Featured China ships VT-5 light tanks to Bangladesh Army

[Isa Khan]

Well sooner or later we'll have to replace all Type 59s and 69s so doubt that we'll only see VT-5 in Cox's Bazar. India is also working on it's light tank project. I really wish BD could buy Type 10 from Japan instead of MBT-2000.

 

[Afif]

Well sooner or later we'll have to replace all Type 59s and 69s so doubt that we'll only see VT-5 in Cox's Bazar. India is also working on it's light tank project. I really wish BD could buy Type 12 from Japan instead of MBT-2000.

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Bro, I am not sure what you meant by type 12. You are probably implying type 10 if I am not mistaken, in that case it is bloody expensive. We couldn't afford it back then nor could we now, I think.

Anyway, first and foremost India is developing light tank for for it mountainous border with China to counter PLA.

Secondly, no offense but this map ( I saw it many times before and had the chance to talk about this topic with relevant people ) is out of date and doesn't mean that much. Any modern MBT could effectively operate on most of BD's landscape without seriously compromising tactical mobility or completely getting stuck ( specially those under 60 tons. For example, K2 or VT-4 or Lecrec ) as they have better weight distribution and much more superior power-pack.

You are right that, we are gonna have to replace our type59 and type69 tanks ( probably sometime after 2030 ) but there is no way ( I believe ) we are going to ditch MTB and replace them with light tanks.

I think most probably we will bring VT 4 to replace our relics. ( armed with 125mm smoothbore similar to type59 and type69 )

Or maybe if we are ambitious enough and our economy do good at that time, we may be able to afford a korean or Turkish or a japanese solution.

 

[Isa Khan]

Sorry for the typo. It's just a wish. If you can't buy Type 10 then you can't buy K2 ($18 million) or Lecrec ($17 million) either. Capability to purchase will depend on the economy. Maybe we can buy in small amount (1 regiment perhaps). Price, politics and training will be issues for choosing any tank. I think we'll stick to MBT-2000 and VT-5 for a while. I'll remain skeptical until I see any heavy tank like VT-4 in our camo. Yes, I know it's an old photo but this gives you a general idea. And it doesn't really mean Indian light tank can't be used here.

 

[PutinBro]

Sorry for the typo. It's just a wish. If you can't buy Type 10 then you can't buy K2 ($18 million) or Lecrec ($17 million) either. Capability to purchase will depend on the economy. Maybe we can buy in small amount (1 regiment perhaps). Price, politics and training will be issues for choosing any tank. I think we'll stick to MBT-2000 and VT-5 for a while. I'll remain skeptical until I see any heavy tank like VT-4 in our camo. Yes, I know it's an old photo but this gives you a general idea. And it doesn't really mean Indian light tank can't be used here.

Price of a K-2 base version is less than 6.5 million without APS.The newer versions developed for European and middle-eastern countries can cost 15-18 million each and are heavier.

K2 PIP for ROKA off course costs higher but I think the base version with Turkish APS be good enough for BD.

 

[Afif]

Price of a K-2 base version is less than 6.5 million without APS.The newer versions developed for European and middle-eastern countries can cost 15-18 million each and are heavier.

K2 PIP for ROKA off course costs higher but I think the base version with Turkish APS be good enough for BD.

Why are you guys citing new K2 price as 15-18 million.
Afaik I know it is around 11/12 millions.

 

[Afif]

Sorry for the typo. It's just a wish. If you can't buy Type 10 then you can't buy K2 ($18 million) or Lecrec ($17 million) either. Capability to purchase will depend on the economy. Maybe we can buy in small amount (1 regiment perhaps). Price, politics and training will be issues for choosing any tank. I think we'll stick to MBT-2000 and VT-5 for a while. I'll remain skeptical until I see any heavy tank like VT-4 in our camo. Yes, I know it's an old photo but this gives you a general idea. And it doesn't really mean Indian light tank can't be used here.

Bro, VT-4 cost around 5.5/6 million per unit.

Check out the Thai army's contract.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.defensenews.com/land/2017/04/04/thailand-to-buy-more-chinese-tanks-reportedly-for-58m/&ved=2ahUKEwiFhsbgoPT9AhXKUKQEHbn5BhYQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Rry5lxP873oMcdz4muuuS

So, I think it is affordable for us.

