The flying prototype is TC ÖZB and then the one aboard TCG Anadolu is TC ÖZB 02. Is there another, besides the non functional model they also had early on?
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I wonder when we will see the first firing tests by Kızılelma.
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Kızılelma with the 2X TEI TF-10000 engine, Gökhan BVR missile, TRG-230-IHA ammunition, Çakır mini cruise missile -and maybe a derived and lighter version of ATMACA anti-ship missile (like TRG-230-IHA ) for Kızılelma and ANKA III- and TOYGUN EOTS will be very deadly, that's sure. It promises a lot in terms of air, land and sea attack capabilities.
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We don't know if KIZILELMA will use TEI engines. I don't remember any reference to TEI from BAYKAR except the PD170. They intend to use AI-322F from Ivchenko-Progress in more powerful KIZILELMA variants.
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Kızılelma will probably use AI-322F for the twin-engine variant in the prototypes and may be in the first batches.
But I can't see any reason for not using TEI's engine since it will be better in all aspects, especially as regards thermal characteristics.
For such a high-tech and (relatively) expensive bird that has (probably) RAM coating, internal bay and AESA radar Ukranian engines stay out of date since the smoke is seen even in the naked eye yet the thermal aspect of these engines is probably a bigger problem already.
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They would use it when it will be existed.
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This thing looks like it's been flying for decades. So smooth!
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Mr. Demir: "We will see together what will be revealed after Kizilelma/Anka3".
I remember reading that Baykar will focus on space after Kızılelma (they'll continue to develop and upgrade kızılelma tho) so i'm guessing we won't see Baykar revealing anything new anytime soon.
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A jet that takes off at 500 meters, even in the development phase. The wingspan is only 10 meters. Technically, this aircraft can take ground services in the entrance shop of any apartment building or in a barn in the villages, and can be taking off from a street with 2 lanes and a straight line on clean asphalt for about 800 meters. It will basically have the logistical advantages of being an unmanned drone, the equipment and fuel needed for the ground services involved can be transported, probably by 2 trucks. But the targeted capabilities of this drone intercepting or even screening directly to manned jets will be a huge leap that will connect these two worlds.
It is practically impossible to eliminate such a mobile system with a low logistic footprint from the theater of war. It could even be characterized as a reinterpretation of BAS90(and other similiar systematics related to this doctrine) system, which was one of the part that main doctrines of the Swedish air force for decades, with the technological possibilities of the 2020s. It will be, wait for it, legendary!
It is practically impossible to eliminate such a mobile system with a low logistic footprint from the theater of war. It could even be characterized as a reinterpretation of BAS90(and other similiar systematics related to this doctrine) system, which was one of the part that main doctrines of the Swedish air force for decades, with the technological possibilities of the 2020s. It will be, wait for it, legendary!
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Man, I hope those landing gears won't stay out in the open like that.
I know they wouldn't, but still
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I think it has an IWB cover width of around 160 cm by 350 cm. This means that it can easilly carry 4 BVRAAMs or 2 BVRAAMs and 2 medium-range cruise missiles in the internal compartment from the very first block.
