That is one possible but clearly inclined point of view. Agree with the first point, only lightly with the second one. Europe does carry sins because of colonisation policy they carried out for big part of the last millenia, thus dividing people into better ones (colonisers) and not so good ones (the rest). Xenofobia is also a important aspect but hereby we are equal. People in any country tend to reject influence of foreign culture, it is natural instinct, applied on culture and race both.Not saying that your lists are wrong, but I refuse, the underlying reasons why Ukraine war is somewhat more important to the West is
1. It happens right at European doorsteps
2. The victim looks like you and shares your lifestyle and culture.
When early in the war, the world (means the West) were shocked at Russia finally doing it, many media were shocked to the fact that Ukraine, a civilized country were being invaded. I remember one TV station (iirc CN*C) pundit saying it this way :
" The Ukrainians aren't like anything out there,....they're civilized, they drove cars just like ours here..."
There are many examples of apathetic Western exceptionalism if you look closely, and most comes down to cultural and race.
I have been in Indonesia and being laughed over just because of my lighter skin. I do not take it as an example of racism rahter than surprise of youngster to meet person with other colour of skin. We are humans, we have flaws we must accept it as a part of reality and blame noone for that.
Agreed.So no Ukraine war is not a different phenomenon to any country out thee, just the size and complexity. And countries wishing to stay neutral are not to be blamed here.
Off course in the ideal world, I would like all UN participant to condemn Russia, but nothing is ideal in this world.
Well, as long as West is not to be blamed about everything regarding problems in international relations. You know, there are other countries too, trying to influence the situation.Which is an order created by the West, countries which is no winners/losers in this order has every right to stay neutral
In what way is Europe accountable for Muammar Gaddafi failed ruling experience, resulting the First Libyan Civil war? What it all has to do with "being democratic"?Yes, the word here is "must be democratic"... if not they deserve destruction the way Iraq or Libya does.
Being democratic by large means not being so agressive against neighbours. This is because people in general do not want to sacrify themselves in order to gain some extra political power. This is usually the ambition of their leaders and what the democracy (demos kratos in greek language, meaning peoples power) offers is stability. One cannot tell who is the next leader, but most certanly can tell what is the politics of this country after the elections. In case of authocratic countries one knows exactly who is going to be the next leader, but no one can tell what will be the political decisions in the future.
So the sign "democratic" means something like quality mark of country leadership. Yes, democracy has it's own flaws and America is the example of agressive foreign policy (Iraq case) and so forth . Democratic countries are interested of wellbeing of their citizens contrary of Russians, who are interested of richness of other nations. Who has given Ukrainians the right to live so well?!?? (this was the line written by Russian soldier in the wall of one occupied Ukrainian village). Why Russia is not using its wast natural resources to live as well, I want to ask? More importantly, why do you, Russians, let yourself to treat like that? Choose a good leadership for your country and soon you will live better, I promise.
Still, how Libya is relevant example in this context, I do not get it.
That is bad indeed, but at least we try. The man has to believe in something. As soon as one thinks about himself that killing is normal, then he enters into another moral dimension. If everybody kills, the only option is to kill others before they kill you, right?Sometimes, look close enough you can see similarity in the perception of that of China/Russia and the collective West when it comes to people around them. The only difference here is what is deemed precious for each side of the party.
Ah, precisely! Why should we care, if... And yet you do, but only from self-interest position. West must take all the blame, but me- I prefer not to, because my country is small and insignificant and nobody cares anyway... Hey, you have a word to say and responsibility to use it for benefit of others too.Geopolitical importance to West/Europe =/= geopolitical importance for the rest of the world. Ukraine might be a big deal for some countries national security, while for others, its just another war which we have no idea of.
Good for you. Enyoi the good weather and rich nature the geographical location has provided or you. The rest of us must struggle much more to keep the food on table. I was amazed to learn that Bali traditional calendar has 12 months but 5 weeks in a year. The end of year is moving because it does not matter much what time of year it is. One can grow a crop any time of year, try to do it in Estonia in winter. You will be starving until death quickly.Here in Indonesia, I still eat the way I eat.. rice is quite plenty, chilli is a little expensive...but we don't have a fear of food shortage anytime soon.
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