TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Yasar_TR]

2x10000lbf engined version of KE will probably be the pinnacle of our UCAV projects in this decade. With a dry thrust of 12000lbf in total, the engines should impart a capability to achieve supersonic flight without afterburners to the aircraft, as well as improving MTOW performance. Due to the high thrust level, take-off distance should be greatly shortened which is augmented by the delta wing construction in the first place anyway.
As a fighter plane it will have a similar dry thrust level of a GE-f414 powered Gripen E (16500kg MTOW), but with much lower MTOW. If it can be produced with modular and portable take-off/landing accessory components, we can use KE from short rural roads without the need for long expensive runways. Just like Gripen. Even better.
Against our opponents, not knowing where an air strike is coming from, will be an immense advantage on our behalf. It would also improve the effective range of the plane.
Added to all this, a stealth performance will further improve the lethality of the platform. There will be very little our enemies could do against this aircraft.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649702364868214786

 

[MADDOG]

Kızılelma and TB3 via Selçuk

 

[Boz]

HAPPENING

 

[MADDOG]

 

[MADDOG]

ANKA-3 might fly in the end of the month

 

[Rodeo]

HAPPENING​

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He says there are 15k employees of TAI. A healthy, growing company should have as many open positions as at least 10% of company's employee count. By this logic, TAI should have 1.500 job postings on its website or Linkedin. How many does TAI have? A mere 22. twenty-two! Do they have no hope of Turkiye's human capital that they hire only new-graduates and they don't even bother posting job openings? Why?

 

[Radko]

He says there are 15k employees of TAI. A healthy, growing company should have as many open positions as at least 10% of company's employee count. By this logic, TAI should have 1.500 job postings at its website or Linkedin. How many does TAI have? A mere 22. twenty-two! Do they have no hope of Turkiye's human capital that they hire only new-graduates and they don't even bother posting job openings? Why?

Most of its open positions are "recruits" from Bsc or Msc's

 

[Sanchez]

I like flying wings as much as the next guy, and of course as it's a scale model for national tv, displaying the payload outside makes sense for the laymen, but, what's the point of a flying wing that can carry 1500ks internally, if it will carry a AselPod(?) on the outside with two SOMs on the wings? It was the same with the prototype and Şimşek drones on the wings. External load takes away every advantage the flying wing configuration creates for low observability.

It's just weird how they're presenting it like this. Is LO by structural design not one of the design cues for Anka-3? I thought it was.

 

[Radko]

I like flying wings as much as the next guy, and of course as it's a scale model for national tv, displaying the payload outside makes sense for the laymen, but, what's the point of a flying wing that can carry 1500ks internally, if it will carry a AselPod(?) on the outside with two SOMs on the wings? It was the same with the prototype and Şimşek drones on the wings. External load takes away every advantage the flying wing configuration creates for low observability.

It's just weird how they're presenting this. Is LO by design not one of the design cues for Anka-3? I thought it would.

They are optional you know

 

[Rodeo]

Most of its open positions are "recruits" from Bsc or Msc's

Why? Baykar has only 3k employees and they have more than 170 job postings on their website.

 

[Sanchez]

They are optional you know

Yes, but you are still left with the rails when you release the munitions and you can't realistically jettison the EO pod. It's not a deep strike platform when it's in the beast mode as they call it but a bomb truck. I LOVE bomb trucks, but do we need a bomb truck flying wing? Maybe we'll learn more after the first flight.

 

[Radko]

Yes, but you are still left with the rails when you release the munitions and you can't realistically jettison the EO pod. It's not a deep strike platform when it's in the beast mode as they call it but a bomb truck.

I mean, F-22 and F-35 can also load a similar load. I expect that EO to be optional and that option being TOYGUN, not that spherical thing :d

 

[Radko]

Why? Baykar has only 3k employees and they have more than 170 job postings on their website.

I doubt that Baykar has cooperation with nearly every good university in Turkey tho

 

[Sanchez]

I expect that EO to be optional and that option being TOYGUN, not that spherical thing :d

That was kinda what i'm getting at tbh. We'll need hundreds of that thing, hope Aselsan can deliver.

 

[Radko]

That was kinda what i'm getting at tbh. We'll need hundreds of that thing, hope Aselsan can deliver.

They better use TOYGUN, Kızılelma+Anka-3 orders will reduce the costs for further production, thus reducing the price for further blocks and MMU

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

ANKA-III and SOM Cruise Missile demonstration

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1649878116070834177

 

[Rodeo]

I doubt that Baykar has cooperation with nearly every good university in Turkey tho

That's not a good way to run your business. What about the engineers with years of experience? How can you effectively utilize the engineering pool if you don't even have job openings for their profession?

 

[Radko]

That's not a good way to run your business. What about the engineers with years of experience? How can you effectively utilize the engineering pool if you don't even have job openings for their profession?

You are right about that ngl

 

[Sanchez]

They better use TOYGUN, Kızılelma+Anka-3 orders will reduce the costs for further production, thus reducing the price for further blocks and MMU

Agreed. What I'm really interested in is how much that thing will cost. From open sources, we know that an MX-15 cost nearly as much as a single TB2 and losing a TB2 was acceptable but losing the EO was the real loss for that write off.

One other thing to consider and going on a tangent here, From the attritability scale of how acceptable a loss of a drone is, where will Anka-3 sit, between TB2 and say Aksungur or Akıncı?

How many Anka-3s are we looking at for the air force? 10? 25? 50? Mind you, navy only operates about 6(?) Aksungurs currently. Akıncı for air force currently is also less than 10 I believe. Not every drone is a TB2 you can buy in hundreds.

So many questions, and being able get an answer for them some day is just so fun to me