurk and Nilgiri. It's really interesting to know the idea behind the design of A-10, and please tell me if I'm wrong, but I disagree in the first point with comparing it with SU-25 as A-10 has much more wing surface for being able to do much more precise low passes at low speed over enemy hardware and being loaded with heavier weapons.

Also an A-10 fully loaded has 1350 rounds vs 250 in the SU-25, so it's capable of fire more than 5x times 30mm armor-piercing rounds in a trip.
Unfortunately we don't know how many operational SU-25 remains on UKR hands but being backed with the idea that USA can deliver more than 200 A-10 to UKR and give maintenance, should make an important dilemma change in the sky/ground.

I understand A-10 is a great ground attack plane so, bunkers, trenches and buildings should be pleasantly threatened by these planes when cost per hour is being paid by uncle Sam. We shouldn't forget the psichological effect of it's unique sound firing the 30mm gun.

Looking at the movements Russians did after ¿ATACMS? strikes on Crimea, moving their planes to mainland RF, it should induce, at least, to a degradation of RU capabilities over the battlefield so for me A-10 makes sense, and more when USA don't know what to do with them.

I'm sure many of us want to know the real performance of F-16 and A-10 over the battlefield, but please let me know what other capabilities or circunstances will make A-10 nearly useless on Ukraine!

 

[UkroTurk]

Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed two S-300 installations and again hit the Kakhovka bridge - HQ "South"

Over the past day, Ukrainian Army in the south destroyed two Russian S-300 launchers, a Giacint-S self-propelled gun and a Msta-S self-propelled howitzer.

According to preliminary data, the enemy army has decreased by 20 invaders. Also destroyed was a radar station for illumination and guidance, a mobile radar system for detecting aerodynamic and ballistic objects "Nebo-M", 2 towed mortars of 120 caliber, 3 units of armored vehicles.

Ukrainian aviation delivered two strikes on the strong point, the accumulation of manpower, weapons and equipment in the areas of Aleksandrovka and Burkhanovka.

In addition, it is noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine "adjusted the capacity of the Kakhovka bridge."

"As part of the performance of fire missions by rocket and artillery units, fire control has been strengthened and the capacity of the Kakhovka Bridge has been adjusted," the report says.

 

[UkroTurk]

There will be no more talks with Russia if prisoners are tried - Zelensky

Ukraine will not tolerate abuse of its heroes

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said that the trial of Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol would finally make any negotiations with Russia impossible.

He said this during his evening video message.

The head of state commented on reports in the media that the invaders are preparing scenery in occupied Mariupol for a "completely nasty and absurd trial" of Ukrainian prisoners of war defenders.

 

[UkroTurk]

Russia may arrange a provocation with a fire at the ZNPP - intelligence

It became known what kind of provocation the Russian Federation can prepare at the ZNPP

The invaders placed large volumes of automotive fuel throughout the power plant.

The Russian occupiers are probably preparing a provocation with a fire at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant. To do this, they placed a large amount of automotive fuel on the territory of the station.

Oleksandr Danilyuk, coordinator of the social movement "Spilna Right" announced this on Facebook, citing sources of Ukrainian intelligence at the ZNPP.

The preparation of a provocation is also indicated by other actions of the occupiers, except for the procurement of fuel reserves.

The situation at ZNPP: what is known
As UNIAN reported earlier, on August 11, President Volodymyr Zelensky said that there is confidence that the trajectory of cruise missiles with which Russia is firing at the territory of Ukraine does not accidentally lie over Ukrainian nuclear power plants. According to the head of state, Russia could provoke the largest radiation accident in history at the ZNPP.

In August, the Russian invaders fired several times at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, which they occupied.

Also, the occupiers have made a military warehouse at the ZNPP and hide heavy artillery between nuclear units.

 

[Nilgiri]

Answering to mates UkroTurk and Nilgiri. It's really interesting to know the idea behind the design of A-10, and please tell me if I'm wrong, but I disagree in the first point with comparing it with SU-25 as A-10 has much more wing surface for being able to do much more precise low passes at low speed over enemy hardware and being loaded with heavier weapons.

Also an A-10 fully loaded has 1350 rounds vs 250 in the SU-25, so it's capable of fire more than 5x times 30mm armor-piercing rounds in a trip.
Unfortunately we don't know how many operational SU-25 remains on UKR hands but being backed with the idea that USA can deliver more than 200 A-10 to UKR and give maintenance, should make an important dilemma change in the sky/ground.

I understand A-10 is a great ground attack plane so, bunkers, trenches and buildings should be pleasantly threatened by these planes when cost per hour is being paid by uncle Sam. We shouldn't forget the psichological effect of it's unique sound firing the 30mm gun.

Looking at the movements Russians did after ¿ATACMS? strikes on Crimea, moving their planes to mainland RF, it should induce, at least, to a degradation of RU capabilities over the battlefield so for me A-10 makes sense, and more when USA don't know what to do with them.

I'm sure many of us want to know the real performance of F-16 and A-10 over the battlefield, but please let me know what other capabilities or circunstances will make A-10 nearly useless on Ukraine!

You have to consider the full cost of the system and other contextual factors.

A) The time and cost of training of pilots (since I doubt a USAF mercenary system will/can be used given escalation dynamic) on completely new different system.

B) The significant infrastructure needed for maintenance, repair, overhaul and so on along with (new) armoury arsenal acquisition for again a novel air platform.

