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First they started to be liquidated in Syria, now Libya. Wagner PMC is over.

Basically the wagners who oppose being disarmed will either be forced to give it up and join the army or get wiped out.

Wagner's mutiny against Russia basically backfired.

Ukrainian war led to having heavy casualties which pissed of Prighozin because he wants his cutthroats to be looting diamonds rather than dying in some trench in Ukraine.

Wagner is given full reign in certain African countries becauae they are pretty ruthless and brutal.

Malians especially were pretty fine with Wagner going village to village to massacre their rival tribes.
 

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Basically the wagners who oppose being disarmed will either be forced to give it up and join the army or get wiped out.

Wagner's mutiny against Russia basically backfired.

Ukrainian war led to having heavy casualties which pissed of Prighozin because he wants his cutthroats to be looting diamonds rather than dying in some trench in Ukraine.

Wagner is given full reign in certain African countries becauae they are pretty ruthless and brutal.

Malians especially were pretty fine with Wagner going village to village to massacre their rival tribes.
This will turn into a Western W if we don't act up NOW
 

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Turns out Turkish cargo planes to Libya have been increasingly using NATO/Italian airspace while still skirting Greece for some time now, thought it was interesting.


I guess we really need those OPV vessels start sailing and supporting sea transportation more.

I think it's necessary to arm them with proper weapons to keep harrasment away.

Perhaps it's one reason we're being so quiet about things and not bickering, and just abiding our time.
 

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In the period 2016-2021, the construction of the external security perimeter has succeeded to an extent that no one would have given it a chance. We did not achieve results in all areas, there were many initiatives that failed, so maybe not perfectly ideally, but we made a lot of concrete progress within our power, with Libya and the Caucasus at the top of the list. Our soft underbelly is still Syria.

As far as I understand, we are now in a process of harmonization, that is, we are in a process of international acceptance of geopolitical gains. And without a direct threat to these gains, hard power will be avoided, and it must be hoped that the economy will get back on track in the meantime. Stretching without breaking. The real period when TR will spread its wings will be the 2030s, when it will become much more independent in many areas, but most importantly in defense and energy.
 

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In the period 2016-2021, the construction of the external security perimeter has succeeded to an extent that no one would have given it a chance. We did not achieve results in all areas, there were many initiatives that failed, so maybe not perfectly ideally, but we made a lot of concrete progress within our power, with Libya and the Caucasus at the top of the list. Our soft underbelly is still Syria.

As far as I understand, we are now in a process of harmonization, that is, we are in a process of international acceptance of geopolitical gains. And without a direct threat to these gains, hard power will be avoided, and it must be hoped that the economy will get back on track in the meantime. Stretching without breaking. The real period when TR will spread its wings will be the 2030s, when it will become much more independent in many areas, but most importantly in defense and energy.
It's not going to be that easy unfortunately. It's going to be a struggle and our enemies will pull any stunt to hinder and cripple us.

Our underbelly may be Syria, but we've already got cancer internally thanks to wrong political choices.

Only way to deal with it is harsh political internal control and no mercy for any dissidents.
 

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It's not going to be that easy unfortunately. It's going to be a struggle and our enemies will pull any stunt to hinder and cripple us.

Our underbelly may be Syria, but we've already got cancer internally thanks to wrong political choices.

Only way to deal with it is harsh political internal control and no mercy for any dissidents.
Local structures of a proxy nature will continue to be crushed, if they force an enmity. I am referring more to the power factors that pull the strings of the puppets. In the case of Libya, the alignment of our interests with Italy would be a very important achievement. Being able to share a common perspective with Algeria will be a very serious gain. There has already been great progress on these issues. The reconciliation with the UAE within a certain framework, the revitalization of relations with KSA and, as a result, the revival of high-level relations with Egypt will be important gains. In particular, detente with the Gulf countries can reduce the difficulty of the struggle on the ground. We have already gotten what we wanted to get on the ground, the remaining part of the work is the operation of democratic processes.

In Libya, we basically fought against French interests, but in practice, the financier of the illegitimate structure in the east was the UAE ( UAE also provided the Wagner group's logistics organization independent of Russia) and the political spokesperson was the Egyptian government.
 

