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Sure there will be minor adjustments to inlet etc. when swapping engine. But an aircraft can be very well designed to have some engine room for alternatives (Kaan and Kizilelma are the examples)


With EF we have zero input and zero room to make any changes. We have to ask the consortium even to integrate our own missiles for hefty charges.

Bottom line the EF decision is not taken from technical considerations, it is purely political. (IMHO a very wrong decission)
 

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Sure there will be minor adjustments to inlet etc. when swapping engine. But an aircraft can be very well designed to have some engine room for alternatives (Kaan and Kizilelma are the examples)


With EF we have zero input and zero room to make any changes. We have to ask the consortium even to integrate our own missiles for hefty charges.

Bottom line the EF decision is not taken from technical considerations, it is purely political. (IMHO a very wrong decission)
We most likely have asked for our standard munition to be configurated into the EF already. So EF will be delivered capable of firing off our missiles. Even SOM since it was developed for F35 and they likely already have the information.
 

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Regarding weapons, the Embassy reaffirmed that Meteor is included and provided two strategic clarifications absent from industry responses. First, it stated: “Türkiye has made their intent clear. The UK will work with Türkiye to achieve the best possible outcome,” signalling political openness to the integration of Turkish air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. Second, it confirmed that Türkiye may export its sovereign systems to other Eurofighter nations, a policy position that could expand Türkiye’s industrial role beyond national use.

 

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@Nutuk bro, you are logically correct in your line of thought. But there are more variables here than a straightforward 2x2=4.

First of all, Hurjet as it is can never be anything more than a trainer. It may be used by some small country as a LCA. But for a country like Turkiye to even contemplate it as a light combat aircraft, especially to be used on a carrier is ludicrous. It would mean redrawing everyhing from scratch. You change the engine, you need to alter the airframe and aerodynamics. Slapping a different engine on it doesn’t make it a LCA. Besides what engine do you think they will use?
F414? EJ200? Well, according to your above claims they will also make us dependent on foreign producers.
Hurjet is designed primarily for training prospective pilots. It doesn’t have enough power, enough payload capacity, enough technology to even compare it with a F16, never mind an EF.

As per @Strong AI ’s above post, EFs are being purchased with access to their relevant source codes to allow us to integrate all our present and future munitions and missiles. Plus they are coming with a very large quantity of weapons package. By the time they are all here, we should have Gokbora and Gökhan ramjet powered a2a missiles to use on them too.

Do you think the airforce is not aware of what you are suggesting? They know it very well that whatever Tusas is promising is only good on paper. In reality things change. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. They know that Kaan has a lot of road to cover, before it becomes fully operational.

Bottom line is, the purchase of EF Typhoons is the correct decision.
By the way it is not a 4th generation plane. But a 4.5 generation one. In air superiority format it has one of the smallest RCSs around in its class. All missiles are carried in recessed pylons under it’s belly and wings.so as not to detract from it’s low observable delta wing structure.
With ECRSMK2 Aesa radar it has such powerful EW capability that it renders the aircraft to be near stealth fighter level. The large GaN/GaAs hybrid Aesa radar is so powerful that it can make adversaries’ radars ineffective by damaging their electronics. The plane we are buying may look like the first Typhoons in early 2000s. But airframe and aerodynamics of the plane together with its electronics and weapons have since evolved and the plane is to be usable post 2050s even 2060s.
 
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