C) The cost imposed by patchwork of contested airspaces (rather than assured or air dominance that A-10 optimally operates underneath). Or reversely the cost needed to first acquire this air dominance with systems closer to the base of the pyramid (A-10 is really a privileged system closer to apex)

Then you need the target rich environment that makes A-10s worth it per flying hour and availability...and with relatively good airforce to protect them from opponents A2A.

This is why it makes more sense to extend and maximise the capacities of what Ukraine already has (like Mig 29 with HARM capability) or the frogfoots it has and so on.....(air wise)....given costs of developing a large UAF (Asset wise) this late in picture (all out war has already started and continues for half a year already).

.....or give them systems that do not need drawn out development of A,B and C and that are immediately and fairly cost-effectively optimised to taking out Russia's relevant systems in play (especially artillery) like HIMARs, TB2 and so on.....so that at some point Ukraine can achieve enough force concentration with its ground forces (and concert of continued NATO intel) to not only hold territory well but regain lost territory and at very least punitively punish Russian forces with highest precision and efficiency possible and lowest cost possible.

A-10 to me is just a completely different beast for different kind of war or context than what Russia has now transitioned to in Ukraine from its side.

It would have definitely made more sense to develop in the time the more pre-war situation had (from 2014 onwards), so that say ukrainian A-10s could have added to the carnage of russian armoured columns trying to make their way to Kiev and getting bogged down etc.

But that kind of window and theatre has passed and A-10s are low in priority to acquire now I would say (given their time and cost to develop and operate and secure well)....

....Russia has moved to a new format of war now with different targets addressed best by other immediate and now quite well proven solutions that Ukraine simply needs to acquire more of and keep integrating with their war plans and capacities.

 

[Lool]

He is the founder of Eurosian policy that covers Prorussian officers under Ergenekon shit.

Unfortunately currently they are ruling Türkiye . Fetö and Ergenekon are the same shit for our national independence. No difference.

Eurasianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For Russian interests they want us make war with Greece and USA.

They are the one boiling Greek conflict.

The Russians wants Turkey and Greece to enter war in order to break NATO apart internally while the Americans wants to keep a status quo in which both nations are weak and heavily dependent on USA to ensure none of such nations enter into a conflict.

Ever since the Turkish defence industry started to rise and the USA's plan is disrupted and the Russians are trying to use this as a chance to break NATO apart; just like how the Americans are using the current Ukrainian-Russian war to butcher as much Russian soldiers as possible and degrade their militRy

If Mavi Vatan is truly loved by the Turks, then do know that war with the Greeks is 100% inevitable; the only question is when and who will be more prepared.... period! This had nothing to do with FETO, Ergenekon or ruling parties etc.... In fact, FETO wants Peace with Greece, loool.

 

[UkroTurk]

You have to consider the full cost of the system and other contextual factors.

A) The time and cost of training of pilots (since I doubt a USAF mercenary system will/can be used given escalation dynamic) on completely new different system.

B) The significant infrastructure needed for maintenance, repair, overhaul and so on along with (new) armoury arsenal acquisition for again a novel air platform.

C) The cost imposed by patchwork of contested airspaces (rather than assured or air dominance that A-10 optimally operates underneath). Or reversely the cost needed to first acquire this air dominance with systems closer to the base of the pyramid (A-10 is really a privileged system closer to apex)

Then you need the target rich environment that makes A-10s worth it per flying hour and availability...and with relatively good airforce to protect them from opponents A2A.

This is why it makes more sense to extend and maximise the capacities of what Ukraine already has (like Mig 29 with HARM capability) or the frogfoots it has and so on.....(air wise)....given costs of developing a large UAF (Asset wise) this late in picture (all out war has already started and continues for half a year already).

.....or give them systems that do not need drawn out development of A,B and C and that are immediately and fairly cost-effectively optimised to taking out Russia's relevant systems in play (especially artillery) like HIMARs, TB2 and so on.....so that at some point Ukraine can achieve enough force concentration with its ground forces (and concert of continued NATO intel) to not only hold territory well but regain lost territory and at very least punitively punish Russian forces with highest precision and efficiency possible and lowest cost possible.

A-10 to me is just a completely different beast for different kind of war or context than what Russia has now transitioned to in Ukraine from its side.

It would have definitely made more sense to develop in the time the more pre-war situation had (from 2014 onwards), so that say ukrainian A-10s could have added to the carnage of russian armoured columns trying to make their way to Kiev and getting bogged down etc.

But that kind of window and theatre has passed and A-10s are low in priority to acquire now I would say (given their time and cost to develop and operate and secure well)....

....Russia has moved to a new format of war now with different targets addressed best by other immediate and now quite well proven solutions that Ukraine simply needs to acquire more of and keep integrating with their war plans and capacities.

A-10 purchase would be waste of human resources which is limited. How many pilots would need to be trained. İnstead of A-10 training, pilots could fly with F-16s.
Moreover Bayraktars complete the role of A-10.

 

[GoatsMilk]

In Dugins own books he basically promotes terrorism against Turkey, meanwhile when the clown went on TRT world he got promoted as somebody important and somebody the audience should respect.

There is no way on earth the editor at TRTworld didnt know what this guy is about, so the question is why are enemies of Turkey being given a platform. Why are the enemies of Turkey being promoted as our allies and friends?