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Local structures of a proxy nature will continue to be crushed, if they force an enmity. I am referring more to the power factors that pull the strings of the puppets. In the case of Libya, the alignment of our interests with Italy would be a very important achievement. Being able to share a common perspective with Algeria will be a very serious gain. There has already been great progress on these issues. The reconciliation with the UAE within a certain framework, the revitalization of relations with KSA and, as a result, the revival of high-level relations with Egypt will be important gains. In particular, detente with the Gulf countries can reduce the difficulty of the struggle on the ground. We have already gotten what we wanted to get on the ground, the remaining part of the work is the operation of democratic processes.

In Libya, we basically fought against French interests, but in practice, the financier of the illegitimate structure in the east was the UAE ( UAE also provided the Wagner group's logistics organization independent of Russia) and the political spokesperson was the Egyptian government.
But none of the countries you've mentioned perhaps with the exception of Algeria is reliable in that aspect. We may have some common interest, but the areas we're different is too big.

And someone we have is not so good at keeping his mouth shut, to the detriment of our national interests.

We don't have many chess pieces to move around, and every fuckup means our enemies make a few more moves that we can't counter.
 

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In the period 2016-2021, the construction of the external security perimeter has succeeded to an extent that no one would have given it a chance. We did not achieve results in all areas, there were many initiatives that failed, so maybe not perfectly ideally, but we made a lot of concrete progress within our power, with Libya and the Caucasus at the top of the list. Our soft underbelly is still Syria.

As far as I understand, we are now in a process of harmonization, that is, we are in a process of international acceptance of geopolitical gains. And without a direct threat to these gains, hard power will be avoided, and it must be hoped that the economy will get back on track in the meantime. Stretching without breaking. The real period when TR will spread its wings will be the 2030s, when it will become much more independent in many areas, but most importantly in defense and energy.
Uh huh. Meanwhile in reality, the west wing is laid bare where F-35s will be deployed in 2028. And 10+ millions of migrants may want to have a word with you. How many sleeper cells, fifth columnists, and agent provocateurs are in there, some foreign adversary could paypal 10 bucks to each of these 60 IQ fellows and they could destabilize this country on their own. By 2030 Turkey will not be far from Syria, culturally and economically.
 

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Uh huh. Meanwhile in reality, the west wing is laid bare where F-35s will be deployed in 2028. And 10+ millions of migrants may want to have a word with you. How many sleeper cells, fifth columnists, and agent provocateurs are in there, some foreign adversary could paypal 10 bucks to each of these 60 IQ fellows and they could destabilize this country on their own. By 2030 Turkey will not be far from Syria, culturally and economically.
1.Paypal is banned in this country.
2. Those 10+ million is in for a reason *wink wink* ;)
 

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1.Paypal is banned in this country.
2. Those 10+ million is in for a reason *wink wink* ;)
1. There are a plethora of other methods to transfer funds. And that only further approximates Turkey closer to Syria, since freelancers online can't bring in foreign currency and it solidifies the image of a rogue country internationally.
2. Mind elaborating on that reason? From what I've seen the 60 IQ chaps have brought nothing but their culture which consists of incompetency at the very best and outright violent crime, corruption and poverty at their worst. The border is still open, Erdogan said first hand they're not going to be repatriated and that the Turkish nation is willing to fork over another 40 billion USD if necessary.
 

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Mind elaborating on that reason? From what I've seen the 60 IQ chaps have brought nothing but their culture which consists of incompetency at the very best and outright violent crime, corruption and poverty at their worst. The border is still open, Erdogan said first hand they're not going to be repatriated and that the Turkish nation is willing to fork over another 40 billion USD if necessary.
Can't. The ground has ears y'know. But you could get a solid grip by studying Russian casualties in the Ukraine war.
 

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Those 10+ million is in for a reason *wink wink*

Those 10+ million of invaders were brought to destroy Turkiye from the inside. The people who are willing to destroy the country’s future for some obscure reason are straight megalomaniacs with mental illness who should be put in jail for life.
 

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