 

[PutinBro]

Why are you guys citing new K2 price as 15-18 million.
Afaik I know it is around 11/12 millions.

Which version?

 

[PutinBro]

I believe the best course of action will be to develop our own MBT according to our needs.BA in past has extensively upgraded it's MBTs.Looking at the durjoy, no matter how much the vehicle may suck but still its is miles ahead than a standard type 59.So the minimum infrastructure and expertise is already in place.

 

[Afif]

Which version?

With Korean APC and upgraded fire control system.

 

[PutinBro]

With Korean APC and upgraded fire control system.

K-2PIP is gonna have KAPS.I have already talked about that being expensive than the version ROKA uses.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Bro, VT-4 cost around 5.5/6 million per unit.

does it have CITV ?

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Sorry for the typo. It's just a wish. If you can't buy Type 10 then you can't buy K2 ($18 million) or Lecrec ($17 million) either. Capability to purchase will depend on the economy. Maybe we can buy in small amount (1 regiment perhaps). Price, politics and training will be issues for choosing any tank. I think we'll stick to MBT-2000 and VT-5 for a while. I'll remain skeptical until I see any heavy tank like VT-4 in our camo. Yes, I know it's an old photo but this gives you a general idea. And it doesn't really mean Indian light tank can't be used here.

we have already invested in procuring 125mm ammunition and logistics , we would have to re-invest money in 120mm ammunition and logistics.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Or maybe if we are ambitious enough and our economy do good at that time, we may be able to afford a korean or Turkish or a japanese solution.

As much as I believe in the Superiority of western tanks , we would have to change our existing infrastructure to accommodate these 60+ ton behemoths. Bridges , trucks , LCTs etc

 

[Afif]

As much as I believe in the Superiority of western tanks , we would have to change our existing infrastructure to accommodate these 60+ ton behemoths. Bridges , trucks , LCTs etc

You are right, I think we should change everything for good. ( gradually of course )
if not, for now VT 4 seems to be the most logical option.

 

[Afif]

CITV ?

What???

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

What???

Commanders Independent Thermal Viewer
A standard secondary thermal sight on almost all western Tanks but only found in a few Russian tanks
(one of the many reasons why Russian tanks s*ck)
The commander can scan for targets while the gunner is busy engaging another target.

 

[Gary]

As much as I believe in the Superiority of western tanks , we would have to change our existing infrastructure to accommodate these 60+ ton behemoths. Bridges , trucks , LCTs etc

Its not the tank...its the human behind it. You could have Abrams in your inventory..so does the Saudi's and Iraqi's. Did the Saudi's and Iraqi's become a top tier fighting force just because they operate Western tanks ?

Invest in your people not machine. Off course good machine is important but that's not the focus.

 

[Afif]

Commanders Independent Thermal Viewer
A standard secondary thermal sight on almost all western Tanks but only found in a few Russian tanks
(one of the many reasons why Russian tanks s*ck)
The commander can scan for targets while the gunner is busy engaging another target.

Hehe, if you just said commander's independent sight, it would have been easier.

Like VT 5, VT 4 also has commander's independent sight, as well as blow out panel. ( + APS )
As close as we can get to 'western tanks'

 

[PutinBro]

You are right, I think we should change everything for good. ( gradually of course )
if not, for now VT 4 seems to be the most logical option.

Change should happen now.Adding more 125mm mbts now will only complicate things.Army is currently focused on vt-5 and amphibious tanks and likely won't start looking for a new mbt anytime soon.

So if we want to switch to western mbt then this is the best time to do that.

 

[Isa Khan]

Like I said before most of our tanks with 125mm gun are Type-59s and they are old. Sooner or later we'll have to replace them. Also our LCTs can carry max 48-50 tons MBT. Since we already bought light tanks from China and trying to diverse our source from that country if army don't buy any new MBT-2000 in future then Type-10 could be an option. After what we saw happened to Russian tanks in Iraq and Ukraine (and other areas), modern tank is necessary besides human development. If a tank can't survive enough in fight what's the point of having skilled crew?