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Will the gun and CIWS be Turkish?
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✓ Roketsan will develop and supply multi-layer air defense missiles of different configurations to Indonesia.
✓ These missiles will be medium and high altitude air defense missiles.
✓ The missiles will be used in a 'Layered Air Defense System' called "TriSula", specially developed for Indonesia.
✓✓ These air defense missiles to be developed will be different from the existing HİSAR-O, HİSAR-RF and SİPER Block I missiles.
✓ The missiles will be developed by Roketsan entirely based on the needs of the Indonesian Army.
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www.savunmasanayist.com
✓ These missiles will be medium and high altitude air defense missiles.
✓ The missiles will be used in a 'Layered Air Defense System' called "TriSula", specially developed for Indonesia.
✓✓ These air defense missiles to be developed will be different from the existing HİSAR-O, HİSAR-RF and SİPER Block I missiles.
✓ The missiles will be developed by Roketsan entirely based on the needs of the Indonesian Army.
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Roketsan’dan Endonezya’ya TriSula Hava Savunma Füzeleri, KHAN ve ATMACA İhracatı
Roketsan, Endonezya’ya; TriSula Orta/Yüksek İrtifa Hava Savunma Füzeleri, KHAN Topçu Füzesi ile ATMACA Gemisavar Füzesi ihracatı gerçekleştirdi.
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Probably, but there are no details as far as I know
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TAIS has signed the contract, not STM. So possibly, not MPAC but TAIS's FAC design.
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In such case STM would have signed the contract as the main contractor, not TAIS. STM works with anyone.
@TurDef is reporting LPC 65, however some sources are telling it as "FAC", but notation of FAC is a bit different for Indonesian Navy who calls KCR 60 as "FAC":
TAIS Constructs LPC for Indonesia
Turkish Private TAIS Shipyards will construct two Large Patrol Crafts, LPC-65, for the Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL). Even though it is named patrol craft, the vessel will feature a 76mm gun, a dual 35mm gun turret, two 12.7mm STAMP remote weapon stations (RWS), and a Roketsan ASW rocket launcher...
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Turkish Air Force Lieutenant General (Rtd.) Erdoğan Karakuş says the range of the Tayfun SRMB was 1,000km 25 years ago when he was serving & knew about the missile program. He added the Tayfun missile's is even much greater than 1,000km.
Is he credible? He talked about this a few years ago too.
Is he credible? He talked about this a few years ago too.
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No, he is not.
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Then why are we so late in space matters and satellite launches? Regardless of the missile, is it because of other systems?
Since 3 years he's talking about certain ballistic missiles that were not disclosed to date. Now we heard tayfun, cenk and tufan. He is a general. Give some credit to him, at least as much as you give it to twitter phenomena or forum members who are maybe dentist, student, human resources manager or steward..
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With announcement of Arat being a Turbofan, not a Turbojet, now it is safe to assume either Gezgin Block-I is in the inventory with a Turbojet engine of unknown origin or they have skipped the Block-I (or used this block for the prototypes) and move onto Block-II right away with 1400~km range.
There were rumours of already produced Gezgin's with Ivchenko engines. The Ukrainian officials of ivchenko also admitted to delivering a large number of TJ engines to Turkey
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He politically mentions 25 years, general or whatever. Türkiye had 1000km missiles since 25 years ago and played dead in geopolitics? Absolute nonsense.
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Not large quantities but something 10-20 if i recall correctly from the same news. Not sure how many of those were delivered.
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As far as I remember there were rumours about 12 engines.
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Correct. 12 AI-35 engines were supposed to be purchased for initial prototype quantities.
Gezgin Missile's Engine to Be Delivered to Turkey in 2021 - C4 Defence
New documents published on the ProZorro public platform show that Ivchenko-Progress purchased 200 parts for the AI-35 engine.
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they might use it on duration test as turbofan able to work longer for using less fuelCorrect. 12 AI-35 engines were supposed to be purchased for initial prototype quantities.
Gezgin Missile's Engine to Be Delivered to Turkey in 2021 - C4 Defence
New documents published on the ProZorro public platform show that Ivchenko-Progress purchased 200 parts for the AI-35 engine.
i think using todays world turbofan engine on a cruise missile will be reflected on radar easier than the turbojet engine for having less fan area to reflect radar waves, unless you develop 5th generation engine for that which nobody would as it should bea cost effective.
